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Jan 8, 2021 09:24:12   #
usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl
 
Congressman Louie Ghomert (R-TX) said today that prior to the protest on J** 6th, Capitol Hill police told him they were expecting members of A****a and B*M to pose as Trump supporters and cause havoc during the 'peaceful' protests. What did DC mayor, Big Bowser, do?? Not a damned thing !! First of all, she is a huge supporter of B*M, as witnessed by the huge sign she had painted on the street :-( Capitol Hill police offered no resistance, while large numbers the National Guard stood by for the call that never came :-( Facial recognition technology has already ID'd the 'cow head maggot' as A****a scum from Pennsylvania :-( Don't expect this technology to continue exposing these low-lifes, Big Bowser will see to that !! So, just out of the blue, after more than 5 years, Trump supporters turned ugly, huh?? GMAFB !! Only Stevie Wonder couldn't see the unbelievable fraud committed by the DemoRatz and the Worthless Rinos :-( !!!

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Jan 8, 2021 09:26:35   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
usnpilot wrote:
Congressman Louie Ghomert (R-TX) said today that prior to the protest on J** 6th, Capitol Hill police told him they were expecting members of A****a and B*M to pose as Trump supporters and cause havoc during the 'peaceful' protests. What did DC mayor, Big Bowser, do?? Not a damned thing !! First of all, she is a huge supporter of B*M, as witnessed by the huge sign she had painted on the street :-( Capitol Hill police offered no resistance, while large numbers the National Guard stood by for the call that never came :-( Facial recognition technology has already ID'd the 'cow head maggot' as A****a scum from Pennsylvania :-( Don't expect this technology to continue exposing these low-lifes, Big Bowser will see to that !! So, just out of the blue, after more than 5 years, Trump supporters turned ugly, huh?? GMAFB !! Only Stevie Wonder couldn't see the unbelievable fraud committed by the DemoRatz and the Worthless Rinos :-( !!!
Congressman Louie Ghomert (R-TX) said today that p... (show quote)


Gohmert still claims wearing a mask gave him c***d. Just google "dumbest man in congress".

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Jan 8, 2021 09:33:55   #
Triple G
 
usnpilot wrote:
Congressman Louie Ghomert (R-TX) said today that prior to the protest on J** 6th, Capitol Hill police told him they were expecting members of A****a and B*M to pose as Trump supporters and cause havoc during the 'peaceful' protests. What did DC mayor, Big Bowser, do?? Not a damned thing !! First of all, she is a huge supporter of B*M, as witnessed by the huge sign she had painted on the street :-( Capitol Hill police offered no resistance, while large numbers the National Guard stood by for the call that never came :-( Facial recognition technology has already ID'd the 'cow head maggot' as A****a scum from Pennsylvania :-( Don't expect this technology to continue exposing these low-lifes, Big Bowser will see to that !! So, just out of the blue, after more than 5 years, Trump supporters turned ugly, huh?? GMAFB !! Only Stevie Wonder couldn't see the unbelievable fraud committed by the DemoRatz and the Worthless Rinos :-( !!!
Congressman Louie Ghomert (R-TX) said today that p... (show quote)



There is enough information on many of the i**********nists who proudly took videos and posted on their social media showing their support for trump. The FBI has a daunting task to identify all of them. When they have proof of A****a, you’ll know it. So far white nationalist groups and Q***n shaman have been identified..they have expressed that they’re pissed at Gaetz and Wood for not giving them true credit.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9915987198

https://www.sfgate.com/nation/article/q-shaman-us-capitol-a****a-matt-gaetz-15852663.php

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/a****a-false-f**g-maga-r**t-1110941/

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Jan 8, 2021 09:36:28   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
The Washington Times appeared to retract an article claiming that a facial recognition company identified members of the left-wing a****a movement that the paper said infiltrated a group of President Trump's supporters that stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday.

The company, XRVision, demanded the article be taken down and alleged that it was completely false, according to an email statement sent to The Hill. The article appeared to be taken down Thursday afternoon. 



"XRVision takes p***e in its technology's precision and deems the Washington Times publication as outright false, misleading, and defamatory," the statement read. 

The Washington Times didn’t immediately respond to comment from The Hill.

The article, which was published Wednesday, alleged that XRVision performed a facial recognition of protesters and matched “two Philadelphia A****a members to two men inside the Senate.”

One man allegedly had a tattoo indicating he is a “Stalinist sympathizer,” the article claimed. The article also said another man identified “shows up at climate and Black L***s M****r protests in the West” but said that he had no known links to a****a.

