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Dec 22, 2020 19:16:54   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
You should want the e******n investigated, for the health of the country.

12/21/20 by:
Michael Wilkerson, author of Stormwall: Observations on America in Peril, is Chief Executive Officer of Fairfax Africa, a publicly-listed company with a mandate to invest in high-quality African businesses.

On December 14th, the E*******l College of the United States convened and v**ed to confirm Joe Biden as president-elect of the United States, achieving a major milestone on the path to the Oval Office.

Around the same time, at least two national polls (CBS and FOX) came out indicating that the substantial majority of Republicans, and somewhere between 35% and 40% of all v**ers, believe that the e******n was s****n and should be contested. This represents over 60 million Americans. Half of Trump v**ers, and a quarter of all v**ers, believe that Trump should not concede. These statistics, and the convictions they represent, should be of serious concern to all Americans, whether Republican or Democrat, Trumpist, Never-Trumper, or the Moderate Middle.

Roughly three-quarters of Trump v**ers (and 25% of independent v**ers) believe that the e******n was systematically and criminally flawed–“stolen” as it was described in one of the polls. Cutting through all of it, the allegations take two forms: 1) traditional political-machine v**e-rigging in large cities in battleground states, a long history of which we’ve had in this country, and 2) software- and/or hardware- enabled through the v****g machines, a relative novelty for America, but experienced elsewhere around the world in this decade. This group comes to this startling conclusion from the sum total of what appears to them to be overwhelming evidence.

This evidence includes: hundreds of signed affidavits by Democrats, Republicans and Independents alike attesting (under oath and penalty of perjury) to witnessing various frauds; statistical analysis of the v****g pattern data in the wee hours showing impossible probabilities; unconstitutional last-minute changing of the rules of the game by certain states (the basis for the Texas plus 18 supporting states suit which SCOTUS ultimately declined to hear, arguing that Texas lacked standing); and potentially damning video evidence such as what was recorded on CCTV after hours in Atlanta and Detroit.

None of this is particularly evident to the casual observer. The large social media platforms and mainstream media are refusing to cover any of it, other than in the most arrogant, mocking and belittling of terms, carefully avoiding the substance of the arguments and instead writing about typos in lawsuits and sweaty hair dye. This is consistent with the strategy employed by these same media outlets in refusing to report on the criminal investigations into the Biden family’s alleged corruption with foreign powers … at least until after the e******ns.

This “denial of service attack” happened even though FBI investigations into H****r B***n were going on for nearly two years. There was a major break in the Biden family story in October from the New York Post, our nation’s oldest daily with one of its largest circulations. This bombshell was immediately blocked by Twitter and similarly buried elsewhere (imagine if the equivalent had anachronistically happened to the Washington Post during Watergate). The media’s rationale? The Russians did it. Obviously. That storyline was getting a bit old, and so the investigations are now being reported as accurate by these same media platforms. Conveniently, this volte-face only occurred several weeks after the e******ns, with most Americans unaware of the investigations when casting their b****ts.

How is this democracy, by the way, if the First Amendment is only selectively applied by those powerful interests with an oligopoly on our news, which hold the power to censor dissenting views? There is not even room for debate on these questions, as individuals and venerable institutions alike are booted from Twitter and Facebook for even daring to ask, “What exactly happened?”

Democrats should be equally interested in understanding what happened, if for no other reason than to de-bunk any falsehoods or unfounded conspiracies, and to regain some confidence and a legitimacy that is clearly missing now. E******n integrity is not a partisan matter. All Americans should want to know if there were systemic flaws in the e******ns, whether intentional or accidental, and take steps to improve the process before the 2022 e******n cycle.

This clarification could be aided by congressional hearings on the 2020 e******n process. This is happening to a limited degree at the state level in key battleground states, and the US Senate is holding hearings beginning this week. As Americans invested in the future of our democracy, we all have a shared interest in shining the full light of day on what happened. If there is nothing to hide, these Senators should be more than happy to confirm it, and to challenge those witnesses who say otherwise.

Mr. Biden has said, “it’s time to turn the page” and move on. This would be unwise even if it were possible. If these questions remain unanswered, and upwards of 40% of Americans believe that there was systemic fraud in the e******n process, the new Administration risks a lack of legitimacy from day one. This will seriously undermine any efforts, no matter how vigorous and sincere, to “build back better.”

