Major NYC snow event
Dec 17, 2020 07:01:51 #
What a load of crap. We got 4 inches here in NYC. When will we learn that the media manufacturers news. I no longer am a lemming and don't watch them. They're still on TV this morning claiming how bad the snow is standing in 4 INCHES OF SNOW. When I was a kid (50 years ago) we got 12 inches + regularly and it WASN'T a news event.
Dec 17, 2020 07:07:35 #
Gasman57 wrote:
What a load of crap. We got 4 inches here in NYC. When will we learn that the media manufacturers news. I no longer am a lemming and don't watch them. They're still on TV this morning claiming how bad the snow is standing in 4 INCHES OF SNOW. When I was a kid (50 years ago) we got 12 inches + regularly and it WASN'T a news event.
At least it gives a break from the 24-7 updates on the Covid-19. I know the Covid-19 is a serious problem, I hope the vaccine gets us out from under the weight of this devastating virus.
Dec 17, 2020 07:25:53 #
5-7 inches here in Nassau, cold and windy, but no big deal...
The networks replaced "pandemic porn" with "blizzard porn"
The networks replaced "pandemic porn" with "blizzard porn"
Dec 17, 2020 07:45:56 #
Dec 17, 2020 07:49:33 #
Xanadu wrote:
My brother-in-law is near Binghamton, NY. He is guessing 3 feet plus.
That's expected, he's in the snow belt. Probably doesn't faze(?) the locals either. I wish him well.
Dec 17, 2020 07:51:31 #
I suppose they have to have something to talk about to keep their jobs secure. We had 2-3 inches here in central Indiana, and they called it a major snow event. If there’s a thunderstorm around with any chance of swirly winds involved, they take over the tv shows and report/track the storm ad nauseam when a trailer across the bottom of the screen would be sufficient. To top it off, they cannot correctly pronounce the word “temperature.” It’s like fingernails on a chalkboard to me when they say “tempachure.” There’s an “r”in the word, people!
Dec 17, 2020 08:27:47 #
It takes a solid half hour to get the weather report from the news outlets- you just have to watch a bunch of car commercials over and over and over and....
Then, they talk about the "feels like" temperature so they can have a lower temperature forecast than the other weather stations. I'll let you know what it feels like, I don't need some stuffed shirt standing in a snow bank telling me.
I don't even bother with the news anymore, I can get all the info I need from the radar on my phone.
How about the rolled up sleeves and loosened tie depending on the accumulation forecast? - the higher the sleeves, the more snow forecast.
Then, they talk about the "feels like" temperature so they can have a lower temperature forecast than the other weather stations. I'll let you know what it feels like, I don't need some stuffed shirt standing in a snow bank telling me.
I don't even bother with the news anymore, I can get all the info I need from the radar on my phone.
How about the rolled up sleeves and loosened tie depending on the accumulation forecast? - the higher the sleeves, the more snow forecast.
Dec 17, 2020 08:44:52 #
Dec 17, 2020 08:47:53 #
Same thing with hurricanes when I lived in Florida.
OMG we're all gonna die!
24/7 coverage, that is if one has power...
Snow - We'll get what we get when we get it.
Good to be prepared though, don't need sensationalism to be prepared.
(Maybe some do.....)
OMG we're all gonna die!
24/7 coverage, that is if one has power...
Snow - We'll get what we get when we get it.
Good to be prepared though, don't need sensationalism to be prepared.
(Maybe some do.....)
Dec 17, 2020 10:22:43 #
I really do not recall a snow event that exceeded the forecasts.
This one was supposed to give us 12-18". We got 8" (30 miles from NYC). The radar showed the rain/snow line right along the coast so I can believe that the city only got 4". The city generally has a bubble of high temperature anyway.
The depth of the snow is a fairly strong function of the temperature. High temperatures provide heavy wet snow that packs down much more than light snow in low temperatures. The heavy wet snow is more damaging since light winds can blow light fluffy snow off branches and power lines.
CYA is probably at work here. The weather forecasters have to predict the absolute worst case. Otherwise they will be accused of not preparing people for what actually happens. That applies to rain and wind as well as snow and ice. For the weather forecasters, it's a lose/lose situation. They will always be wrong, one way or another.
When I was working the farm I watched the weather pretty much continually, since it was important to me. Rain is a necessity for a farm and if nature doesn't supply it you have to supply it from your own resources. My farm was located about 30 miles east of a local mountain. That mountain seemed to split weather events coming from the west, so that we would have major rain storms in the area, but they would pass to the north of us and to the south of us and we would sometimes get absolutely nothing from them.
Forecasts are regional.
Weather is local.
This one was supposed to give us 12-18". We got 8" (30 miles from NYC). The radar showed the rain/snow line right along the coast so I can believe that the city only got 4". The city generally has a bubble of high temperature anyway.
The depth of the snow is a fairly strong function of the temperature. High temperatures provide heavy wet snow that packs down much more than light snow in low temperatures. The heavy wet snow is more damaging since light winds can blow light fluffy snow off branches and power lines.
CYA is probably at work here. The weather forecasters have to predict the absolute worst case. Otherwise they will be accused of not preparing people for what actually happens. That applies to rain and wind as well as snow and ice. For the weather forecasters, it's a lose/lose situation. They will always be wrong, one way or another.
When I was working the farm I watched the weather pretty much continually, since it was important to me. Rain is a necessity for a farm and if nature doesn't supply it you have to supply it from your own resources. My farm was located about 30 miles east of a local mountain. That mountain seemed to split weather events coming from the west, so that we would have major rain storms in the area, but they would pass to the north of us and to the south of us and we would sometimes get absolutely nothing from them.
Forecasts are regional.
Weather is local.
Dec 17, 2020 10:32:13 #
Winter of 70~71 had a 141 inches fall in Portland, ME - just another winter...
Dec 17, 2020 11:42:03 #
DirtFarmer wrote:
I really do not recall a snow event that exceeded the forecasts.
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That just proves they still can't second guess Mother Nature!
Dec 17, 2020 12:59:20 #
They were right about the hurricanes down here in La. Thought I do see your point - they are often overly dramatic.
Dec 18, 2020 06:20:11 #
The weather computer models are still not quite sophisticated enough to predict a 10 to 15 mile rain/snow line west to east shift as the center of the storm makes its 800 mile run up the east coast. Just a few miles to the east of New York City in NJ was all rain. 15 to 20 miles north west was 2 feet of snow with 3 1/2 feet miles a little farther to the north west.
The potential to save lives is too important to ignore the possibility of a major storm.
The potential to save lives is too important to ignore the possibility of a major storm.
Dec 18, 2020 06:20:22 #
pgerardi
Loc: Bethel Park, PA
Outside of Pittsburgh here they called for 4-6 inches we got 12. Safe to say meteorologists & pollsters are allowed the same margin of error. In accounting I certainly am not afforded that luxury.
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