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Oct 2, 2012 16:00:23   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
Dave S wrote:
Wow! Had I a dollar for every time I've heard that (....said that), I could afford my next newest latest and greatest. :roll:

An addiction is an addiction, no matter how you slice it!


Can't tell you you're talking to. Try "Quote Reply" so your reference is included and it'll make more sense to everyone.

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Oct 2, 2012 16:13:45   #
Dave S Loc: SW Iowa
 
oldmalky wrote:
I made my mind up when i bought my a57 that i will buy no more and i intend to stay out of the rat race.


Wow! Had I a dollar for every time I've heard that (....said that), I could afford my next newest latest and greatest.

An addiction is an addiction, no matter how you slice it!

(There...how's that?! I thought I'd included the quote with the first post...till I read on the forum. Have to remember to use the preview.)

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Oct 2, 2012 16:19:33   #
DougW Loc: SoCal
 
Ah! Digital kool-aide, more please! ;-)

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Oct 2, 2012 16:24:53   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
Dave S wrote:
oldmalky wrote:
I made my mind up when i bought my a57 that i will buy no more and i intend to stay out of the rat race.


Wow! Had I a dollar for every time I've heard that (....said that), I could afford my next newest latest and greatest.

An addiction is an addiction, no matter how you slice it!

(There...how's that?! I thought I'd included the quote with the first post...till I read on the forum. Have to remember to use the preview.)


Wonderful. Thanks.
:-)

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Oct 2, 2012 16:56:09   #
BigD Loc: The LEFT Coast
 
PrairieSeasons wrote:
oldmalky wrote:
I made my mind up when i bought my a57 that i will buy no more and i intend to stay out of the rat race.


I made the same decision when I bought my D90.

Then made it again when I bought my D300S.

Now just made it again when I bought my D600.


HaHaHaHa exactly
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Oct 2, 2012 17:04:48   #
Doug B Loc: Edmonton Alberta
 
I did the same thing with a D50,D200,D300 and now a D700. Everytime I bought one they were discontinued shortly after. While I love photography, I agree it can become an addiction. I now find myself downsizing as I am now looking at it as a relaxing hobby rather than something I want to do to make money from. At my age I think my D700 will serve me for the rest of my days.

I remember someone once saying that the only way you can make money from photography is to sell your camera and now I am not sure that is true:-)

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Oct 2, 2012 17:06:10   #
PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North
 
Do you know the difference between a professional photographer and a large pizza?

A large pizza can feed a family of four.

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Oct 2, 2012 17:44:27   #
dragonfist Loc: Stafford, N.Y.
 
gessman wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
It's all a matter of "planned obsolescence" on the part of the camera makers. It's their way of staying in business


Yes, and it is also up to us what kind of life we want to have. It all depends where you want to be on the spectrum of life. As it happens I do not perceive myself to have any artistic abilities with anything. I'm intrigued as much by the mechanism and what it can allow me to do as anything else. While I have learned a little bit about composition and lighting, most of my interests in shooting is with subjects where those things are not a consideration, things that move and not always when the light is good. I am not at all sure I fully understand the whole concept of art as it is associated with a camera. I therefore question a lot of the talk about photography being art. I just don't get that.

I am as interested in the tech aspects about cameras, and computers, as I am about what comes out of them. I am also, at 75, not wishing to be hung up at a particular point in my life, am not still listening to Elvis, driving a '50 Mercury with a Minolta Hi-Matic fixed 45mm lens rangefinder on the seat beside me while trying to pull out into today's freeway traffic on the way to shoot a football game and then a wedding.

Just go to sleep with your 5D3 or D800 and wake up in a few years and you'll be disoriented and may not be able to overcome it. Oh yow, you'll still get you some really good pictures but will you really when everyone else is shooting holograms and projecting them onto the sides of 100 story buildings made of some material we have yet to discover. You snooze, you lose. You lock yourself into a particular place and refuse to budge, somebody'll move soon enough, maybe in a front loader, you and your 5D3, your Mercury, your Minolta, and all. How artistic will you look then?

Not many of us will make a mark in the art world with a camera. And as much as I bristle every time I hear the name and the analogy of the camera and the stove, look where Ansel Adams is - yep, he made his mark and with regard to the whole idea of the world of art, his most magnificent work is relegated to a few obscure back alley galleries around the country and they are mostly shabby affairs not fit to be associated with the art world. No amount of semantics will elevate a photograph to the level of a Mona Lisa or a Starry Nights. I don't even say the word 'art' when talking about photography but I'm still not going to be talked into freezing up at some point in my life and staying there for the rest of it. So, that's where I am on the spectrum. Not interested, you say. It goes both ways.

How's that for a new can of worms? :-)
quote=Screamin Scott It's all a matter of "p... (show quote)


To each his own. I can understand your point of view as well as I can that of the person to whom the end result means more than the equipment used to get it. I can admire a person that can really make a photo better with a good editing program as well as the person that can make a good daguerrotype or ambrotype. We are all in this for a reason and for most of us it isn't to make money but to have fun. I don't think there is a right or wrong, just different ways of finding satisfaction.