The suggestion has been made that Americans will look past this contentious period and come together, much as we did following Bush v. Gore in 2000. I am much less confident that people will just “move on” this time around. Unless there is a willingness on the part of the legislature to have t***sparent hearings on the matter, I think we may yet have a real crisis on our hands. Lincoln’s famous recitation of the gospel quote, “A house divided against itself cannot stand,” remains just as applicable…and as urgent…for America today as it was on the eve of the Civil War.

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Dec 22, 2020 19:37:22   #
flathead27ford Loc: Colorado, North of Greeley
 
I agree, it should be investigated. But my fears are with anyone investigating. I don't trust anyone now a days. ☹

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Dec 22, 2020 19:39:29   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
You should want the e******n investigated, for the health of the country.

12/21/20 by:
Michael Wilkerson, author of Stormwall: Observations on America in Peril, is Chief Executive Officer of Fairfax Africa, a publicly-listed company with a mandate to invest in high-quality African businesses.

On December 14th, the E*******l College of the United States convened and v**ed to confirm Joe Biden as president-elect of the United States, achieving a major milestone on the path to the Oval Office.

Around the same time, at least two national polls (CBS and FOX) came out indicating that the substantial majority of Republicans, and somewhere between 35% and 40% of all v**ers, believe that the e******n was s****n and should be contested. This represents over 60 million Americans. Half of Trump v**ers, and a quarter of all v**ers, believe that Trump should not concede. These statistics, and the convictions they represent, should be of serious concern to all Americans, whether Republican or Democrat, Trumpist, Never-Trumper, or the Moderate Middle.

Roughly three-quarters of Trump v**ers (and 25% of independent v**ers) believe that the e******n was systematically and criminally flawed–“stolen” as it was described in one of the polls. Cutting through all of it, the allegations take two forms: 1) traditional political-machine v**e-rigging in large cities in battleground states, a long history of which we’ve had in this country, and 2) software- and/or hardware- enabled through the v****g machines, a relative novelty for America, but experienced elsewhere around the world in this decade. This group comes to this startling conclusion from the sum total of what appears to them to be overwhelming evidence.

This evidence includes: hundreds of signed affidavits by Democrats, Republicans and Independents alike attesting (under oath and penalty of perjury) to witnessing various frauds; statistical analysis of the v****g pattern data in the wee hours showing impossible probabilities; unconstitutional last-minute changing of the rules of the game by certain states (the basis for the Texas plus 18 supporting states suit which SCOTUS ultimately declined to hear, arguing that Texas lacked standing); and potentially damning video evidence such as what was recorded on CCTV after hours in Atlanta and Detroit.

None of this is particularly evident to the casual observer. The large social media platforms and mainstream media are refusing to cover any of it, other than in the most arrogant, mocking and belittling of terms, carefully avoiding the substance of the arguments and instead writing about typos in lawsuits and sweaty hair dye. This is consistent with the strategy employed by these same media outlets in refusing to report on the criminal investigations into the Biden family’s alleged corruption with foreign powers … at least until after the e******ns.

This “denial of service attack” happened even though FBI investigations into H****r B***n were going on for nearly two years. There was a major break in the Biden family story in October from the New York Post, our nation’s oldest daily with one of its largest circulations. This bombshell was immediately blocked by Twitter and similarly buried elsewhere (imagine if the equivalent had anachronistically happened to the Washington Post during Watergate). The media’s rationale? The Russians did it. Obviously. That storyline was getting a bit old, and so the investigations are now being reported as accurate by these same media platforms. Conveniently, this volte-face only occurred several weeks after the e******ns, with most Americans unaware of the investigations when casting their b****ts.

How is this democracy, by the way, if the First Amendment is only selectively applied by those powerful interests with an oligopoly on our news, which hold the power to censor dissenting views? There is not even room for debate on these questions, as individuals and venerable institutions alike are booted from Twitter and Facebook for even daring to ask, “What exactly happened?”

Democrats should be equally interested in understanding what happened, if for no other reason than to de-bunk any falsehoods or unfounded conspiracies, and to regain some confidence and a legitimacy that is clearly missing now. E******n integrity is not a partisan matter. All Americans should want to know if there were systemic flaws in the e******ns, whether intentional or accidental, and take steps to improve the process before the 2022 e******n cycle.

This clarification could be aided by congressional hearings on the 2020 e******n process. This is happening to a limited degree at the state level in key battleground states, and the US Senate is holding hearings beginning this week. As Americans invested in the future of our democracy, we all have a shared interest in shining the full light of day on what happened. If there is nothing to hide, these Senators should be more than happy to confirm it, and to challenge those witnesses who say otherwise.

