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Nov 22, 2020 19:39:02   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
While I was only the makeup artist and light assistant on this session I believe it is appropriate and germane since the photographer in responsible charge is one of my cherished mentors... much of my visual statement has evolved from time on set with her...

Important Caveat: This "Glitter" was ophthalmology approved makeup for use around the sensitive eye area. Never use non-ophthalmology approved product around the eyes!
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Canon EOS 5D Mark II; Lens: EF 24-105mm f/4 L (at f/9)
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Nov 23, 2020 06:25:54   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
While it is a very sharp picture with the pp work that has been done I feel there is no character in her face due to no lines at all and skin like a plastic doll. She is a lovely looking girl but I like to see a natural looking skin with lines which everyone has got even if it is just laughter lines. You do great portraits Thomas but this to me is like a plastic mannequin with a wig on...

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Nov 23, 2020 08:16:39   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
I like it.

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Nov 23, 2020 08:59:03   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
What a captivating ethereal image Thomas - well done!

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Nov 23, 2020 09:56:32   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
Thank you for taking the time to review and reflect Val... And I totally agree that here the post production was a tad on the extreme end of the spectrum... Guess you didn't read my post in which I explained I'm guilty only of the makeup artistry and illumination... The photographer actually brought her commercial retoucher into the mix here... She was apparently focused on meeting client expectations... i.e. Beauty is in the eyes of the checkbook holder...

That said the model did have absolutely flawless skin (an agency Beauty Genre model)... and I was instructed to create a "Porcelain Doll" makeup look... What you likely don't understand is with heavy cream makeup product it is rather easy to create surreal glass like skin... Here I used RCMA Cream VK Palette #11 in "Porcelain" which I've also used occasionally on brides for evening high end events... with this product I can easily "spackle" over any irregularities in skin texture... think "Stage Makeup" here...

Least you feel cheated by aggressive PP then below is an image I used in my makeup portfolio... This is actually very close to the reality of the moment... hope this helps to belay you concerns Val... Please keep in mind that your lovely country employs MUA's like me in MI6... We can transform faces completely!
All the best on your journey Val.
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RCMA Cream Foundation VK Palette #11 in "Porcelain"
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Nov 23, 2020 09:59:35   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
Thank you for your kind words John... I kind of likely it to... lol
And most importantly so did the client!

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Nov 23, 2020 10:04:36   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
Bill you are way too kind... I deeply appreciate those beautiful words...
And thank you for your continued support!
All the best on your journey...

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Nov 23, 2020 11:47:41   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
Thomas902 wrote:
Thank you for taking the time to review and reflect Val... And I totally agree that here the post production was a tad on the extreme end of the spectrum... Guess you didn't read my post in which I explained I'm guilty only of the makeup artistry and illumination... The photographer actually brought her commercial retoucher into the mix here... She was apparently focused on meeting client expectations... i.e. Beauty is in the eyes of the checkbook holder...

That said the model did have absolutely flawless skin (an agency Beauty Genre model)... and I was instructed to create a "Porcelain Doll" makeup look... What you likely don't understand is with heavy cream makeup product it is rather easy to create surreal glass like skin... Here I used RCMA Cream VK Palette #11 in "Porcelain" which I've also used occasionally on brides for evening high end events... with this product I can easily "spackle" over any irregularities in skin texture... think "Stage Makeup" here...

Least you feel cheated by aggressive PP then below is an image I used in my makeup portfolio... This is actually very close to the reality of the moment... hope this helps to belay you concerns Val... Please keep in mind that your lovely country employs MUA's like me in MI6... We can transform faces completely!
All the best on your journey Val.
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Thank you for taking the time to review and reflec... (show quote)


Hi Thomas, I think I could have phrased my comment at the end better. I knew you had only done the make up
and someone else took the picture. What did not come across was that I compared this portrait to yours and while yours still have character in the faces this does not for me..Basically I was saying I much prefer your portraits, but as you say who is paying gets what they ask for..

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Nov 23, 2020 13:15:41   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 
Garbo-esk!

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Nov 23, 2020 15:33:16   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
"...I much prefer your portraits...: Val that is so kind of you to say... while I cherish your thoughts here, my mentor is by far and away several orders of magnitude above anything I can ever hope to achieve... She is widely published in major circulation magazines and was always in high demand in my market... I am humbled to have been on her team... When I was a second shooter at her wedding events she controlled the ceremony, with all the charisma of an orchestra conductor... guess her degree in photography from a major university played heavily into the mix of her expertise... Again thank you for your wonderful support Val.