The article went v***l as the r**t progressed. When the House reconvened after the siege, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), a staunch supporter of Trump, gave a fiery floor speech in which specifically cited the Times's article. 

Prior to the article being taken down, XRVision told The Hill in a statement that the analysis actually identified two members of neo-N**i organizations and an actor with “Q***n promotion history.” No identification associated with a****a was made with any of them.

When asked if the company was aware that the article was taken down, the attorney said it was unaware, but “unfortunately, the damage has already been done.”

The Washington Times told The Hill on Thursday evening that the story was re-uploaded with the following correction: "An earlier version of this story incorrectly stated that XRVision facial recognition software identified A****a members among r****rs who stormed the Capitol Wednesday. XRVision did not identify any A****a members. The Washington Times apologizes to XRVision for the error."

The new version of the story instead cites "other evidence" that a****a members were at the r**t, including a "day-after account from a law enforcement source" claiming that professional protesters were posing as "Trumpers."

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Jan 8, 2021 09:37:09   #
usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl
 
thom w wrote:
Gohmert still claims wearing a mask gave him c***d. Just google "dumbest man in congress".


That’s all you have?

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Jan 8, 2021 09:51:49   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
usnpilot wrote:
Congressman Louie Ghomert (R-TX) said today that prior to the protest on J** 6th, Capitol Hill police told him they were expecting members of A****a and B*M to pose as Trump supporters and cause havoc during the 'peaceful' protests. What did DC mayor, Big Bowser, do?? Not a damned thing !! First of all, she is a huge supporter of B*M, as witnessed by the huge sign she had painted on the street :-( Capitol Hill police offered no resistance, while large numbers the National Guard stood by for the call that never came :-( Facial recognition technology has already ID'd the 'cow head maggot' as A****a scum from Pennsylvania :-( Don't expect this technology to continue exposing these low-lifes, Big Bowser will see to that !! So, just out of the blue, after more than 5 years, Trump supporters turned ugly, huh?? GMAFB !! Only Stevie Wonder couldn't see the unbelievable fraud committed by the DemoRatz and the Worthless Rinos :-( !!!
Congressman Louie Ghomert (R-TX) said today that p... (show quote)



Not sure where you get you info :

The “ cow headed” r****r is not A****a.
He is an Arizona Q***n wacko

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2021/01/06/arizona-q***n-supporter-jake-angeli-joins-storming-u-s-capitol/6568513002/

That certainly puts the rest of your post in question.

The false a****a b*m nonesense started with the false social media posting by Lin Wood, an attorney supporting trump:


https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jan/07/theres-no-proof-a****a-stormed-capitol-rumor-sprea/



As far as the failure of the capitol protection. The problem is the total lack of a single leadership structure. All the enforcement entities have different bosses with no central leadership. Basically the same problem we saw after 9-11 intelligence failure that led to the position of Director of National Intelligence.

There is no conspiracy here. The simple facts are (1)A wacko president that instigated it and (2)a failure of leadership at all levels of law enforcement

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Jan 8, 2021 09:53:23   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
usnpilot wrote:
Congressman Louie Ghomert (R-TX) said today that prior to the protest on J** 6th, Capitol Hill police told him they were expecting members of A****a and B*M to pose as Trump supporters and cause havoc during the 'peaceful' protests. What did DC mayor, Big Bowser, do?? Not a damned thing !! First of all, she is a huge supporter of B*M, as witnessed by the huge sign she had painted on the street :-( Capitol Hill police offered no resistance, while large numbers the National Guard stood by for the call that never came :-( Facial recognition technology has already ID'd the 'cow head maggot' as A****a scum from Pennsylvania :-( Don't expect this technology to continue exposing these low-lifes, Big Bowser will see to that !! So, just out of the blue, after more than 5 years, Trump supporters turned ugly, huh?? GMAFB !! Only Stevie Wonder couldn't see the unbelievable fraud committed by the DemoRatz and the Worthless Rinos :-( !!!
Congressman Louie Ghomert (R-TX) said today that p... (show quote)


Are you trying to absolve Trump and his supporters of any responsibility for the horrific attack on our Capitol Building which the entire world watched Wednesday?

The most extreme of the Trump supporters didn't suddenly become violent. Where were you when armed m*****a groups stormed state Capitol Buildings? Do you even know that a far right m*****a group planned to kidnap the Democratic governor of Michigan and execute her as well as other Democratic leaders. Trump told his followers to travel to DC on J****** 6 because it was going to be "wild". Trump’s words before the horrible invasion of the Capitol Building incited the crowd to do what they did. The r****rs who beat the policemen to death were not members of your boogeyman "A****a". They were members of an extremist faction of your leader's supporters. After those horrible scenes unfolded Wednesday, you started a thread in which you stated, "When trump lost the e******n, he lost his mind". You apparently have been drinking a lot of kool-aid since Wednesday.