Mr. Biden has said, “it’s time to turn the page” and move on. This would be unwise even if it were possible. If these questions remain unanswered, and upwards of 40% of Americans believe that there was systemic fraud in the e******n process, the new Administration risks a lack of legitimacy from day one. This will seriously undermine any efforts, no matter how vigorous and sincere, to “build back better.”

The suggestion has been made that Americans will look past this contentious period and come together, much as we did following Bush v. Gore in 2000. I am much less confident that people will just “move on” this time around. Unless there is a willingness on the part of the legislature to have t***sparent hearings on the matter, I think we may yet have a real crisis on our hands. Lincoln’s famous recitation of the gospel quote, “A house divided against itself cannot stand,” remains just as applicable…and as urgent…for America today as it was on the eve of the Civil War.
You should want the e******n investigated, for the... (show quote)


Is this one of your long-winded overrated original thoughts

or did you steal it from some far-right conspiracy site?

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Dec 22, 2020 20:22:06   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kraken wrote:
Is this one of your long-winded overrated original thoughts

or did you steal it from some far-right conspiracy site?


I gave attribution, but then again you probably don't know what that means.

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Dec 22, 2020 20:23:34   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I gave attribution, but then again you probably don't know what that means.


1
The act of attributing something.
2.
An explicit or formal acknowledgment of ownership or authorship.
3.
law A legal doctrine by which liability is extended to a defendant who did not actually commit the tortious or criminal act.

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Dec 22, 2020 20:25:46   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kraken wrote:
1
The act of attributing something.
2.
An explicit or formal acknowledgment of ownership or authorship.
3.
law A legal doctrine by which liability is extended to a defendant who did not actually commit the tortious or criminal act.


So then, why did you ask such a pointless question?

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Dec 22, 2020 20:27:44   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
So then, why did you ask such a pointless question?


That's your opinion.



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Dec 22, 2020 20:28:51   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kraken wrote:
That's your opinion.


Hey brain child, attribution is given at the introduction of the author's writing, what is your mental deficiency?

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Dec 22, 2020 23:38:39   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Keep it up maybe something will sink in. Ignorance is bliss.....

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Dec 23, 2020 02:23:47   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
flathead27ford wrote:
I agree, it should be investigated. But my fears are with anyone investigating. I don't trust anyone now a days. ☹


Sadly, that is a very true result of the Trump presidency -- t***h and trust have died.

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Dec 23, 2020 07:50:49   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Sadly, that is a very true result of the Trump presidency -- t***h and trust have died.


WTF do you know about t***h and trust? Your arrogance is astounding.

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Dec 23, 2020 07:54:04   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
WTF do you know about t***h and trust? You are an arrogant SOB.


Did somebody let the air out of your mattress last night? Take a pill.

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Dec 23, 2020 07:56:26   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kraken wrote:
Did somebody let the air out of your mattress last night? Take a pill.


Buy a camera. Or more importantly say something noteworthy.

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Dec 23, 2020 08:11:45   #
Carusoswi
 
Trump is the reason so many citizens (but mostly Republicans) have doubts about the e******n. Their mistrust is rooted not in evidence of fraud, but Trump's never ending chirping about how the e******n had to be r****d unless he won.

There is no evidence of fraud. Trump and his legal minions have presented absolutely none when they had the chance to do so in numerous court appearances. If they had evidence of fraud, they would have (or should have) presented. Instead, they fish for opportunities to seize machines and invalidate e******ns so that they can look for some way to validate their false claims of fraud.

Trump claimed that mail-in v****g would be fraudulent in those states in which he felt he would fail in his re-e******n attempt. His chirping only served to inspire e******n officials in all states to redouble their efforts to make certain that their e******ns were free of substantial fraud.

Now, having exhausted his "legal" attempts to overturn the e******n, he actually entertains invoking martial law. I suppose the OP can also justify that.

I am no liberal, but I have a long thorough knowledge of Trump and how he operates/what sort of person he is, and I can for certain tell you that I cannot stand him. His is the worst presidency in the history of the nation.

He absolutely detests anyone who has nothing to offer him personally.

It's time for him to go, and good riddance.

Caruso

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Dec 23, 2020 08:12:19   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
You should want the e******n investigated, for the health of the country.

12/21/20 by:
Michael Wilkerson, author of Stormwall: Observations on America in Peril, is Chief Executive Officer of Fairfax Africa, a publicly-listed company with a mandate to invest in high-quality African businesses.

On December 14th, the E*******l College of the United States convened and v**ed to confirm Joe Biden as president-elect of the United States, achieving a major milestone on the path to the Oval Office.