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Oct 2, 2012 17:48:28   #
deej
 
PrairieSeasons wrote:
oldmalky wrote:
I made my mind up when i bought my a57 that i will buy no more and i intend to stay out of the rat race.


I made the same decision when I bought my D90.

Then made it again when I bought my D300S.

Now just made it again when I bought my D600.


Yeah, but it she seems reasonable the way you did it!?,! :thumbup:

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Oct 2, 2012 18:39:27   #
Old Timer Loc: Greenfield, In.
 
I bought the second camera body just like my other so all controls and settings would be familiar to me and not confuse this old brain to much. I then watched craigs list and came across two good lens that would cover my needs and bought them. The lens I believe improved my picture more than any new body would with the money I invested. The Canon 300 L lens help more than any thing I have ever invested in, and after using the Tamron 18-270 and learning its limitations I am now satisfied with it for the time being. I still have not reach my limit with the camera in two years.
I have take the advice offered here and else where to invest in the glass, good advice.

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Oct 2, 2012 19:49:20   #
coastlawyer Loc: Coastal Mississippi
 
Doug B wrote:
It seem like a rat race if you want to keep up with the latest camera. As a Nikon user I find it frustating how many new models they are bringing out at the present time. I personally have given up trying to keep up. It also knocks the hell out of getting a fair price for your camera when you go to sell when in a few months you find yourself back 2 or 3 models. What do you think?


Makes a full bag of backup cameras.

What should be a real consideration:

The megapixel race is a distraction from a major deficit of sensor-processor that will produce a HDR equal to 35 mm negative film.

Richard Miller

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Oct 2, 2012 19:50:37   #
Macbadger Loc: Illinois
 
I have always heard, including on UHH, that the place to put your money is in good glass, and let the body serve you a long time as long as it is doing what you want. I see no reason to deviate from that philosophy.

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Oct 2, 2012 20:04:47   #
zneb240 Loc: New South Wales - Australia
 
CaptainC wrote:
It is the way it is . Since these things are really microprocessors with some glass attached, they follow the same power for dollar curve as computers. I find it unnecessary to "keep up," although I understand the urge to do so. I will probably get the D800 next year when Apple comes out with a desktop machine with the next generation processor, but I have to tell you my D3 (12MP) and D7000 produce fantastic images. In fact, the D3 can do things the D800 cannot do. If your camera made great images when you bought it and it still makes those images today, it is hardly obsolete. When it can no longer produce the images you need, THEN a new unit might be needed.
It is the way it is . Since these things are real... (show quote)


Spot on Captain - couldn't agree more. My D300 is still producing images just as good as the day I purchased it. Like many folks, I've used the race to keep up to my advantage - I bought a second D300 for next to nothing from a gentleman who was locked into a battle with friends to have the latest and biggest. It turned out to be a later version than my original D300 and had only 2,000 shutter clicks!.
I had a stroke 3 years ago and now have fumble fingers, so two bodies means the convenience of less lens changing particularly in dusty environments without spending squillions on two of the latest.
Like the Captain, I too will upgrade to a D800 but I'll wait for the release of the Nikon D900++ss (or whatever). Then I'll buy two D800s at the $2 shop (along with a computer)!

Who was it that once observed "it's not the size of your equipment - but how you use it"?

Nikon D300 (12 mp)
Nikon D300 (12 mp)...

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Oct 2, 2012 22:39:35   #
JoeDesertrat Loc: Daytona Beach, FL
 
Instead of thinking about upgrading the camera every few years, look at lenses instead. I find I'm limited more by what my lens can't do than by what my camera can't do. I'm slowly adding to my collection and as I learn to use each one I learn where I still have things I can't do, or could do better if I had a lens better suited. Face it, no matter how much research you do before you buy your camera, as soon as you buy it they will release a better model. When you do finally decide you have to upgrade your camera, if you stay in the same family your lenses will still work with the new camera.

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Oct 3, 2012 06:20:14   #
Dun1 Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
The best advice I can give is find a body you like, and can use, unless you have the winning validated lottery ticket or a deep camera budget pockets if will be difficult to "keep up" with the latest and greats camera. Both Nikon and Canon have cycles so to speak for different levels of camera bodies. Point and shoot upgrades take place at a faster pace than the entry level DSLRS. The mid range or pro-sumer bodies cycle occurs at a slower pace than the point and shoot. The top level or Pro Bodies upgrades are by far the slowest. A good majority of the time these body upgrades take place because of introduction of new bodies by competition.
Some of the upgrades are geared to take place during photo shows, i.e. Photokina etc.
As Capn C said you upgrade depending on what your current camera body can do for you. When a camera body no longer does not have the capability to capture the images you want then that is the time to consider replacement.
If you invest in good quality lenses you will find they depreciate less quickly then camera bodies.

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