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Jan 8, 2021 09:55:10   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
Usnpilot's post on Wednesday:

As most of you know I have been a Republican for a long period of time and I have a Trump supporter for the first three years and 11 months of his presidency. My apologies for that because today watching what’s going on in Washington DC which is a direct result of trumps rhetoric I see a complete breakdown of the republican party as well as the fall of the republic as we know it. Joe Biden just made some really good comments about what’s going on and then Trump came on and basically said nothing. In my opinion when Trump lost the e******n he also lost his mind. I am not excited about a Biden presidency but I am looking forward to trump leaving the White House on the 21st.

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Jan 8, 2021 10:02:45   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Wh**ever, law enforcement failed to protect the Capitol by all means available. Behavior matters, and it provides a measure by which to criticize.
usnpilot wrote:
Congressman Louie Ghomert (R-TX) said today that prior to the protest on J** 6th, Capitol Hill police told him they were expecting members of A****a and B*M to pose as Trump supporters and cause havoc during the 'peaceful' protests. What did DC mayor, Big Bowser, do?? Not a damned thing !! First of all, she is a huge supporter of B*M, as witnessed by the huge sign she had painted on the street :-( Capitol Hill police offered no resistance, while large numbers the National Guard stood by for the call that never came :-( Facial recognition technology has already ID'd the 'cow head maggot' as A****a scum from Pennsylvania :-( Don't expect this technology to continue exposing these low-lifes, Big Bowser will see to that !! So, just out of the blue, after more than 5 years, Trump supporters turned ugly, huh?? GMAFB !! Only Stevie Wonder couldn't see the unbelievable fraud committed by the DemoRatz and the Worthless Rinos :-( !!!
Congressman Louie Ghomert (R-TX) said today that p... (show quote)

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Jan 8, 2021 10:10:00   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
usnpilot wrote:
That’s all you have?


That's as much effort I'm willing to put into trying to school you. Just because Gohmert says something doesn't prove it's wrong, but based on his record I wouldn't quote him. He is a joke. In a hearing not too long ago I heard many members say "Louie, take your meds".

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Jan 8, 2021 10:21:31   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
anotherview wrote:
Wh**ever, law enforcement failed to protect the Capitol by all means available. Behavior matters, and it provides a measure by which to criticize.


I agree that law enforcement failed and we need to investigate why they were so overwhelmed. Trump says that he immediately called for assistance from the National Guard, but that statement is being disputed. It will take time to sort out the true timeliness of the response.

These are comments from the Department of Defense:

Once the reality of the assault on the U.S. Capitol became apparent, National Guard troops responded appropriately and with alacrity, DOD officials said in a phone briefing today.

"Yesterday was a horrible and shameful day here in the capital, and the nation at large," Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy said on the call. "The District of Columbia asked the Army for help, and our National Guard responded."

McCarthy, Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Rath Hoffman and Kenneth P. Rapuano, the assistant secretary of defense for homeland defense, put the timeline of the National Guard response in perspective during the call.

D.C. officials knew of the planned protests and had requested some assistance to help when the "first amendment demonstrations" were planned for January 5 and 6, McCarthy said. Based on this request, officials called up 340 National Guardsmen to help in the peaceful protests. The guardsmen were assigned mainly to traffic control, Metro crowd control, some logistics support and a 40-member quick reaction force to be based at Joint Base Andrews in Maryland.

"No other requests were made," the Army secretary said. 

 In the midst of this tragedy, I was proud of the professionalism of our Department of Defense personnel. I want to specifically recognize the service of the District of Columbia National Guard.

But the peaceful protests turned into a mob r**ting through the halls, chambers and offices of the U.S. Capitol. At around 2 p.m., requests came from D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser for more assistance. Acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller immediately called up 1,100 members of the D.C. National Guard.

At the same time, officials were collecting guardsmen at traffic points and Metro stations and returning them to the D.C. Armory to refit for a crowd control mission, the secretary said. They were tasked to support D.C. Metropolitan Police and Capitol Hill Police.

Guardsmen started flowing into the area of the Capitol soon after and reinforced Metro Police on the perimeter of the Capitol. This allowed the police and FBI personnel to clear the chambers and offices of the U.S. Capitol, McCarthy said. "By 7:15, both chambers and leadership offices were cleared, and members were able to return to business, and we began the planning for the following day," he said.

