There are several of us who wish to give a youngish father and grandfather, an experienced amateur photographer who travels (until covid-19) world-wide, a camera that he could, but would not buy for himself, for a big birthday. He is a street photographer primarily, but shoots animals (safari), birds, landscapes, sunsets...well, you get the idea.
I am in charge. I use Oly 4/3s and a Sony RX100 vi. He has admired the downsizing.
He has older Nikons and Canons, and has talked about, and looked at my smaller, mirrorless cameras. He would manage any learning curve.
In order to look efficient, I need to present to the parents and cousins a price no object mirrorless camera and lens (together we can afford it; whether we would spend...there's the rub)!
Then I need suggestions for something that tops out in the 5-6K region.
Please do not do any researching for me. Just think of your wish lists.
Thanks.
daldds wrote:
There are several of us who wish to give a youngish father and grandfather, an experienced amateur photographer who travels (until covid-19) world-wide, a camera that he could, but would not buy for himself, for a big birthday. He is a street photographer primarily, but shoots animals (safari), birds, landscapes, sunsets...well, you get the idea.
I am in charge. I use Oly 4/3s and a Sony RX100 vi. He has admired the downsizing.
He has older Nikons and Canons, and has talked about, and looked at my smaller, mirrorless cameras. He would manage any learning curve.
In order to look efficient, I need to present to the parents and cousins a price no object mirrorless camera and lens (together we can afford it; whether we would spend...there's the rub)!
Then I need suggestions for something that tops out in the 5-6K region.
Please do not do any researching for me. Just think of your wish lists.
Thanks.
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Can't be my wish list because I dream of heavy camera not down sizing.
quixdraw wrote:
Leica Q 2 for the street
For sure. “Price no object” means look first at Leica.
An important element from the OP is that the recipient tends to NOT indulge himself, so all indulgence must be included in this one-time large budget.
IOW an M-Leica would be wrong cuz it would blow the whole one-time budget on a minimal kit that would prove very pricey to expand upon later.
So yes do consider Leica first but then beyond the self contained street camera my wish list leans toward reality, not just wishing. Thaz becuz I really love M43 and M43 just happens to be so affordable that my own M43 kit isn’t too awfully far below “cost no object”.
If I were not on a modest income my Mark 2 bodies would be Mark 3, and my very adequate lenses would be of the more premium variety. With M43 the f:2.8 zooms and the safari length tele are transportable without a Sherpa, the only burden being price.
$5 to 6K buys an OMD mark 3, an f:2.8 midrange zoom, a safari lens, a pancake prime, and a wide prime. Thaz my wish list. It’s not pie in the sky, but just some upgrading of what I already use. And if the user seeks to add something later on, it won’t cost a kidney.
It’s intentional that I didn’t specify whether the OMD is an EM-1 or an EM-5, or whether the safari lens is prime or zoom. It’s a wish list, not a grocery shopping list. I don’t personally NEED to upgrade so I’m not really “feeling it” about the exact details.
My wish list is a Sinar P3
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daldds wrote:
There are several of us who wish to give a youngish father and grandfather, an experienced amateur photographer who travels (until covid-19) world-wide, a camera that he could, but would not buy for himself, for a big birthday. He is a street photographer primarily, but shoots animals (safari), birds, landscapes, sunsets...well, you get the idea.
I am in charge. I use Oly 4/3s and a Sony RX100 vi. He has admired the downsizing.
He has older Nikons and Canons, and has talked about, and looked at my smaller, mirrorless cameras. He would manage any learning curve.
In order to look efficient, I need to present to the parents and cousins a price no object mirrorless camera and lens (together we can afford it; whether we would spend...there's the rub)!
Then I need suggestions for something that tops out in the 5-6K region.
Please do not do any researching for me. Just think of your wish lists.
Thanks.
There are several of us who wish to give a youngis... (
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Leica M10-R or Leica M10 Monochrome.
If that’s more than you want to spend—Fujifilm X100V.
BebuLamar wrote:
Can't be my wish list because I dream of heavy camera not down sizing.
For what it is worth, I like a camera that has some bulk to it. My hard worker is a Canon 5D Mark IV.
It’s a beast of a camera but we like each other and get along together. The other day I picked up a Canon-1v HS. I want to get back in to experimenting with film. When my daughter (also an occasional hobbyist) saw that camera, she said “Be careful, you can kill someone with that”
One of the Hi-End medium format 100mp digitals and a new computer to handle the huge files!
The best "price no object" is the Leica M10-R with whatever selection of Leica lenses you want.
The best option under $5K is the Leica Q2. I've had the Q2 for a few months now, and it seems to me to be the perfect travel camera.
Note: Demand for the Q2 has been so high they are hard to find right now. The Leica stores (esp. in Miami and D.C.) seem to be receiving them more regularly than other retail outlets lately.
Much more modest budget - small body with full frame 24MB sensor and super-fast focusing- Sony A7c. Sony has stacks of lenses - a 20mm, a 50 and an 85 + a decent zoom could all fit into a 5k budget, with some left over if you do the "Boxing Day" thing.
OK, Hogs, the day is over. Thanks for all the input.
Stay healthy and smart until we get the vaccines.
One classy, light-weight camera for "street, birds, landscapes"?? One clue would be his "older" Nikons and Canons. Is that as in, film? Or 5 year-old-digital FF? Leica, of course says, "no expense spared", but in a practical sense? Bearing in mind, birds need the latest eye-focus & 500mm lens. Landscapes? HDR & large sensor. Street? Compact, fast shooting. Almost hate to say it, but your 2-camera kit looks like what would serve him best...
daldds wrote:
OK, Hogs, the day is over. Thanks for all the input.
Stay healthy and smart until we get the vaccines.
Not sure I would consider Olympus because of their dim future under JIP pwnership
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