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Jan 22, 2021 03:26:42   #
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bdk wrote:
I am thinking about buying a nikon z7ii ( because I want it and can afford it )
I spoke with a woman I met out shooting today.
She has a z7 ( not II)
she said she has to manual focus most of her old nikon lenses.
also said her sigma 150/600 didn't work with it at all.
Non of this sounds right to me.
is anyone using a z7ii are are you having that problem???
also how do you like it, are you happy or sorry you bought it. and why...

What she’s saying sounds right to me, especially if she has AF Nikkors with aperture controls. And then there’s her Sigma. Sigma is notorious for failing to “future proof” their gear. I’ve tossed a few very fine Sigmas.

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Jan 22, 2021 03:41:26   #
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DavidPine wrote:
She's full of crap. The FTZ adaptor works great with Nikon DSLR lenses. I have 5 Z bodies and Nikon, Sigma and Tamron lenses. They all work very good. I even have an adaptor to mount my Canon lenses on my Z bodies.

Typical UHH. Best to ignore.

Not doubt that his stuff works. But he has no business extrapolating that to apply it to any other user’s stuff. If anyone is full of crap he’s quoted right above, and is NOT the woman that you had spoken to.

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Jan 22, 2021 03:45:59   #
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DavidPine wrote:
She's full of crap. The FTZ adaptor works great with Nikon DSLR lenses. I have 5 Z bodies and Nikon, Sigma and Tamron lenses. They all work very good. I even have an adaptor to mount my Canon lenses on my Z bodies.

Your sense of outrage reveals you as a true fanboi, thus your “advice” is always to be considered dubious.

When considering buying a “Z” I bought the Busch guide rather than asking any questions here. Unfortunately you are not unique on UHH.

A few bucks for 500 pages of accurate advice has prevented me from spending thousands on a system that does not deliver what its flacks are claiming.

I now use my Nikkors on Sony bodies. Fewer limitations than an FTZ converter, plus the comfort of Sony’s well proven cameras, rather than me serving Nikon as their beta tester at my own expense.

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Jan 22, 2021 09:07:21   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
User ID wrote:
Your sense of outrage reveals you as a true fanboi, thus your “advice” is always to be considered dubious.

When considering buying a “Z” I bought the Busch guide rather than asking any questions here. Unfortunately you are not unique on UHH.

A few bucks for 500 pages of accurate advice has prevented me from spending thousands on a system that does not deliver what its flacks are claiming.

I now use my Nikkors on Sony bodies. Fewer limitations than an FTZ converter, plus the comfort of Sony’s well proven cameras, rather than me serving Nikon as their beta tester at my own expense.
Your sense of outrage reveals you as a true fanboi... (show quote)


See, now we know where the real bull is coming from. There are no adapters with fewer limitations for Nikon lenses on Sony than the FTZ adapter and Nikon is well past the beta test stage.

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Jan 22, 2021 19:06:36   #
bdk Loc: Sanibel Fl.
 
boy I wish I could delete messages on my posts . I just asked a question I dont need arguing .... just your answer ...

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Jan 22, 2021 20:39:40   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
bdk wrote:
boy I wish I could delete messages on my posts . I just asked a question I dont need arguing .... just your answer ...


Just trying to keep someone that doesn’t even shoot Nikon from giving you bad info.

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Jan 23, 2021 03:16:57   #
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SuperflyTNT wrote:
See, now we know where the real bull is coming from. There are no adapters with fewer limitations for Nikon lenses on Sony than the FTZ adapter and Nikon is well past the beta test stage.

If the Z system is past beta then I have no use for it. My Nikkors are happier adapted to Sony bodies. The FTZ adapter gets me nothing.

Neither adapter can AF a shaft drive lens and neither has an auto iris lever. There’s nothing better about the FTZ. But the limitations are not in the adapter itself.

The limitations are in the Z cameras and acoarst each adapter is married to its camera type. I prefer the Sony adapter cuz it brings with it the well developed Sony cameras.

For a set of new Z lenses the Z cameras seem all well and good. But for Nikon’s SLR lenses the Z system is unappetizing. Therefore no benefit from the FTZ.

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Jan 23, 2021 03:22:00   #
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SuperflyTNT wrote:
Just trying to keep someone that doesn’t even shoot Nikon from giving you bad info.


Who do you think doesn’t use Nikon ?

There’s users and there’s fanbois. Two different species. Users offer experience. Fanbois offer arguments.

The OP would do well to listen to the user he met face to face (he mentions her in the first post).

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Jan 23, 2021 03:36:38   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
User ID wrote:
If the Z system is past beta then I have no use for it. My Nikkors are happier adapted to Sony bodies. The FTZ adapter gets me nothing.

Neither adapter can AF a shaft drive lens and neither has an auto iris lever. There’s nothing better about the FTZ. But the limitations are not in the adapter itself.

The limitations are in the Z cameras and acoarst each adapter is married to its camera type. I prefer the Sony adapter cuz it brings with it the well developed Sony cameras.

For a set of new Z lenses the Z cameras seem all well and good. But for Nikon’s SLR lenses the Z system is unappetizing.
If the Z system is past beta then I have no use fo... (show quote)


Yep, that’s not what you said. Your exact words were “ Fewer limitations than an FTZ converter” and that’s simply not true. All the research I’ve done says that the focus is slower using the Nikon to Sony adapters. Every lens I have that focuses with the FTZ works great. The only two that don’t autofocus still work great in all other aspects. You are right about one thing, the Z mount lenses are superb and the Z mount design opens up lens design possibilities that just aren’t possible with Sony’s e mount.

