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Jan 12, 2021 11:43:26   #
PACSMAN Loc: MA
 
Stop messing around with external drives and get a NAS.

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Jan 12, 2021 15:38:02   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
PACSMAN wrote:
Stop messing around with external drives and get a NAS.


A NAS system is not a good answer for files you are actively processing as speed are restricted as compared to TB3. Best of luck.

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Jan 12, 2021 15:38:22   #
lschiz Loc: Elgin, IL
 
steve_stoneblossom wrote:
Connect a new external hard drive and redirect LR to it.


I would suggest too:
Start a new catalog. Save the old one and back it up. Use it to access those images but start a new CAT so saving and backing up on closing is faster.

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Jan 12, 2021 15:44:13   #
brianajo Loc: Youngstown, Oh
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Copy all of the files from the external to a new larger external. If you plug it in and it has the same drive letter, you are good to go. If for some reason the drive letter changes, then redirect to the new drive in LR. The directories will be the same, so LR will understand.
Note: it is a good idea to keep your working catalogue on the internal drive with backups of the catalogue directed to your external. In operation LR does most of its work using the catalogue and rarely needs to re-access the original files once imported.
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you can change the drive letter on new drive to the letter of the old drive unplug old drive after you copy the files then rename the new drive

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Jan 12, 2021 16:01:14   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Copy the files to a larger external drive. Unplug both drives and reboot. Plug in the new drive again. If it has the same letter (Windows) or the same name (Mac) you're done.

If it does not have the same name, rename it (Mac) Not being a Mac guy, I don't know if that's enough. If you're on Windows you should force the new drive to have the old letter. You do that with with the disk management utility. Once the drive has the same letter, Lightroom will see your files as if you had done nothing.

It will be MUCH easier to rename the new drive than it could be to redirect LR to all your files.

https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-open-disk-management-2626080
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Jan 12, 2021 16:24:04   #
PACSMAN Loc: MA
 
cjc2 wrote:
A NAS system is not a good answer for files you are actively processing as speed are restricted as compared to TB3. Best of luck.


I don't disagree with your statement. I normally copy all my working files to a local drive and them move them to my NAS in Lightroom when I'm done. It sure beats messing around with multiple external drives.

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Jan 12, 2021 16:47:40   #
stangage
 
The advice I received from a Lightroom Sensei was to do the copy of the photo files to the new drive "FROM WITHIN LIGHTROOM". Then Lightroom will know where the files are. If you do the move from outside of lightroom then you may be faced with the laborious process of telling Lightroom where to find each folder or individual file. You can then change the drive letter if its important to you. The other piece of advice from this same person was, as mentioned above, to keep your Lightroom catalog(s) on your main system drive and keep them backed up These .lrcat files are not really big but contain all the editing info that you have done. Having the .lrcat files on your system drive will also speed up your editing process a bit. This is particularly true if you use an SSD as your system drive

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Jan 12, 2021 17:20:52   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
stangage wrote:
The advice I received from a Lightroom Sensei was to do the copy of the photo files to the new drive "FROM WITHIN LIGHTROOM". Then Lightroom will know where the files are. If you do the move from outside of lightroom then you may be faced with the laborious process of telling Lightroom where to find each folder or individual file. You can then change the drive letter if its important to you. The other piece of advice from this same person was, as mentioned above, to keep your Lightroom catalog(s) on your main system drive and keep them backed up These .lrcat files are not really big but contain all the editing info that you have done. Having the .lrcat files on your system drive will also speed up your editing process a bit. This is particularly true if you use an SSD as your system drive
The advice I received from a Lightroom Sensei was ... (show quote)


You are correct in this, as I stated in an earlier post, but darn, why do it the easy and quick way when you can figure out all kinds of "work arounds" that take longer and add to the difficulty of the simple task at hand...

