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Jan 30, 2021 20:49:08   #
franbires
 
I have been struggling nailing in focus photos and I have become rather frustrated. I included this photo I took today of a bluebird on a stag horn sumac. If anyone can help, I would appreciate it. It seems my biggest issue is initially nailing the focus, especially with small subjects like songbirds. I was probably 30 yards away when I took this photo. Here are the specifics: Canon 5D Mark IV, EF 100-400 f4.5-5.6L IS II USM, Shot taken - Manual, 1/1250, f/8, ISO 2500 and AF Zone, 9-points and Back Button Focus. When I try to locate my subject, I hit the BBF and sometimes for whatever reason, I miss the focus. I have come to the realization it is not my equipment, but me. Has anyone else gone through this. This should have been a keeper but as you can see, it is far from it. Thanks, Frustrated Fran



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Jan 30, 2021 20:54:54   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
We're willing to help. But, you must store the attachments. You can update your original post within the initial 50ish minutes. Or, just create a new <reply> and be sure to store the attachment.



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Jan 30, 2021 20:58:38   #
franbires
 
I thought I did. Did it go through this time?

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Jan 30, 2021 21:00:27   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
franbires wrote:
I thought I did. Did it go through this time?


The ability to 'download' will appear under the image when you've attached. The image should also be an original 'full size' JPEG.

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Jan 30, 2021 21:08:38   #
UTMike Loc: South Jordan, UT
 
Try again. Pick your shot, check "store original" and then click "attachment." This will give us enough pixels to help.

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Jan 30, 2021 21:11:27   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
franbires wrote:
I have been struggling nailing in focus photos and I have become rather frustrated. I included this photo I took today of a bluebird on a stag horn sumac. If anyone can help, I would appreciate it. It seems my biggest issue is initially nailing the focus, especially with small subjects like songbirds. I was probably 30 yards away when I took this photo. Here are the specifics: Canon 5D Mark IV, EF 100-400 f4.5-5.6L IS II USM, Shot taken - Manual, 1/1250, f/8, ISO 2500 and AF Zone, 9-points and Back Button Focus. When I try to locate my subject, I hit the BBF and sometimes for whatever reason, I miss the focus. I have come to the realization it is not my equipment, but me. Has anyone else gone through this. This should have been a keeper but as you can see, it is far from it. Thanks, Frustrated Fran
I have been struggling nailing in focus photos and... (show quote)


Is the focus mode you are using set to focus priority or release priority? If it is set to release priority the shutter may be firing before focus is attained.

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Jan 30, 2021 21:24:05   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
franbires wrote:
I have been struggling nailing in focus photos and I have become rather frustrated. I included this photo I took today of a bluebird on a stag horn sumac. If anyone can help, I would appreciate it. It seems my biggest issue is initially nailing the focus, especially with small subjects like songbirds. I was probably 30 yards away when I took this photo. Here are the specifics: Canon 5D Mark IV, EF 100-400 f4.5-5.6L IS II USM, Shot taken - Manual, 1/1250, f/8, ISO 2500 and AF Zone, 9-points and Back Button Focus. When I try to locate my subject, I hit the BBF and sometimes for whatever reason, I miss the focus. I have come to the realization it is not my equipment, but me. Has anyone else gone through this. This should have been a keeper but as you can see, it is far from it. Thanks, Frustrated Fran
I have been struggling nailing in focus photos and... (show quote)


On a stationary subject such as this pic use single point focus. If I use 9 point on my d500 on a stationary subject sometimes the camera picks the wrong focus point. I always use single point unless its bif ir something moveing fast enough I can't keep the single point on the subject. Just a guess but like everyone said we could see whats going on if you upload correctly so the experts can look at the data. I'm a hobbyist and a perfectionist. Lol. Best of luck.

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Jan 30, 2021 21:50:17   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
Paul is sorta your best shot at nailing down the issue once you figure out the download problem.

In the interim, I set my 5D to BBF with the following two options (keep in mind I'm what Mike calls a rock shooter, so I don't really do much photography with movement):

Both of these are back button focus settings:
(*) button: I set to Case 3 and Single Point Focus. This is nearly 100% of my focus solution for landscape.
(AF-ON): I set to Case 4 with the 9-point Focus. This may be the one you want, and play around with how large of a focus area works for you.

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Jan 30, 2021 21:52:46   #
franbires
 
With Al Servo 1st image priority is set to focus priority. Release is on the left and focus on the right. The arrow is far right.

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Jan 30, 2021 22:08:53   #
franbires
 
A 2nd attempt with this post with a downloadable photo.
I have been struggling nailing in focus photos and I have become rather frustrated. I included this photo I took today of a bluebird on a stag horn sumac. If anyone can help, I would appreciate it. It seems my biggest issue is initially nailing the focus, especially with small subjects like songbirds. I was probably 30 yards away when I took this photo. Here are the specifics: Canon 5D Mark IV, EF 100-400 f4.5-5.6L IS II USM, Shot taken - Manual, 1/1250, f/8, ISO 2500 and AF Zone, 9-points and Back Button Focus. When I try to locate my subject, I hit the BBF and sometimes for whatever reason, I miss the focus. I have come to the realization it is not my equipment, but me. Has anyone else gone through this. This should have been a keeper but as you can see, it is far from it. Thanks, Frustrated Fran




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Jan 30, 2021 22:18:32   #
bleirer
 
Maybe check your bbf setup. Or turn off bbf and try some without it, see if that is the variable.

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Jan 30, 2021 22:20:54   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
Here's what I posted in your last thread:

Paul is sorta your best shot at nailing down the issue once you figure out the download problem. You did that....LOL

In the interim, I set my 5D to BBF with the following two options (keep in mind I'm what Mike calls a rock shooter, so I don't really do much photography with movement):

Both of these are back button focus settings:
(*) button: I set to Case 3 and Single Point Focus. This is nearly 100% of my focus solution for landscape.
(AF-ON): I set to Case 4 with the 9-point Focus. This may be the one you want, and play around with how large of a focus area works for you.

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Jan 30, 2021 22:22:55   #
franbires
 
Thanks. I'll give that a shot!!

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Jan 30, 2021 22:28:42   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Look at your BBF usage. As shown in the attachment, no AF points were active when the attached image was captured. All the camera settings are fine, but you need to have your thumb actively pressing and holding that BBF button while you compose your shot and release the shutter in a burst.

For a small subject in a static position, consider too the expanded AF point, which is a single AF point and the four surrounding that point.


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Jan 30, 2021 22:40:33   #
franbires
 
I feel like I'm back in grade school. But once I press and hold the BBF button, I can let go before I squeeze the shutter correct?

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