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Jan 25, 2021 10:26:55   #
Mainridge Loc: NW Mich, SW Fla
 
As a fledgling BIF photographer, I am trying to follow and find slower shorebirds in my camera’s viewfinder. Attached are some of my efforts. The third photo I find almost unpleasant to view because of the excessive depth of field. Would I have lost sharpness if I had increased my aperture setting or could I do some post processing in Lightroom to blur/change the backround? I hope this isn’t too elementary of a question. I am often reluctant to post because I am so impressed with the photos I am able to view. Any comments would be welcomed.


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Jan 25, 2021 10:33:25   #
Terrymac Loc: LONDON U.K.
 
I like no. 3 the best. Looks almost 3D. Thanks.

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Jan 25, 2021 10:44:55   #
jimvanells Loc: Augusta, GA
 
1 & 2 are fine and in focus. A smaller f stop on #3 would have blurred the background more.

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Jan 25, 2021 11:01:40   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
You're right - some of the photos are really impressive, and it is daunting to think that maybe yours might not compare favorably But the way to handle it is to just do it. Post. You want to learn. I want to learn. Then we need to post samples of what we take. And by the way, I like all three of yours. They're each well-done I've never even tried a BIF, so you're way ahead of me

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Jan 25, 2021 11:01:52   #
JeffDavidson Loc: Originally Detroit Now Los Angeles
 
I use a 70-200mm 2.8 and a 200-500mm F5.6 for BIF. I almost exclusively use f4.5-f8 and f8-f11 respectively. Situations vary. It appears that a small aperture was used on a bird that was relatively close to the background allowing for it to be in relative focus also. I would perhaps have shot wide open. I hope this helps.
Otherwise a nice early attempt and it looks like you are on your way. Keep on practicing.

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Jan 25, 2021 11:05:40   #
Mainridge Loc: NW Mich, SW Fla
 
Terrymac wrote:
I like no. 3 the best. Looks almost 3D. Thanks.


Terry Mac,
Thank-you for your response.

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Jan 25, 2021 11:06:38   #
Mainridge Loc: NW Mich, SW Fla
 
jimvanells wrote:
1 & 2 are fine and in focus. A smaller f stop on #3 would have blurred the background more.


I appreciate you taking a look.

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Jan 25, 2021 11:09:21   #
Mainridge Loc: NW Mich, SW Fla
 
joecichjr wrote:
You're right - some of the photos are really impressive, and it is daunting to think that maybe yours might not compare favorably But the way to handle it is to just do it. Post. You want to learn. I want to learn. Then we need to post samples of what we take. And by the way, I like all three of yours. They're each well-done I've never even tried a BIF, so you're way ahead of me
You're right - some of the photos are really impre... (show quote)


Thanks for your encouragement. The more I learn I realize the less I know.

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Jan 25, 2021 11:10:55   #
Mainridge Loc: NW Mich, SW Fla
 
JeffDavidson wrote:
I use a 70-200mm 2.8 and a 200-500mm F5.6 for BIF. I almost exclusively use f4.5-f8 and f8-f11 respectively. Situations vary. It appears that a small aperture was used on a bird that was relatively close to the background allowing for it to be in relative focus also. I would perhaps have shot wide open. I hope this helps.
Otherwise a nice early attempt and it looks like you are on your way. Keep on practicing.


Jeff,
Thank-you for your tips. I appreciate the feedback.

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Jan 25, 2021 11:15:39   #
bleirer
 
You can blur the background in photoshop for sure, i don't think so in lightroom. There are more complicated variations with masks, but this gives easy basics https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/how-to/blur-background-for-focal-point.html

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Jan 25, 2021 11:18:47   #
Mainridge Loc: NW Mich, SW Fla
 
bleirer wrote:
You can blur the background in photoshop for sure, i don't think so in lightroom. There are more complicated variations with masks, but this gives easy basics https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/how-to/blur-background-for-focal-point.html


Bleirer,

Thank-you for the link. I like easy basics

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Jan 25, 2021 11:50:32   #
kpmac Loc: Ragley, La
 
A wider f/stop would have been better in this case. Maybe even wide open. 1/8000 for slow-flying birds is a little much. Slow your shutter speed to allow for more light when appropriate. This will allow for wider apertures and better bokeh. You are off to a great start; keep at it.

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Jan 25, 2021 12:00:38   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
bleirer wrote:
You can blur the background in photoshop for sure, i don't think so in lightroom. There are more complicated variations with masks, but this gives easy basics https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/how-to/blur-background-for-focal-point.html


Most certainly can in Lightroom as well. And darken, including vignette, which is what I would try.

Here is attempt with Lightroom mobile on iPad.


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Jan 25, 2021 12:23:26   #
bleirer
 
IDguy wrote:
Most certainly can in Lightroom as well. And darken, including vignette, which is what I would try.

Here is attempt with Lightroom mobile on iPad.


What tool is used for blur in lightroom?

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Jan 25, 2021 17:27:05   #
Mainridge Loc: NW Mich, SW Fla
 
IDguy wrote:
Most certainly can in Lightroom as well. And darken, including vignette, which is what I would try.

Here is attempt with Lightroom mobile on iPad.


Thank-you for viewing and thank-you for your suggestions.

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