Around the same time, at least two national polls (CBS and FOX) came out indicating that the substantial majority of Republicans, and somewhere between 35% and 40% of all v**ers, believe that the e******n was s****n and should be contested. This represents over 60 million Americans. Half of Trump v**ers, and a quarter of all v**ers, believe that Trump should not concede. These statistics, and the convictions they represent, should be of serious concern to all Americans, whether Republican or Democrat, Trumpist, Never-Trumper, or the Moderate Middle.

Roughly three-quarters of Trump v**ers (and 25% of independent v**ers) believe that the e******n was systematically and criminally flawed–“stolen” as it was described in one of the polls. Cutting through all of it, the allegations take two forms: 1) traditional political-machine v**e-rigging in large cities in battleground states, a long history of which we’ve had in this country, and 2) software- and/or hardware- enabled through the v****g machines, a relative novelty for America, but experienced elsewhere around the world in this decade. This group comes to this startling conclusion from the sum total of what appears to them to be overwhelming evidence.

This evidence includes: hundreds of signed affidavits by Democrats, Republicans and Independents alike attesting (under oath and penalty of perjury) to witnessing various frauds; statistical analysis of the v****g pattern data in the wee hours showing impossible probabilities; unconstitutional last-minute changing of the rules of the game by certain states (the basis for the Texas plus 18 supporting states suit which SCOTUS ultimately declined to hear, arguing that Texas lacked standing); and potentially damning video evidence such as what was recorded on CCTV after hours in Atlanta and Detroit.

None of this is particularly evident to the casual observer. The large social media platforms and mainstream media are refusing to cover any of it, other than in the most arrogant, mocking and belittling of terms, carefully avoiding the substance of the arguments and instead writing about typos in lawsuits and sweaty hair dye. This is consistent with the strategy employed by these same media outlets in refusing to report on the criminal investigations into the Biden family’s alleged corruption with foreign powers … at least until after the e******ns.

This “denial of service attack” happened even though FBI investigations into H****r B***n were going on for nearly two years. There was a major break in the Biden family story in October from the New York Post, our nation’s oldest daily with one of its largest circulations. This bombshell was immediately blocked by Twitter and similarly buried elsewhere (imagine if the equivalent had anachronistically happened to the Washington Post during Watergate). The media’s rationale? The Russians did it. Obviously. That storyline was getting a bit old, and so the investigations are now being reported as accurate by these same media platforms. Conveniently, this volte-face only occurred several weeks after the e******ns, with most Americans unaware of the investigations when casting their b****ts.

How is this democracy, by the way, if the First Amendment is only selectively applied by those powerful interests with an oligopoly on our news, which hold the power to censor dissenting views? There is not even room for debate on these questions, as individuals and venerable institutions alike are booted from Twitter and Facebook for even daring to ask, “What exactly happened?”

Democrats should be equally interested in understanding what happened, if for no other reason than to de-bunk any falsehoods or unfounded conspiracies, and to regain some confidence and a legitimacy that is clearly missing now. E******n integrity is not a partisan matter. All Americans should want to know if there were systemic flaws in the e******ns, whether intentional or accidental, and take steps to improve the process before the 2022 e******n cycle.

This clarification could be aided by congressional hearings on the 2020 e******n process. This is happening to a limited degree at the state level in key battleground states, and the US Senate is holding hearings beginning this week. As Americans invested in the future of our democracy, we all have a shared interest in shining the full light of day on what happened. If there is nothing to hide, these Senators should be more than happy to confirm it, and to challenge those witnesses who say otherwise.

Mr. Biden has said, “it’s time to turn the page” and move on. This would be unwise even if it were possible. If these questions remain unanswered, and upwards of 40% of Americans believe that there was systemic fraud in the e******n process, the new Administration risks a lack of legitimacy from day one. This will seriously undermine any efforts, no matter how vigorous and sincere, to “build back better.”

The suggestion has been made that Americans will look past this contentious period and come together, much as we did following Bush v. Gore in 2000. I am much less confident that people will just “move on” this time around. Unless there is a willingness on the part of the legislature to have t***sparent hearings on the matter, I think we may yet have a real crisis on our hands. Lincoln’s famous recitation of the gospel quote, “A house divided against itself cannot stand,” remains just as applicable…and as urgent…for America today as it was on the eve of the Civil War.
You should want the e******n investigated, for the... (show quote)


https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/12/21/fox-news-newsmax-walk-back-e******n-f***d-claims-after-v****g-machine-manufacturer-threatens-legal-action/?sh=67497adfcfd2

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55413932

There are plenty more

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