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Jan 11, 2021 10:19:39   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
raypep wrote:
I just bought a new Epson V 600 scanner to finally scan in photos going back 40 years. The photos in the oldest albums are “stuck” to the back of the page and I fear pulling them out will tear them. I started to scan with the plastic cover still on. The photos are ok but not great. Some show the glare of the plastic. Any suggestions on how to scan better with the plastic cover on? Any suggestions how to remove old photos from the album sheet without damaging them? Thanks so much for your help.



I just went through and did the same thing. I had photos that were stuck and couldn't remove because it was going to do more damage to the photo. So I just scanned the whole page and then cropped them out individually. Some of them the plastic was flat and there was no glare it was glare proof plastic. Some of them the plastic was crinkled slightly and did give some reflection in the photo but it wasn't that bad. so since it was just family photos meant for memories and so forth and genealogy stuff I didn't even try to edit it out. Because the people were recognizable. someone mentioned to heat the plastic a little bit I didn't even think of that but a hair dryer done over it would flatten the plastic, but in doing that it could also cause damage to the photo by the plastic moving and tearing the photo so I don't think I would do that.

As was mentioned by someone else instead of scanning if you're worried about the reflections then do it with a macro and do it with a lights above and at 45° angles to the to the photo to stop the reflection.

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Jan 11, 2021 10:33:29   #
David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
 
raypep wrote:
Putty knife ! Never thought of that. Thanks .
If you don't have a thin putty knife, a thin metal spatula will work, or even a common tableware knife.

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Jan 11, 2021 10:49:40   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
raypep wrote:
I just bought a new Epson V 600 scanner to finally scan in photos going back 40 years. The photos in the oldest albums are “stuck” to the back of the page and I fear pulling them out will tear them. I started to scan with the plastic cover still on. The photos are ok but not great. Some show the glare of the plastic. Any suggestions on how to scan better with the plastic cover on? Any suggestions how to remove old photos from the album sheet without damaging them? Thanks so much for your help.

It seems that removing your photos from these "magnetic" albums is actually very highly recommended (I did mine years ago). The albums used sticky pages with a mylar or pvc sheet to cover the photos. Turns out that the page glue is acidic, and the overlying sheet locks in the acid fumes, all of which degrades the photos.

Here's an article addressing the problems you're facing. Interestingly, such tools as waxed dental floss, a spatula (as previously recommended), a freezer or a microwave, may help solve your stuck mylar problem:
https://www.thoughtco.com/safely-removing-photos-magnetic-sticky-albums-1422292

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Jan 11, 2021 11:00:11   #
balancr Loc: VA
 
A couple drops of glycerin or even baby oil on the plastic will spread out and fill the gap between surface and plastic and eliminate reflections. Wax on, wax off of course to keep it clean.

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Jan 11, 2021 11:07:52   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
David Martin wrote:
It seems that removing your photos from these "magnetic" albums is actually very highly recommended (I did mine years ago). The albums used sticky pages with a mylar or pvc sheet to cover the photos. Turns out that the page glue is acidic, and the overlying sheet locks in the acid fumes, all of which degrades the photos.

Here's an article addressing the problems you're facing. Interestingly, such tools as waxed dental floss, a spatula (as previously recommended), a freezer or a microwave, may help solve your stuck mylar problem:
https://www.thoughtco.com/safely-removing-photos-magnetic-sticky-albums-1422292
It seems that removing your photos from these &quo... (show quote)




Polypropylene pocketed pages are archival storage. Those old paper and paper/tacky adhesive/plastic overlay pages are not! Get rid of them if you can gently remove your prints.

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Jan 11, 2021 11:44:02   #
raypep
 
frankraney wrote:
I just went through and did the same thing. I had photos that were stuck and couldn't remove because it was going to do more damage to the photo. So I just scanned the whole page and then cropped them out individually. Some of them the plastic was flat and there was no glare it was glare proof plastic. Some of them the plastic was crinkled slightly and did give some reflection in the photo but it wasn't that bad. so since it was just family photos meant for memories and so forth and genealogy stuff I didn't even try to edit it out. Because the people were recognizable. someone mentioned to heat the plastic a little bit I didn't even think of that but a hair dryer done over it would flatten the plastic, but in doing that it could also cause damage to the photo by the plastic moving and tearing the photo so I don't think I would do that.

As was mentioned by someone else instead of scanning if you're worried about the reflections then do it with a macro and do it with a lights above and at 45° angles to the to the photo to stop the reflection.
I just went through and did the same thing. I had ... (show quote)


Thank you. The scanned photos are “ok” and will be just for family viewing of family. I’ll do my best but not go crazy if they are less than perfect.

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Jan 11, 2021 12:01:30   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
If you have to leave the plastic in place and it's crinkled:

Set up your camera on a tripod to make copies of the photos.
Use lights from the side at an angle. If the plastic is crinkled you will get some glare.
If you move the lights, the glare will move to a different location.

Using Photoshop or equivalent, load all the images into layers. Make sure they're aligned. On the top layer erase the areas with glare on the plastic. If the lights were moved enough on the layer below, there won't be any glare in that location. You may need several layers to eliminate all the glare depending on how crinkled the plastic is.

And, of course, if you manage to remove the photos without damage, throw away that album and put the photos in a new one with archival plastic.

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Jan 11, 2021 12:07:57   #
cruise4two
 
raypep wrote:
I just bought a new Epson V 600 scanner to finally scan in photos going back 40 years. The photos in the oldest albums are “stuck” to the back of the page and I fear pulling them out will tear them. I started to scan with the plastic cover still on. The photos are ok but not great. Some show the glare of the plastic. Any suggestions on how to scan better with the plastic cover on? Any suggestions how to remove old photos from the album sheet without damaging them? Thanks so much for your help.


I've had very good luck using an offset spatula (the kind cake decorators use) to work plastic or backing off photos. This spatula is much longer thinner & more flexible than a putty knife.

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Jan 11, 2021 13:25:18   #
jensonmd Loc: Freeland, MI
 
There is an app called Photo-scan which they say can be used in this instance even while in the albums. I have used it and it works pretty good. Worth a try.

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Jan 11, 2021 13:40:48   #
DaveD65 Loc: Queen City, Ohio
 
The sticky stuff that hold the photo in position is usually just wax. Warm the back of the page with a hairdryer and use use the wide putty knife and I bet it will easily be removed.

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Jan 11, 2021 22:46:35   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
raypep wrote:
Thank you. The scanned photos are “ok” and will be just for family viewing of family. I’ll do my best but not go crazy if they are less than perfect.


Also, after scanning, you can try some of the solutions and see if you can get them loose and out. Then put in Arcavial storage ones. I put mine in three ring binders in Arcavial envelopes. I rescanned any I needed. Luckily I only had one the got damaged removing, and it was bad at all.

Burkphoto is right on.

Good luck.

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