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Jan 2, 2021 12:44:49   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
There have been several posts lately in which the term "get it right in the camera" has been expressed. This seems to be expressed mostly by those who abhor processing.

Photography is and always will be a two-step process. The first being capturing the exposure. The second is processing that exposure to make a "print".

Those who rely on the 'in-camera' applications to produce a "print" are the equivalent of sending your film to a lab and having someone else do the work. These are the snapshot fans. Their main goal seems to be operating a shutter button.

The photographers, on the other hand, have an understanding of the mechanics of capturing the scene with the final "print" in mind and what it will take to achieve that "print". They understand the placement of tonal values and the process to achieve their visualization of the scene. Their "getting it right" is quite different.

So, here are a couple of examples of my "get it right in the camera". Each was taken with a different camera but the goal was the same, the final "print".
--Bob


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Jan 2, 2021 12:50:57   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Poking at a few folks today?

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Jan 2, 2021 12:51:59   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
rmalarz wrote:
There have been several posts lately in which the term "get it right in the camera" has been expressed. This seems to be expressed mostly by those who abhor processing.

Photography is and always will be a two-step process. The first being capturing the exposure. The second is processing that exposure to make a "print".

Those who rely on the 'in-camera' applications to produce a "print" are the equivalent of sending your film to a lab and having someone else do the work. These are the snapshot fans. Their main goal seems to be operating a shutter button.

The photographers, on the other hand, have an understanding of the mechanics of capturing the scene with the final "print" in mind and what it will take to achieve that "print". They understand the placement of tonal values and the process to achieve their visualization of the scene. Their "getting it right" is quite different.

So, here are a couple of examples of my "get it right in the camera". Each was taken with a different camera but the goal was the same, the final "print".
--Bob
There have been several posts lately in which the ... (show quote)


I'd bet that the people you refer to are also shooting everything as a jpeg so that they "can see the image as it actually was" with no processing. Each to his own I guess.
I agree with all of your points also.

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Jan 2, 2021 13:02:40   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
rmalarz wrote:
There have been several posts lately in which the term "get it right in the camera" has been expressed. This seems to be expressed mostly by those who abhor processing.

Photography is and always will be a two-step process. The first being capturing the exposure. The second is processing that exposure to make a "print".

Those who rely on the 'in-camera' applications to produce a "print" are the equivalent of sending your film to a lab and having someone else do the work. These are the snapshot fans. Their main goal seems to be operating a shutter button.

The photographers, on the other hand, have an understanding of the mechanics of capturing the scene with the final "print" in mind and what it will take to achieve that "print". They understand the placement of tonal values and the process to achieve their visualization of the scene. Their "getting it right" is quite different.

So, here are a couple of examples of my "get it right in the camera". Each was taken with a different camera but the goal was the same, the final "print".
--Bob
There have been several posts lately in which the ... (show quote)


Per your examples, getting it right in the camera apparently isn't for you - sitting endlessly in front of a computer polishing questionable photographic "jewels" isn't for me. Do I edit on occasion, sure, for possibly as much as a minute or two. Neither of our styles matters to anyone but each of us. Have a better one!

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Jan 2, 2021 13:03:27   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Well said, Bob.

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Jan 2, 2021 13:03:53   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
rmalarz wrote:
There have been several posts lately in which the term "get it right in the camera" has been expressed. This seems to be expressed mostly by those who abhor processing.

Photography is and always will be a two-step process. The first being capturing the exposure. The second is processing that exposure to make a "print".

Those who rely on the 'in-camera' applications to produce a "print" are the equivalent of sending your film to a lab and having someone else do the work. These are the snapshot fans. Their main goal seems to be operating a shutter button.

The photographers, on the other hand, have an understanding of the mechanics of capturing the scene with the final "print" in mind and what it will take to achieve that "print". They understand the placement of tonal values and the process to achieve their visualization of the scene. Their "getting it right" is quite different.