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Jan 23, 2021 03:58:17   #
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Right. The big missing word is “with”.

Accurate version:

“ ... fewer limitations than *WITH* an FTZ converter ... “

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Jan 23, 2021 11:02:07   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
User ID wrote:
Right. The big missing word is “with”.

Accurate version:

“ ... fewer limitations than *WITH* an FTZ converter ... “


Can you tell us which adapter for Sony has fewer limitations than the FTZ adapter and what those are?

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Jan 23, 2021 13:30:53   #
stevelink Loc: Colorado
 
bdk wrote:
I am thinking about buying a nikon z7ii ( because I want it and can afford it )
I spoke with a woman I met out shooting today.
She has a z7 ( not II)
she said she has to manual focus most of her old nikon lenses.
also said her sigma 150/600 didn't work with it at all.
Non of this sounds right to me.
is anyone using a z7ii are are you having that problem???
also how do you like it, are you happy or sorry you bought it. and why...


Hi bdk.
Though I can't speak to the Z7II, I do have the Z7, with a few stellar Nikkor S lenses, and can state without hesitation that the Z System is superb for my needs as a landscape and product photographer. If you don't require the extra processor, proper vertical grip capability, extra stop of EV for low light, extra card slot, or other "refinements" that I forgot to mention, AND your primary concern is pure Image Quality, then I think the Z7 would serve you well. My ultimate concern is image sharpness and detail in print output to about 30" x 40", and for that, the Z7 is superb! Combined with the 24-70 f/4 Nikkor S, the 50 f/1.8 Nikkor S, or the AF-P Nikkor FX 70-300mm F4.5-5.6E ED VR with FTZ adapter, the files obtained are the most highly detailed I've seen in 45 years of photography...large format images notwithstanding. And with the FTZ adapter, any older Nikkor AF lens with a motor "should" be able to auto-focus. (That would need to be confirmed, as I haven't used anything other than that newer AF-P Nikkor with the adapter. My only slight criticism of the FTZ adapter, is that one needs to mount/dismount a lens on it Before mounting the camera on a tripod, because of the adapter's foot slightly protruding below the camera body....a very minor inconvenience, but worth mentioning if you shoot on a tripod as I do. ) I'd also like to mention that the "kit" 24-70 f/4 Nikkor S zoom is very nearly as sharp as the MUCH more expensive and heavier f/2.8 Nikkor S version, except perhaps in the corners. Of course, if you shoot any type of action that requires fast operation and a large buffer, prefer to be able to back up images in-camera, or shoot alot in low light situations, then the Z7II may be a better choice. Good luck!

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Jan 23, 2021 13:42:19   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
stevelink wrote:
Hi bdk.
Though I can't speak to the Z7II, I do have the Z7, with a few stellar Nikkor S lenses, and can state without hesitation that the Z System is superb for my needs as a landscape and product photographer. If you don't require the extra processor, proper vertical grip capability, extra stop of EV for low light, extra card slot, or other "refinements" that I forgot to mention, AND your primary concern is pure Image Quality, then I think the Z7 would serve you well. My ultimate concern is image sharpness and detail in print output to about 30" x 40", and for that, the Z7 is superb! Combined with the 24-70 f/4 Nikkor S, the 50 f/1.8 Nikkor S, or the AF-P Nikkor FX 70-300mm F4.5-5.6E ED VR with FTZ adapter, the files obtained are the most highly detailed I've seen in 45 years of photography...large format images notwithstanding. And with the FTZ adapter, any older Nikkor AF lens with a motor "should" be able to auto-focus. (That would need to be confirmed, as I haven't used anything other than that newer AF-P Nikkor with the adapter. My only slight criticism of the FTZ adapter, is that one needs to mount/dismount a lens on it Before mounting the camera on a tripod, because of the adapter's foot slightly protruding below the camera body....a very minor inconvenience, but worth mentioning if you shoot on a tripod as I do. ) I'd also like to mention that the "kit" 24-70 f/4 Nikkor S zoom is very nearly as sharp as the MUCH more expensive and heavier f/2.8 Nikkor S version, except perhaps in the corners. Of course, if you shoot any type of action that requires fast operation and a large buffer, prefer to be able to back up images in-camera, or shoot alot in low light situations, then the Z7II may be a better choice. Good luck!
Hi bdk. br Though I can't speak to the Z7II, I do... (show quote)


If you’re switching F mount lenses you can attach the FTZ adapter directly to the tripod. It is problematic if you switching between F and Z mount lenses. I agree about the 24-70 f/4. It’s my most used lens on the Z7.

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Jan 23, 2021 14:27:01   #
stevelink Loc: Colorado
 
Good point! I have an L-bracket on my Z7, which I prefer to use, rather than the FTZ adapter's tripod socket. I feel that the L-bracket affords a bit more solid connection due to the surface area that makes contact with both camera and tripod.

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Jan 23, 2021 15:04:45   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
stevelink wrote:
Good point! I have an L-bracket on my Z7, which I prefer to use, rather than the FTZ adapter's tripod socket. I feel that the L-bracket affords a bit more solid connection due to the surface area that makes contact with both camera and tripod.


True. I also use an L bracket. The only F mount lens I regularly use on a tripod on my Z7 is my macro, which I haven’t done since I got the L bracket.

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