Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX

Just published 4d ago, reported by Medscape (on line) yesterday.
http://mbio.asm.org/content/11/6/e02628-20
The measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine has been theorized to provide protection against coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). There was a significant inverse correlation (rs = −0.71, P < 0.001) between mumps antibody titers (mumps titers) and COVID-19 severity within the MMR II group (the more antibodies you have, the less severe your Covid Disease).
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Those born in or after 1957 can go to any pharmacy and request it.
If you were born before 1957 - for some reason you need an MD Rx for it. You could probably ask your MD to phone it in for you?
The CDC provides a list of those people who shouldn’t get the MMR vaccine. It includes people who:
have had a severe or life-threatening allergic reaction to neomycin or another component of the vaccine
have had a serious reaction to a past dose of MMR or MMRV (measles, mumps, rubella, and varicella)
have cancer or are receiving cancer treatments that weaken the immune system
have HIV, AIDS, or another immune system disorder
are receiving any medications that affect the immune system, such as steroids
have tuberculosis
In addition, you may want to delay vaccination if you:
currently have a moderate-to-severe illness
are pregnant
have recently had a blood transfusion or have had a condition that makes you bleed or bruise easily
have received another vaccine in the last four weeks
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?? Perhaps this is why Kids have been relatively spared ? They are mostly ALL up to date on their immunizations, including MMR. My wife, 94 YO mother and I got an MMR-II booster - today.
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My thoughts why it might work:
Your circulating Mumps antibodies somehow recognize Covid virus particles and defend against it - but those levels slowly decline with time. If it was more than 14 years ago, your antibody level has likely faded into oblivion - and although you MAY still have a T-Cell response to Measles, Mumps, and Rubella, sufficient to recreate the antibodies needed to prevent you from getting any of those, that is not what this is about. The important factor is your actual Mumps Antibody Titer - which Covid will not stimulate - the mumps antibodies must already be present at a high enough level in your system to cross-react with any Covid that gains entry to you. After more than 14 years, your mumps antibody levels are likely Zilch. Getting a new MMR-II should boost those antibodies well above the threshold.
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This may also explain why kids are relatively spared from Covid - as most of their immunizations including MMR are up to date.
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Sure - - a Covid vaccine may be available to us low-importance civilians “real soon now” - but for me, I’ll NOT be taking the vaccine from Moderna or Pfizer due to how they work by hijacking your own skin cells to produce viral antigen particles - but will wait for vaccine from Johnson & Johnson, or Astra Zenica which use tried and true methods.

pmorin Loc: Huntington Beach, Palm Springs

Could you please reference your sources?

Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX

I did. Second line contains the link.
http://mbio.asm.org/content/11/6/e02628-20
You can google the MMR cautions at the CDC. The 'thoughts' are my own - but as a physician who has been endowed with 'clinical judgement', I can post my thoughts provided they are identified as my own. Of course YMMV.
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mRNA mechanism risks:
http://www.jpost.com/health-science/could-an-mrna-vaccine-be-dangerous-in-the-long-term-649253
http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2015/rna-vaccines-a-novel-technology-to-prevent-and-treat-disease/
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One point I forgot to mention - that the researchers found a 'dose/response' relationship between increasing mumps antibody titers and decreasing Covid severity - to me - lends credibility to the finding.
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Also complicating the Moderna and Pfizer RNA mechanisms is their vaccine must be stored at -70 degrees. NOT very accommodating for third world nations.
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The reference article at mbio.asm.org to me is a beacon in the darkness. If true - many could be spared. If not true - considering no real risk, and minimal financial cost - I have no problems with that either. What 'cha gonna do when Covid comes for you ?

pmorin Loc: Huntington Beach, Palm Springs

Thank you

Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX

YW - - Stay safe out there !!

IDguy Loc: Idaho

Anyone who doesn’t take the Covid vaccine has thinking problems and is a hazard to the rest of us.

jimvanells Loc: Augusta, GA

You cannot just go to the pharmacy and get an MMR immunization. They require a doctors prescription and most doctors will not provide one. I asked and was truned down on both counts. Wait for the Covid one.

sabfish

You are incorrect regarding the temperature that the Moderna vaccine needs to be stored. It can be stored at -20 C versus the Pfizer that needs to be stored at -70C
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/11/17/935563377/why-does-pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-need-to-be-kept-colder-than-antarctica

jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska

What do you mean by "tried and true methods"? Primary cell cultures and cell lines have been used for vaccine production since the '50s or even earlier.

Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX

If you were born before 1957, THEN you will need an MD Rx - as stated in my original post. If you were born in 1957 or after, you should be able to simply request one at the pharmacy on a walk-in basis. Some states may certainly have more restrictions.
I recommend you 'educate' your LMD by showing him/her the PDF referenced in my original post. You should contact your pharmacy for clarification of the rules in your state.

Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX

Picky Picky Picky - but OK - I stand corrected. Still much more complicated than a standard lyophilized vaccine - IMHO those requiring such cold temperatures for storage are unlikely to see widespread use in underdeveloped countries.

Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX

Please see my second post at the top of this thread.
http://www.jpost.com/health-science/could-an-mrna-vaccine-be-dangerous-in-the-long-term-649253
Both the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines use an mRNA process to essentially hijack your cells to produce the antigenic particles of Covid-19 - a new technique for which there is no track record for possible long-term adverse effects.

chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand

Why not look at the new vaccine developed at Oxford (in England) that can be stored for 6 months in a standard fridge ? And costs about $6.

Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX

Please see my original post: "but {I} will wait for vaccine from Johnson & Johnson, or Astra Zenica"
Astra Zenica is working with Oxford on their vaccine.
https://theconversation.com/why-the-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-is-now-a-global-gamechanger-150660

tomad Loc: North Carolina

What if I had both measles and mumps as a child... will this help me?