So, here are a couple of examples of my "get it right in the camera". Each was taken with a different camera but the goal was the same, the final "print".
--Bob
There have been several posts lately in which the ... (show quote)


I don’t abhor post processing, but I’d rather be doing other things than extensive image manipulation. I shoot in raw, but try to get as best I can out of camera so I can spend as little time as possible processing.
Also my photography philosophy is not to create the most beautiful image as can be made, but to capture what I’m photographing as it is in reality. The more processing, the less it resembles the actuality.

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Jan 2, 2021 13:05:07   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Jab Jab
--Bob
Rongnongno wrote:
Poking at a few folks today?

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Jan 2, 2021 13:07:26   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Au contraire, quixdraw. Those examples are precisely exposed to achieve what I wanted. So, they are 'right in the camera'.
--Bob
quixdraw wrote:
Per your examples, getting it right in the camera apparently isn't for you - sitting endlessly in front of a computer polishing questionable photographic "jewels" isn't for me. Do I edit on occasion, sure, for possibly as much as a minute or two. Neither of our styles matters to anyone but each of us. Have a better one!

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Jan 2, 2021 13:19:17   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Poking at a few folks today?


I really don’t think that this thread is intended to poke anyone.

When I started Photography in High School, there were no computers or software for post work. My teacher was rigorous in critique and to go back and get it right.

Now with the computer and software, photographers need not have that perfect set of circumstances. They can increase contrast, weaken shadows, increase warmth and create depth with little effort.
How you get the end results doesn’t really matter as long as you enjoy your craft.

While I don’t have any post production software, a lot of my work I am happy with. That which is sub par I prefer to delete. No body needs to see my goofs.

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Jan 2, 2021 13:20:26   #
cbtsam Loc: Monkton, MD
 
rmalarz wrote:
Au contraire, quixdraw. Those examples are precisely exposed to achieve what I wanted. So, they are 'right in the camera'.
--Bob


Well, then, I guess I'm even slower than I'd imagined, Bob, and I hope you'll help me out: what exactly is the point(s) you're making with your two images?

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Jan 2, 2021 13:21:11   #
JohnR Loc: The Gates of Hell
 
rmalarz wrote:
There have been several posts lately in which the term "get it right in the camera" has been expressed. This seems to be expressed mostly by those who abhor processing.

Photography is and always will be a two-step process. The first being capturing the exposure. The second is processing that exposure to make a "print".

Those who rely on the 'in-camera' applications to produce a "print" are the equivalent of sending your film to a lab and having someone else do the work. These are the snapshot fans. Their main goal seems to be operating a shutter button.

The photographers, on the other hand, have an understanding of the mechanics of capturing the scene with the final "print" in mind and what it will take to achieve that "print". They understand the placement of tonal values and the process to achieve their visualization of the scene. Their "getting it right" is quite different.

So, here are a couple of examples of my "get it right in the camera". Each was taken with a different camera but the goal was the same, the final "print".
--Bob
There have been several posts lately in which the ... (show quote)


A photographer is :- "a person who takes photographs, either as a job or hobby" (Dictionary definition) Therefore even snapshot fans are photographers. Many many people knowing nothing about photography or post processing take great photographs even with smart phones. If they and others are happy with their photographs then it matters not one jot how they got it.
Happy New Year. Cheers JohnR

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Jan 2, 2021 13:24:14   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I'll help you out in a little while.
--Bob
cbtsam wrote:
Well, then, I guess I'm even slower than I'd imagined, Bob, and I hope you'll help me out: what exactly is the point(s) you're making with your two images?

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Jan 2, 2021 13:25:17   #
BebuLamar
 
You should get it right in the camera so that you can post process the image to your liking.

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Jan 2, 2021 13:29:31   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Exactly!!!
--Bob
BebuLamar wrote:
You should get it right in the camera so that you can post process the image to your liking.

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Jan 2, 2021 13:40:52   #
one_eyed_pete Loc: Colonie NY
 
I rather think photographers are like bakers. Some bakers prefer to measure out the flour, sugar etc to create a cake and take pride in their result. Some prefer to open a box of ingredients someone else has formulated and a few even choose to add in something extra then bake the cake. Still others prefer to go to the bakery and buy a cake so they don't need to make any decisions. The good news is all can enjoy eating the cake in their own way.

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