At 6 p.m., acting Defense Secretary Miller authorized the mobilization of up to 6,200 National Guardsmen from Maryland, Virginia, New York, New Jersey, Delaware and Pennsylvania. These service members will flow into the city over the next few days and will help secure the peaceful t******r of p***r to President-elect Joseph Biden on January 20.

"Yesterday's violence at the Capitol was reprehensible and contrary to the tenets of the United States Constitution," Miller said in a written release from the Pentagon. "In the midst of this tragedy, I was proud of the professionalism of our Department of Defense personnel. I want to specifically recognize the service of the District of Columbia National Guard. They performed with honor, integrity and alacrity to protect people and property from unlawful acts."

 I strongly condemn these acts of violence against our democracy. I, and the people I lead in the Department of Defense, continue to perform our duties in accordance with our oath of office ..."

The DOD is in support of the Justice Department, which is the lead federal agency in this situation. They relied on estimates of the Metropolitan Police and Capitol Hill Police. Those organizations, which had experience with pro-Trump groups in November and December, believed the request they made for personnel was adequate. "We don't do domestic [intelligence] collection," Pentagon spokesman Hoffman said. "We rely on C*****l P****e and federal law enforcement to provide an assessment of the situation. And based on that assessment that they had, they believed they had sufficient personnel and did not make a request."

Estimates of the crowd size were all over the map, Rapuano said. 

Today, there are 741 National Guardsmen on the Capitol grounds. Guardsmen are also manning traffic checkpoints. They have also put up a non-scalable fence around the Capitol grounds. More guardsmen will arrive in the days ahead. 

"Our Republic may have been disrupted yesterday, but the resolve of our legislators to conduct the people's business did not waver," Miller wrote. "Due to their efforts, supported by local and federal law enforcement and the National Guard, the attempts of those who tried to stop our government from functioning failed. I strongly condemn these acts of violence against our democracy. I, and the people I lead in the Department of Defense, continue to perform our duties in accordance with our oath of office, and will execute the time-honored peaceful t***sition of power to President-elect Biden on January 20."

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Jan 8, 2021 10:30:51   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
usnpilot wrote:
Congressman Louie Ghomert (R-TX) said today that prior to the protest on J** 6th, Capitol Hill police told him they were expecting members of A****a and B*M to pose as Trump supporters and cause havoc during the 'peaceful' protests. What did DC mayor, Big Bowser, do?? Not a damned thing !! First of all, she is a huge supporter of B*M, as witnessed by the huge sign she had painted on the street :-( Capitol Hill police offered no resistance, while large numbers the National Guard stood by for the call that never came :-( Facial recognition technology has already ID'd the 'cow head maggot' as A****a scum from Pennsylvania :-( Don't expect this technology to continue exposing these low-lifes, Big Bowser will see to that !! So, just out of the blue, after more than 5 years, Trump supporters turned ugly, huh?? GMAFB !! Only Stevie Wonder couldn't see the unbelievable fraud committed by the DemoRatz and the Worthless Rinos :-( !!!
Congressman Louie Ghomert (R-TX) said today that p... (show quote)


I understand they have made great advances in treating traumatic brain injury.
You should seek out the right doctor.

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Jan 8, 2021 11:26:53   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
usnpilot wrote:
That’s all you have?


Your post, in your own words, after watching the horrific scenes on Wednesday:

"As most of you know I have been a Republican for a long period of time and I have a Trump supporter for the first three years and 11 months of his presidency. My apologies for that because today watching what’s going on in Washington DC which is a direct result of trumps rhetoric I see a complete breakdown of the republican party as well as the fall of the republic as we know it. Joe Biden just made some really good comments about what’s going on and then Trump came on and basically said nothing. In my opinion when Trump lost the e******n he also lost his mind. I am not excited about a Biden presidency but I am looking forward to trump leaving the White House on the 21st."

You know what you saw Wednesday with your own eyes. Will you explain what happened between Wednesday and Friday? My guess is that you went to your favorite far right news sites and you accepted their warped interpretations of what you saw on Wednesday. There were no "busloads of A****a" storming our Capitol Building on Wednesday. There were hoards of Trump supporters who were incited to act like a lawless mob after listening to dangerous lies told by Trump, Donnie Jr, and Rudy. You can complain all that you want to about the MSM, but your far right media is far more dishonest and dangerous.

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Jan 8, 2021 16:05:50   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
usnpilot wrote:
That’s all you have?


Looks like you asked the wrong question.