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Nov 23, 2020 15:44:15   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
"Garbo-esk!" Totally agree raymondh... Greta Garbo's mesmerizing haunting look were not only a hallmark of silent film but also it's high watermark... Greta is one of a precious few silent film thespians that successfully transitioned into the newly emerging sound films... She master this medium also.... Mata Hari and Grand Hotel come to mind... Again thank your for your continued support! All the best on your journey...

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Nov 23, 2020 18:49:54   #
scphoto Loc: Lancaster, CA
 
I'm always mesmerized by your work, especially upon download whereupon, I find myself pulled even deeper into the flawless details. Forgive my ignorance, but is the glitter applied separately from the blue eye-shadow or is it one product, and are the eyelashes applied one at a time or as a piece? (the first shot looks like a one piece, but your portfolio sample, looks like they may be one at a time. How much time does it take you to do a make up session, and how often do you need to do "touch-ups" during a shoot? When attempting more formal photos of my friends and family, I do look out for the "sheen" that often develops after a bit, and I keep some blotting papers and a generic powder handy if needed;otherwise, they are on their own in the make-up department, and I find I need to be careful about not inadvertently insulting anyone who has a particular sheen developing. Before a session, I always ask them to stay away from make-up with reflective, glittery, elements, but you've just shown that may be a fallacy on my part. Thank you for sharing your creative work and identifying the foundation you used.

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Nov 23, 2020 21:02:13   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
Stephen there are no hard and fast answers to most of your queries...
Best advice: Hire a competent experienced MUA...
Where to find? https://www.weddingwire.com/wedding-beauty-health
Invest some quality time on this site... it holds the answers to many your questions.

Ok, Time in prep? Depends on the client...
Bridal gets the most time... sometimes over an hour (or more if airbrush is requested)
Photoshoots? 40 minutes max is an industry standard... a competent MUA can accomplish a clean beauty look in 20 minute.
If I've already worked with the talent before it moves quickly...
btw, I always do a "Bridal Look" trial session, so no last minute surprises,,,

As for glitter, avoid it... it's a mess... and dangerous if you use inappropriate product.
My biggest challenge? Covering Ink on Brides (Countless brides all say the same thing) "why was I so stupid to get those tattoos"

"Touch-ups" on set? be careful negotiating with a professional MUA... staying for touch-ups during an event is a pricey "extra".

As a photo assistant I've done lighting for lot's of commercial shooters in my market for Corporate Head shots... The story is always the same... Matte Blotting Paper (hand them a half dozen sheets and send them to the "Powder Room" just before their turn on set.

My fav blotting paper (from Japan) has been on back order for ever (pandemic related?)
Here is an alternative...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005JRT7A8/
You should always have lots of this available when ever you are photographing people.

For my bridal clients I give the MOA (maid of honor) a little "rescue" pack with a pack of powdered rice blotting paper... put her in charge of keep the bride sheen free...

As for powder? Unless you know what you are purchasing avoid...
Talc so widely used is a very serious carcinogen. I use only corn starch based powder now...
https://www.fda.gov/cosmetics/cosmetic-ingredients/talc
As Bobby Dylan said... "look out kid, they keep in all hid"

btw, those are "real" lashes... I curled them first then applied black mascara...
Don't even think of doing this...
I hold a cosmetology license from the state of Maryland...
Many months of training... $2K and the lions share of students were estheticians...

Once again, hire a professional bridal makeup artist...
They can and likely will take your beauty genre work entirely to the next level...

All the best on your journey Stephen

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Nov 24, 2020 06:11:59   #
infocus Loc: Australia
 
Thomas902 wrote:
While I was only the makeup artist and light assistant on this session I believe it is appropriate and germane since the photographer in responsible charge is one of my cherished mentors... much of my visual statement has evolved from time on set with her...

Important Caveat: This "Glitter" was ophthalmology approved makeup for use around the sensitive eye area. Never use non-ophthalmology approved product around the eyes!
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One of the very best I've seen you do - and that is saying something.

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Nov 24, 2020 08:56:42   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
Thank you so much for your very kind words infocus... they are truly appreciated!
btw, totally love your "Beautiful Granddaughter" post 3/23/2020...
She is absolutely adorable and so precious! Certainly fitting to capture her at the end of a Rainbow!

All the best on your photographic journey infocus

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