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Jan 17, 2021 09:57:34   #
Abo
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I've mentioned before how I tend to have duplicates of things. I decided to clean out my tool cabinet, so I removed the screwdrivers - just the slotted ones. I brought them inside and cleaned them while I was watching TV. I went through 100 screwdrivers, and that doesn't count the ones in various toolboxes. Many of these date back to when I was a kid.

Maybe I'll clean the Phillips screwdrivers tomorrow.

Before I put them back, I'll sort through them and put only the best ones back into the drawer. Looking online, I found lots of uses for old screwdrivers. Knock the metal part out, and use the handle for a file; sharpen the end to form an awl or a small scraper, etc.
I've mentioned before how I tend to have duplicate... (show quote)


If you have too many Phillips/JIS/Frearson/Pozidrive screwdrivers
the handle can be cut off about an inch down the shaft and the shaft (with the handle) and
ground to a point for use as a prodger... the rest of the screw driver can be used in the chuck of a drill...
two tools from the one.

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Jan 17, 2021 09:59:01   #
Schoee Loc: Europe
 
nervous2 wrote:
No!! He's multi-tasking. Dealing with the screwdrivers while watching TV--something he most likely would have been doing anyway. I have to tip my hat to anyone who can find things to stay occupied until the Covid lock-downs are a thing of the past. And relative to the latter--let me just say how fortunate I feel today given that I received my first vaccine dose yesterday. I got Moderna (was hoping for Pfizer with shorter interval between doses) so in another month or so--after second dose--I may be able to face the world again. In the meanwhile, let's all stay safe.
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While you are at it you could separate the left handed ones from the right handed ones :-)

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Jan 17, 2021 10:10:03   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
When I was in grad school we were always looking for the right type of screwdriver. Eventually someone got tired of that and ordered a gross (144) of assorted screwdrivers.

About 2 weeks later we were back to looking for the right type of screwdriver.

Must have been woodchucks. They eat everything you want to keep around.

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Jan 17, 2021 11:15:17   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
bobmcculloch wrote:
Keep the ones you inherited , remember who used them before you. I have a lot of old tools, some too old to use.


I have tools from my uncle and my grandfather and a wooden work stool my grandfather made.

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Jan 17, 2021 11:16:14   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Schoee wrote:
While you are at it you could separate the left handed ones from the right handed ones :-)


I made sure they were all righthanded. I also have them divided into metric and English.

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Jan 17, 2021 11:16:56   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Abo wrote:
If you have too many Phillips/JIS/Frearson/Pozidrive screwdrivers
the handle can be cut off about an inch down the shaft and the shaft (with the handle) and
ground to a point for use as a prodger... the rest of the screw driver can be used in the chuck of a drill...
two tools from the one.


Yes, one can never have enough prodgers.

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Jan 17, 2021 11:23:20   #
samantha90 Loc: Fort Worth,Texas
 
Jerry you never cease to amaze.

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Jan 17, 2021 11:30:09   #
pendennis
 
Just chalk the obsession up to GAS. I've bought innumerable screwdrivers over the years in the Quixotic quest to find the perfect one. Ain't gonna happen.

I should have left well enough alone when I made up a screwdriver for changeable bits in the 70's. I'd always bought Klein screwdrivers with the cushion grip. My dad, who was an electrician, always told me to buy Klein or Channellock tools, since I would only have to cry once. I still have lineman, crimper, diagonals, and needlenose pliers I bought in the late 60's.

Assemblers in our auto plant used a magnetic chuck tool tip for Apex #2 Phillips screws. A call to the local Apex tool rep got me a shaft and a few bits. I removed the bit from one of my Klein screwdrivers, mixed some epoxy, and set the Apex shaft into the Klein handle. I still have the screwdriver today. One of the great things about the bit holders, is that they're magnetic, and also have a collet.

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Jan 17, 2021 11:32:04   #
nobler
 
I have, and continue to use, hand tools that belonged to my father and grandfathers. Well made, and well cared for, tools will last forever. Not only that, but the familiarity gained from using old tools improves the efficiency of the craftsman, and the quality of his work. This has been going on since an early human picked up his favorite rock to chip a new arrowhead from a piece of flint.

---And computer/software companies wonder why customers baulk at the prospect of being forced to buy a new computer, with an unnecessarily changed user interface for both the OS and the apps, even though the old one works just fine.

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Jan 17, 2021 11:40:25   #
pendennis
 
nobler wrote:
I have, and continue to use, hand tools that belonged to my father and grandfathers. Well made, and well cared for, tools will last forever. Not only that, but the familiarity gained from using old tools improves the efficiency of the craftsman, and the quality of his work. This has been going on since an early human picked up his favorite rock to chip a new arrowhead from a piece of flint.

---And computer/software companies wonder why customers baulk (sic) at the prospect of being forced to buy a new computer, with an unnecessarily changed user interface for both the OS and the apps, even though the old one works just fine.
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I would only argue that technology improvement is driving both the computer improvements, and those of hand tools. Hand tools can be improved usually by leveraging basic mechanical principles, and improvements are driven by improved metallurgy. The hand tools of today bear resemblance to their ancestors, but "nano-ization" is a fact of life.

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Jan 17, 2021 11:46:19   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
pendennis wrote:
I would only argue that technology improvement is driving both the computer improvements, and those of hand tools. Hand tools can be improved usually by leveraging basic mechanical principles, and improvements are driven by improved metallurgy. The hand tools of today bear resemblance to their ancestors, but "nano-ization" is a fact of life.


Part of the computer “improvement” is the internet degradation. Security patches are probably the major things that are delivered in updates.

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Jan 17, 2021 12:09:25   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I've mentioned before how I tend to have duplicates of things. I decided to clean out my tool cabinet, so I removed the screwdrivers - just the slotted ones. I brought them inside and cleaned them while I was watching TV. I went through 100 screwdrivers, and that doesn't count the ones in various toolboxes. Many of these date back to when I was a kid.

Maybe I'll clean the Phillips screwdrivers tomorrow.

Before I put them back, I'll sort through them and put only the best ones back into the drawer. Looking online, I found lots of uses for old screwdrivers. Knock the metal part out, and use the handle for a file; sharpen the end to form an awl or a small scraper, etc.
I've mentioned before how I tend to have duplicate... (show quote)


You have me beat! About four years ago I was looking for a particular screwdriver and when I couldn’t find it I decided to get all my screwdrivers together in one place . I came up with 56.

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Jan 17, 2021 15:11:31   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I've mentioned before how I tend to have duplicates of things. I decided to clean out my tool cabinet, so I removed the screwdrivers - just the slotted ones. I brought them inside and cleaned them while I was watching TV. I went through 100 screwdrivers, and that doesn't count the ones in various toolboxes. Many of these date back to when I was a kid.

Maybe I'll clean the Phillips screwdrivers tomorrow.

Before I put them back, I'll sort through them and put only the best ones back into the drawer. Looking online, I found lots of uses for old screwdrivers. Knock the metal part out, and use the handle for a file; sharpen the end to form an awl or a small scraper, etc.
I've mentioned before how I tend to have duplicate... (show quote)


Me too, though not quite as many. Then there are the Robertson-head drivers, and the Torx, and . . .

I guess one has to be a bit screwy . . . .

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Jan 17, 2021 15:51:29   #
edrobinsonjr Loc: Boise, Idaho
 
Jerry, for your sake, I really hope this pandemic is over soon.

Ed

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Jan 17, 2021 17:39:55   #
Julian Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, I thought the actual number would make it more interesting than just saying "a lot." I'll try not to keep you in suspense with the Phillips.


Why not? I am at the edge of my seat...

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