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Jan 30, 2021 11:38:34   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
For all of the mirrorless fans who think it's not a real camera if it has a mirror (nudge nudge, Paul) , or one is not a real photographer if their camera has a mirror. Well, here's two of my mirrorless cameras that I've used since before mirrorless became a thing.
--Bob


Disclaimer-The Leica does have a small mirror used only for focusing.


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Jan 30, 2021 11:43:06   #
Ourspolair
 
Arf, Arf - every rangefinder camera is a mirrorless, along with a scad of bridge cameras... Point taken!

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Jan 30, 2021 11:45:54   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Thanks for joining in the fun, Ourspolair.
--Bob
Ourspolair wrote:
Arf, Arf - every rangefinder camera is a mirrorless, along with a scad of bridge cameras... Point taken!

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Jan 30, 2021 11:47:13   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Always been a fan of point-n-shoots.

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Jan 30, 2021 11:59:20   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I use the Leica as a point and shoot a lot of the time. Thanks for stopping by.
--Bob
Fotoartist wrote:
Always been a fan of point-n-shoots.

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Jan 30, 2021 12:00:37   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Why are you going to choose failure when a mirrorless camera is an option?

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Jan 30, 2021 12:02:27   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
That's the exact reason my 4x5 is my primary choice.
--Bob
CHG_CANON wrote:
Why are you going to choose failure when a mirrorless camera is an option?

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Jan 30, 2021 12:03:11   #
JFCoupe Loc: Kent, Washington
 
It is interesting that folks get so decidedly locked into a 'camp,' Mirrorless v DSLR, Canon V Nikon, Film v. Digital, etc.

I recall when cameras were first introducing aperture and shutter priority modes and the argument was that they were not as good as match-needle metering, then auto focus lenses first were introduced and the big fight was whether they were as good as manual focus, and in a few years auto focus became the norm. There were Kodak film camps and Fuji film camps, duking it out. And 15-18 years ago the controversy was film quality vs. digital.

Well, new technology is almost always going to rise to the top...and today mirrorless is upping its game.

There is a transition period, and DSLRs are still awesome and will continue to be for some time. Let each person make a choice and don't sweat it if it's not your choice.

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Jan 30, 2021 12:07:58   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Are you letting a mirror hold you back from the photographer you were meant to be?

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Jan 30, 2021 12:12:45   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Brand, design, format, they're all cameras,
they all take pictures.
Some people have favorites.

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Jan 30, 2021 12:35:25   #
neillaubenthal
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Why are you going to choose failure when a mirrorless camera is an option?


Because some of us don't need a crutch. We're not failing…we just realize that what brand/format/type of gear you use is irrelevant in the vast majority of situations…it is the talent, skills, vision, and knowledge of the guy/gal behind the viewfinder that is responsible for the image.

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Jan 30, 2021 12:39:11   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Most people only dream of success, the successful few wake up and buy a mirrorless camera.

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Jan 30, 2021 12:41:52   #
neillaubenthal
 
JFCoupe wrote:
It is interesting that folks get so decidedly locked into a 'camp,' Mirrorless v DSLR, Canon V Nikon, Film v. Digital, etc.

I recall when cameras were first introducing aperture and shutter priority modes and the argument was that they were not as good as match-needle metering, then auto focus lenses first were introduced and the big fight was whether they were as good as manual focus, and in a few years auto focus became the norm. There were Kodak film camps and Fuji film camps, duking it out. And 15-18 years ago the controversy was film quality vs. digital.

Well, new technology is almost always going to rise to the top...and today mirrorless is upping its game.

There is a transition period, and DSLRs are still awesome and will continue to be for some time. Let each person make a choice and don't sweat it if it's not your choice.
It is interesting that folks get so decidedly lock... (show quote)


Only a few of are locked into one and only one camp…and then…perhaps in order to justify their decision to themselves…they try to convince everybody else despite failing dreadfully and continually…that their camp is the "One True Camp" and it is only one that matters and that one would be a perfect camper if they would just join the right camp and if you camp in any other kind of camp you are just a complete and miserable failure.

The rest of us which are in the majority agree with you…folks in different (or no) camps are still camping successfully…they're just camping differently…and we know that camping is successful despite not being in the "only my camp is good" category.

Some folks like tents, some 5th wheel RVs, some class A RVs, some state parts, some out in the deep woods, some in resort campgrounds. It's still camping no matter which way you do it.

I've noticed that those in the "One True Camp" category tend to have pithy posts with supposedly deep psychological meaning that the rest of us are just to deplorable to understand and comprehend.

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Jan 30, 2021 12:54:01   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
JFCoupe wrote:
It is interesting that folks get so decidedly locked into a 'camp,' Mirrorless v DSLR, Canon V Nikon, Film v. Digital, etc.

I recall when cameras were first introducing aperture and shutter priority modes and the argument was that they were not as good as match-needle metering, then auto focus lenses first were introduced and the big fight was whether they were as good as manual focus, and in a few years auto focus became the norm. There were Kodak film camps and Fuji film camps, duking it out. And 15-18 years ago the controversy was film quality vs. digital.

Well, new technology is almost always going to rise to the top...and today mirrorless is upping its game.

There is a transition period, and DSLRs are still awesome and will continue to be for some time. Let each person make a choice and don't sweat it if it's not your choice.
It is interesting that folks get so decidedly lock... (show quote)


Some just have myopic views of what photography is. I started 40+ years ago with 35mm film (Kodak Retina II) that my father gave me. I'm currently moving into mirrorless now but I still love my DSLR and it's my opinion that the mirror is there to help compose your image - nothing more, nothing less. After all once the mirror & curtain flips up it's just exposing light to the sensor just like all cameras have done past present.

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Jan 30, 2021 13:44:43   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I've been awake for quite some time. I've been shooting mirrorless since 1953.
--Bob
CHG_CANON wrote:
Most people only dream of success, the successful few wake up and buy a mirrorless camera.

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