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Dec 13, 2020 10:24:25   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
I am using a mirrorless camera. When I shoot landscapes on a tripod, I use the 3 second timer function to avoid vibration. I have seen several videos that suggest the Exposure Delay Mode should be used. Can anyone explain the difference between the Self Timer Mode and the Exposure Delay Mode?

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Dec 13, 2020 10:32:36   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
gorgehiker wrote:
I am using a mirrorless camera. When I shoot landscapes on a tripod, I use the 3 second timer function to avoid vibration. I have seen several videos that suggest the Exposure Delay Mode should be used. Can anyone explain the difference between the Self Timer Mode and the Exposure Delay Mode?


Exposure-delay mode can be thought of as an automatic shutter release that takes place a set time after the mirror has been raised. The Electronic Front-Curtain Shutter. The electronic front-curtain shutter starts the exposure without engaging the mechanical (front-curtain) shutter.

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Dec 13, 2020 10:33:35   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
Aren't they the same thing?.

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Dec 13, 2020 10:35:59   #
Paul J. Svetlik Loc: Colorado
 
Exactly the same thing gorgehiker.
No difference. You can also use a more convenient electronic wire to trigger the release.
Cheers!

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Dec 13, 2020 10:36:30   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
repleo wrote:
Aren't they the same thing?.


The timer trips the shutter after a few seconds. The Exposure Delay waits a few seconds before tripping the shutter.

I certainly hope they're the same thing. Do we need any more minor distinctions in photography?

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Dec 13, 2020 10:41:34   #
Soul Dr. Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley
 
Paul J. Svetlik wrote:
Exactly the same thing gorgehiker.
No difference. You can also use a more convenient electronic wire to trigger the release.
Cheers!


No, they are not the same thing.

https://vuegraphy.com/difference-between-timer-and-exposure-delay/

And exposure delay does not pertain to OP's question as he said he has a mirrorless camera, so no need for exposure delay as there is no mirror to lock up.

will

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Dec 13, 2020 10:45:52   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Soul Dr. wrote:
...exposure delay does not pertain to OP's question as he said he has a mirrorless camera, so no need for exposure delay as there is no mirror to lock up.
Vibration can occur when depressing the shutter button, so using the timer is handy for that - especially with exposures of more than one second.

I've done that with my Panasonic M4/3 while it was on a flimsy tripod

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Dec 13, 2020 10:46:00   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
gorgehiker wrote:
I am using a mirrorless camera. When I shoot landscapes on a tripod, I use the 3 second timer function to avoid vibration. I have seen several videos that suggest the Exposure Delay Mode should be used. Can anyone explain the difference between the Self Timer Mode and the Exposure Delay Mode?


You might want to look for articles about the effects of shutter-opening length and camera vibration. There is a point at which shutter timing produces less vibration or the vibration doesn't matter. As I said, it's worth a reading. I'm going to see what I can find. I couldn't find what I wanted, but there is a point in low shutter speeds where a lower speed is less of a concern for vibration.

http://digital-photography-school.com/8-steps-to-great-long-exposure-landscapes/

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Dec 13, 2020 10:50:23   #
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gorgehiker wrote:
I am using a mirrorless camera. When I shoot landscapes on a tripod, I use the 3 second timer function to avoid vibration. I have seen several videos that suggest the Exposure Delay Mode should be used. Can anyone explain the difference between the Self Timer Mode and the Exposure Delay Mode?

Delay mode may be helpful on a tripod but it’s greatest benefit is handheld shots aided by image stabilization. You lose the finger action tremor and the delay also allows the IS to settle down.

Anywhere from 1/4 to full second should work, depending on shutter speed, FL, and your own abilities and technique.

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Dec 13, 2020 11:45:48   #
bleirer
 
gorgehiker wrote:
I am using a mirrorless camera. When I shoot landscapes on a tripod, I use the 3 second timer function to avoid vibration. I have seen several videos that suggest the Exposure Delay Mode should be used. Can anyone explain the difference between the Self Timer Mode and the Exposure Delay Mode?


What camera do you have? I see how it makes sense if there is a mirror: press the shutter, the mirrors slaps up, wait a moment to settle vibration, the shutter opens and closes, mirror slaps down.

But you said mirrorless, which model? if it has exposure delay mode it must work differently. My mirrorless doesn't have that feature, but mine is strictly electronic first curtain, so the only vibration would be shutter closing. Mine has 2 second delay, but I assume that is to settle vibration of pushing the shutter button.

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Dec 13, 2020 12:23:09   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
gorgehiker wrote:
I am using a mirrorless camera. When I shoot landscapes on a tripod, I use the 3 second timer function to avoid vibration. I have seen several videos that suggest the Exposure Delay Mode should be used. Can anyone explain the difference between the Self Timer Mode and the Exposure Delay Mode?


On a mirrorless camera, the 3 sec timer won't help vibration, but the electronic first curtain shutter will. Self timer usually gives you a wider range of shutter delay times, mimicking the old film camera delay at the long end so that the photographer can join the subjects. Exposure Delay is likely similar, but can be different depending on what camera you have.

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Dec 13, 2020 16:06:41   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
bleirer wrote:
What camera do you have? I see how it makes sense if there is a mirror: press the shutter, the mirrors slaps up, wait a moment to settle vibration, the shutter opens and closes, mirror slaps down.

But you said mirrorless, which model? if it has exposure delay mode it must work differently. My mirrorless doesn't have that feature, but mine is strictly electronic first curtain, so the only vibration would be shutter closing. Mine has 2 second delay, but I assume that is to settle vibration of pushing the shutter button.
What camera do you have? I see how it makes sense ... (show quote)


I just received my Nikon Z7ii. I really like it already, but I am not sure about the proper choices for some of the settings. Thanks to everyone who has responded!

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Dec 13, 2020 17:34:31   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
Soul Dr. wrote:
No, they are not the same thing.

https://vuegraphy.com/difference-between-timer-and-exposure-delay/

And exposure delay does not pertain to OP's question as he said he has a mirrorless camera, so no need for exposure delay as there is no mirror to lock up.

will


Good link. I am strictly mirrorless, so mirror slap is not something I have had to deal with.

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Dec 13, 2020 17:46:52   #
bleirer
 
Curiousity got the better of me. I found this video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miamuqykWzk
and this explanation here: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4401140

"Self-timer will wait and after the delay behave as if you pressed the shutter button. That means locking in focus and exposure, as well as stopping down the aperture if lower than 5.6 or so. This is a mechanical operation and may cause vibration, especially with the FTZ adapter and non-E lenses (i.e. with mechanical aperture lever).

Exposure delay just delays the release of the shutter. All the other steps are done when you press the shutter. Since the aperture closes earlier, it eliminates vibration from closing down the aperture."

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Dec 13, 2020 20:25:11   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
After looking at the replies and the links, I have decided to use exposure delay mode instead of self timer. Tanks for all your help!

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