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Feb 16, 2021 12:11:49   #
Tiny Tim Loc: Forest of the Pacific Northwest
 
fuminous wrote:
I believe the image is depicted as upside-down... which doesn't matter for ID purposes, except for the middle ribbon- .....

Middle- Asiatic Pacific Campaign Medal - WWII- w/ 4 campaign stars- is ...... American Theater of Operations during World War II.


Thanks for the lengthy and informative explanation.

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Feb 16, 2021 12:25:05   #
Tiny Tim Loc: Forest of the Pacific Northwest
 
rv8striker wrote:
I did a quick google search and found that the middle one (there are three) is the Asiatic Pacific Campaign Medal with four bronze stars. The significance of the stars is explained in the link below. Quite and honor to get one Bronze Star let alone four of them. Your father was a war hero in my opinion.

https://www.thetelegraph.com/news/article/The-difference-between-a-Bronze-Star-and-a-Bronze-12657705.php

The first is WW II Victory Medal but the third I could not find. Good advice to seek information from a local American Legion Hall.
I did a quick google search and found that the mid... (show quote)


Thanks for your response. My father will always be a war hero to me, but I believe the four stars are bronze service stars and not the bronze star.

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Feb 16, 2021 12:27:23   #
Tiny Tim Loc: Forest of the Pacific Northwest
 
flip1948 wrote:
Appears to be correct. ......

Two more missions would have gotten him the Distinguished Flying Cross...or so he said.


Your father was quite a brave man.

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Feb 16, 2021 12:29:14   #
Tiny Tim Loc: Forest of the Pacific Northwest
 
dennis2146 wrote:
The Bronze Star Medal itself, for valor or meritorious service is not the same as the tiny bronze stars on this ribbon. Many of us have these tiny stars on ribbons to signify another like medal. But this ribbon does not look the same as a Bronze Star I am familiar with.

Dennis


I believe you're correct.

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Feb 16, 2021 12:31:01   #
Tiny Tim Loc: Forest of the Pacific Northwest
 
johngault007 wrote:
I'm still searching for the mystery ribbon on the right, because it is interesting to say the least.

As for the Asiatic Pacific Campaign Medal (middle), it was awarded to him five (5) times. Campaign medals are usually initially awarded for service within a theater of operations, which means embarked on a vessel, stationed on a land base, or XX flights in XX consecutive days within an area. Each subsequent for this award would be for specific operations within that theater.

You can find specific operations for the award here:
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ships/dafs/BattleStars.html#partIII

In order to find out which operations he was part of, you need a copy of his DD-214. If you do not have his DD-214, the National Archives is a good place to start, but probably not the only resource online these days:
https://www.archives.gov/research/military/ww2
I'm still searching for the mystery ribbon on the ... (show quote)


Thanks for the info and links.

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Feb 16, 2021 18:23:41   #
rv8striker Loc: St. Louis, MO area
 
Tiny Tim wrote:
Thanks for your response. My father will always be a war hero to me, but I believe the four stars are bronze service stars and not the bronze star.


You are correct, my mistake. He was a good sailor and you should be proud.

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Feb 16, 2021 18:36:50   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
Tiny Tim wrote:
Thanks for the info and links.


No problem

If you do get a hold of the DD-214 and need help deciphering it, just let me know.

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Feb 16, 2021 19:51:27   #
Tiny Tim Loc: Forest of the Pacific Northwest
 
johngault007 wrote:
No problem

If you do get a hold of the DD-214 and need help deciphering it, just let me know.


Thanks.

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Feb 17, 2021 09:39:31   #
Dannj
 
rv8striker wrote:
I did a quick google search and found that the middle one (there are three) is the Asiatic Pacific Campaign Medal with four bronze stars. The significance of the stars is explained in the link below. Quite and honor to get one Bronze Star let alone four of them. Your father was a war hero in my opinion.

https://www.thetelegraph.com/news/article/The-difference-between-a-Bronze-Star-and-a-Bronze-12657705.php

The first is WW II Victory Medal but the third I could not find. Good advice to seek information from a local American Legion Hall.
I did a quick google search and found that the mid... (show quote)


The stars on the APC Medal are service stars which indicate additional awards of the same medal. Although they are bronze they are different from the Bronze Star Medal which is generally awarded for valor or meritorious service.

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Feb 17, 2021 14:43:46   #
Chout Loc: Central Texas
 
Which campaign? Mine is for the final Cease Fire campaign.

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Feb 17, 2021 14:49:16   #
Chout Loc: Central Texas
 
That is before DD-214s. DD stands for Department of Defense which didn't exist until after WW2.
I don't know what the Navy form was, but the Army issued WD 53s.

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Feb 17, 2021 14:55:06   #
Chout Loc: Central Texas
 
Now they are called service stars and denote named campaigns. A silver service star indicates five awards of the bronze. They are also called battle stars and campaign stars. An arrowhead indicates an amphibious assault or a combat parachute drop.

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Feb 17, 2021 15:07:09   #
Chout Loc: Central Texas
 
Each Oak Leaf Cluster indicates an additional award. A silver Oak Leaf Cluster represents six awards, the basic medal plus five Bronze Oak Leaf clusters. The Air Medal could be awarded for a single action or for cumulative missions. The Air Medal is awarded for valor or Meritorious Service in aerial operations. It ranks below the Bronze Star Medal. Currently the Army awards bronze arabic numerals rather than service stars which indicated the total number of awards.

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Feb 17, 2021 15:13:16   #
Chout Loc: Central Texas
 
There is a time period chart of service ribbons on this site
https://www.printmag.com/post/the-good-war-for-military-design

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Feb 17, 2021 15:21:11   #
edrobinsonjr Loc: Boise, Idaho
 
Not sure about the medals but make an effort to get back with your brother. You never know what will happen in the future or when.

Ed

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