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Jan 12, 2021 17:26:23   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
stangage wrote:
The advice I received from a Lightroom Sensei was to do the copy of the photo files to the new drive "FROM WITHIN LIGHTROOM". Then Lightroom will know where the files are. If you do the move from outside of lightroom then you may be faced with the laborious process of telling Lightroom where to find each folder or individual file. You can then change the drive letter if its important to you. The other piece of advice from this same person was, as mentioned above, to keep your Lightroom catalog(s) on your main system drive and keep them backed up These .lrcat files are not really big but contain all the editing info that you have done. Having the .lrcat files on your system drive will also speed up your editing process a bit. This is particularly true if you use an SSD as your system drive
The advice I received from a Lightroom Sensei was ... (show quote)


Your source was correct, you catalog should be on c drive in the Lightroom.

As far as copying, no. As long as you do your copying with Windows and and do an exact copy of all the directories then rename the new drive the same as the old drive there's nothing else to do Lightroom will see it immediately. This is exactly what I do. You have to remember, each time you unplug an external drive, and plug it in later, it may not be the same drive letter. So, I think my way to actually better, or you will have to tell Lightroom where the new one is.

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Jan 12, 2021 18:06:32   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
stangage wrote:
The advice I received from a Lightroom Sensei was to do the copy of the photo files to the new drive "FROM WITHIN LIGHTROOM". Then Lightroom will know where the files are...


That way will work, but if you have a lot of files it is likely to be slow. Last time I moved files through LR, it moved the files rather than just copying them.

I think there are two ways that compete for "best":

(1) Copying the entire folder structure to a new larger disk, then re-naming that disk so it has the same path as the original disk;

(2) The method posted by Bogin Bob (https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-681355-1.html#11904304) which I have not personally tried, but if it works it is probably the easiest method.

Note that, whichever way you use, you should explicitly rename the new external disk you are using for your original photos. The reason is that when you connect an external disk to your computer, the OS looks for a convenient name for the new disk. If you have set up a name explicitly that name will be used (as long as another disk with that name is not currently attached). If you have not set up a name explicitly using the Disk Management utility, the OS will choose the new name. If it chooses something other than what Lightroom expects, LR will not see your images.

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Jan 12, 2021 18:10:15   #
rck281 Loc: Overland Park, KS
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Copy all of the files from the external to a new larger external. If you plug it in and it has the same drive letter, you are good to go. If for some reason the drive letter changes, then redirect to the new drive in LR. The directories will be the same, so LR will understand.
Note: it is a good idea to keep your working catalogue on the internal drive with backups of the catalogue directed to your external. In operation LR does most of its work using the catalogue and rarely needs to re-access the original files once imported.
Copy all of the files from the external to a new l... (show quote)


You can't have 2 DRIVES plugged in with the same drive letter! It's easy to change the drive letter in Windows by using Disk Management.

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Jan 12, 2021 21:17:40   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
That way will work, but if you have a lot of files it is likely to be slow. Last time I moved files through LR, it moved the files rather than just copying them.

I think there are two ways that compete for "best":

(1) Copying the entire folder structure to a new larger disk, then re-naming that disk so it has the same path as the original disk;

(2) The method posted by Bogin Bob (https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-681355-1.html#11904304) which I have not personally tried, but if it works it is probably the easiest method.

Note that, whichever way you use, you should explicitly rename the new external disk you are using for your original photos. The reason is that when you connect an external disk to your computer, the OS looks for a convenient name for the new disk. If you have set up a name explicitly that name will be used (as long as another disk with that name is not currently attached). If you have not set up a name explicitly using the Disk Management utility, the OS will choose the new name. If it chooses something other than what Lightroom expects, LR will not see your images.
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I have discussed this before. I always use number 1. I label any disk I have changed the drive letter with the drive letter and program it is used for. If you have a drive labeled "F" and it is only used with LR, light room will see it as f ( go will the computer) no problem. And when this drive is not connected, and the next drive letter available is "F" windows will label it "G" I believe, because "F" is already reserved. Just like "C" is reserved. I have my external drives labeled F g and g. C and d are used by the system and e is my data drive, internal. "D" is not always reserved. Some times it is the back up drive for windows.

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Jan 13, 2021 07:13:55   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
cjc2 wrote:
A NAS system is not a good answer for files you are actively processing as speed are restricted as compared to TB3. Best of luck.


May not be an issue if using LR a lot and the catalogue is still on the internal drive. After import LR does not access the original files very much, so being on a NAS is not an issue. PS is a different issue. However, (to the other poster) a NAS actually is an external drive or drives.

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