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Jan 8, 2021 18:25:33   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Why did law enforcement fail to use all available means to protect the Capitol from the mob?

Mob control includes tear gas, pepper spray, tasers, dogs, water cannons, birdshot, nets, and night sticks, along with shooting to k**l attackers on the supposition that they pose great harm to the Capitol and to people inside it.

One cannot pussyfoot with a mob. One must fight fire with fire.
gorgehiker wrote:
I agree that law enforcement failed and we need to investigate why they were so overwhelmed. Trump says that he immediately called for assistance from the National Guard, but that statement is being disputed. It will take time to sort out the true timeliness of the response.

These are comments from the Department of Defense:

Once the reality of the assault on the U.S. Capitol became apparent, National Guard troops responded appropriately and with alacrity, DOD officials said in a phone briefing today.

"Yesterday was a horrible and shameful day here in the capital, and the nation at large," Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy said on the call. "The District of Columbia asked the Army for help, and our National Guard responded."

McCarthy, Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Rath Hoffman and Kenneth P. Rapuano, the assistant secretary of defense for homeland defense, put the timeline of the National Guard response in perspective during the call.

D.C. officials knew of the planned protests and had requested some assistance to help when the "first amendment demonstrations" were planned for January 5 and 6, McCarthy said. Based on this request, officials called up 340 National Guardsmen to help in the peaceful protests. The guardsmen were assigned mainly to traffic control, Metro crowd control, some logistics support and a 40-member quick reaction force to be based at Joint Base Andrews in Maryland.

"No other requests were made," the Army secretary said. 

 In the midst of this tragedy, I was proud of the professionalism of our Department of Defense personnel. I want to specifically recognize the service of the District of Columbia National Guard.

But the peaceful protests turned into a mob r**ting through the halls, chambers and offices of the U.S. Capitol. At around 2 p.m., requests came from D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser for more assistance. Acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller immediately called up 1,100 members of the D.C. National Guard.

At the same time, officials were collecting guardsmen at traffic points and Metro stations and returning them to the D.C. Armory to refit for a crowd control mission, the secretary said. They were tasked to support D.C. Metropolitan Police and Capitol Hill Police.

Guardsmen started flowing into the area of the Capitol soon after and reinforced Metro Police on the perimeter of the Capitol. This allowed the police and FBI personnel to clear the chambers and offices of the U.S. Capitol, McCarthy said. "By 7:15, both chambers and leadership offices were cleared, and members were able to return to business, and we began the planning for the following day," he said.

At 6 p.m., acting Defense Secretary Miller authorized the mobilization of up to 6,200 National Guardsmen from Maryland, Virginia, New York, New Jersey, Delaware and Pennsylvania. These service members will flow into the city over the next few days and will help secure the peaceful t******r of p***r to President-elect Joseph Biden on January 20.

"Yesterday's violence at the Capitol was reprehensible and contrary to the tenets of the United States Constitution," Miller said in a written release from the Pentagon. "In the midst of this tragedy, I was proud of the professionalism of our Department of Defense personnel. I want to specifically recognize the service of the District of Columbia National Guard. They performed with honor, integrity and alacrity to protect people and property from unlawful acts."

 I strongly condemn these acts of violence against our democracy. I, and the people I lead in the Department of Defense, continue to perform our duties in accordance with our oath of office ..."

The DOD is in support of the Justice Department, which is the lead federal agency in this situation. They relied on estimates of the Metropolitan Police and Capitol Hill Police. Those organizations, which had experience with pro-Trump groups in November and December, believed the request they made for personnel was adequate. "We don't do domestic [intelligence] collection," Pentagon spokesman Hoffman said. "We rely on C*****l P****e and federal law enforcement to provide an assessment of the situation. And based on that assessment that they had, they believed they had sufficient personnel and did not make a request."

Estimates of the crowd size were all over the map, Rapuano said. 

Today, there are 741 National Guardsmen on the Capitol grounds. Guardsmen are also manning traffic checkpoints. They have also put up a non-scalable fence around the Capitol grounds. More guardsmen will arrive in the days ahead. 

"Our Republic may have been disrupted yesterday, but the resolve of our legislators to conduct the people's business did not waver," Miller wrote. "Due to their efforts, supported by local and federal law enforcement and the National Guard, the attempts of those who tried to stop our government from functioning failed. I strongly condemn these acts of violence against our democracy. I, and the people I lead in the Department of Defense, continue to perform our duties in accordance with our oath of office, and will execute the time-honored peaceful t***sition of power to President-elect Biden on January 20."
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