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Nov 22, 2020 09:17:47   #
49south Loc: Bux-Mont, Pa
 
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/editorials/fl-op-edit-trump-tyranny-20201120-xnehxnhycfbvfkct4vs74tjzyy-story.html

Our nation, the world’s oldest democracy, stands at the doorway of a dictatorship that seemed unimaginable before Donald J. Trump attained the presidency.
In his desperation to retain the office he fairly won four years ago and fairly lost on November 3, Trump has bared the mind and menace of a tyrant. There is no better word for his conduct although the word “t*****r” also comes to mind.

Since the Constitution narrowly defines treason as “levying war” against the United States or in “adhering to their enemies,” Trump’s machinations might not qualify as that crime, which is punishable by death.
But they are in every sense the moral equivalent. He swore to “preserve, protect and defend” the Constitution” that he is now obsessed with subverting.

No losing candidate, let alone an incumbent president, ever attempted that.
A distant comparison might be had only to the contested e******n of 1876, when Congress resolved disputed v**e totals in Florida and two other states in favor of Republican Rutherford B. Hayes, who was known thereafter as “his fraudulency.”

There is no question now, however, over the popular v**e outcome in any state
But Trump, having lost a torrent of lawsuits that were as baseless as his claim to have won the e******n, is now trying to bully Republican state legislators in Michigan and Pennsylvania to override the v**es of their citizens.
The people of those states favored former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. by a combined winning margin six times larger than Trump achieved in 2016, when no one questioned the legitimacy of his victory.
Discarding popular v**es, wh**ever the pretext, is what dictators do. It is what tyrants do.
It bears remembering, however, that dictators cannot act on their own.
They depend upon accomplices.
Trump plainly hopes to terrorize enough Republican legislators into becoming his accomplices so as to block the certification of e*****rs from Michigan and Pennsylvania, which would leave Biden with the minimum of 270 e*******l v**es.
Thereafter, Trump would hunt for another state to subvert or for Biden e*****rs he could bully or bribe. In one scenario, the e******n would be forced into the House of Representatives, where the state delegations would each have one v**e. Republicans control 26 of the 50. Wisconsin, where Trump is poised to sue for a recount, is probably next in line.
Many people, including former President Barack Obama, doubt that Trump can pull it off.
Indeed, it would seem far-fetched if it weren’t for Trump’s proven success in making cowards and followers of other elected Republicans who fear his influence over the party’s rank-and-file, the decisive force in its primary e******ns. In our current hour of dread, only a very few, including Sens. Mitt Romney and Ben Sasse, have spoken against him.
Mark Sanford, the former South Carolina congressman who provoked the dictator’s wrath, is living evidence of its reach.
It was encouraging that Michigan’s Republican legislative leaders, who met with Trump Friday, said they did not intend to disturb the returns and would “follow the normal process.” They did appear to humor Trump, however, by agreeing to appoint a committee that would look into any irregularities.
Even if he fails, as he should, Trump has accomplished another evil that no predecessor ever attempted. He has brainwashed a substantial minority of Americans into denying the legitimacy of Biden’s e******n and his presidency.
Everyone who might have a hand in what Trump is trying to do to the United States should understand that history is as harsh on accomplices as on the tyrants they serve. And so are the v**ers they betray, provided they retain the right to v**e.
That right is the indispensable foundation of any republic, any democracy. That is what is at stake in the United States at this moment.
If Trump prevails, history will record that our democracy lasted barely 230 years, destroyed in the end by a man who lost the e******n by nearly 6 million popular v**es.
And if that’s not treason, what is?
Editorials are the opinion of the Sun Sentinel Editorial Board and written by one of its members or a designee. The Editorial Board consists of Editorial Page Editor Rosemary O’Hara, Dan Sweeney, Steve Bousquet and Editor-in-Chief Julie Anderson.

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Nov 22, 2020 09:41:10   #
Vietnam Vet
 
no. selling our plutonium to Russia is treason

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Nov 22, 2020 09:57:44   #
Bill 45
 
Lets be very careful when using the word "Treason". There is no question that Moron the First should go before the bar of justice for his actions. But treason I don't think so. What about the 250,000 people who have die because of his inaction? Crime against humanity? Something to think about.

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Nov 22, 2020 11:13:59   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
49south wrote:
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/editorials/fl-op-edit-trump-tyranny-20201120-xnehxnhycfbvfkct4vs74tjzyy-story.html

Our nation, the world’s oldest democracy, stands at the doorway of a dictatorship that seemed unimaginable before Donald J. Trump attained the presidency.
In his desperation to retain the office he fairly won four years ago and fairly lost on November 3, Trump has bared the mind and menace of a tyrant. There is no better word for his conduct although the word “t*****r” also comes to mind.

Since the Constitution narrowly defines treason as “levying war” against the United States or in “adhering to their enemies,” Trump’s machinations might not qualify as that crime, which is punishable by death.
But they are in every sense the moral equivalent. He swore to “preserve, protect and defend” the Constitution” that he is now obsessed with subverting.

No losing candidate, let alone an incumbent president, ever attempted that.
A distant comparison might be had only to the contested e******n of 1876, when Congress resolved disputed v**e totals in Florida and two other states in favor of Republican Rutherford B. Hayes, who was known thereafter as “his fraudulency.”

There is no question now, however, over the popular v**e outcome in any state
But Trump, having lost a torrent of lawsuits that were as baseless as his claim to have won the e******n, is now trying to bully Republican state legislators in Michigan and Pennsylvania to override the v**es of their citizens.
The people of those states favored former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. by a combined winning margin six times larger than Trump achieved in 2016, when no one questioned the legitimacy of his victory.
Discarding popular v**es, wh**ever the pretext, is what dictators do. It is what tyrants do.
It bears remembering, however, that dictators cannot act on their own.
They depend upon accomplices.
Trump plainly hopes to terrorize enough Republican legislators into becoming his accomplices so as to block the certification of e*****rs from Michigan and Pennsylvania, which would leave Biden with the minimum of 270 e*******l v**es.
Thereafter, Trump would hunt for another state to subvert or for Biden e*****rs he could bully or bribe. In one scenario, the e******n would be forced into the House of Representatives, where the state delegations would each have one v**e. Republicans control 26 of the 50. Wisconsin, where Trump is poised to sue for a recount, is probably next in line.
Many people, including former President Barack Obama, doubt that Trump can pull it off.
Indeed, it would seem far-fetched if it weren’t for Trump’s proven success in making cowards and followers of other elected Republicans who fear his influence over the party’s rank-and-file, the decisive force in its primary e******ns. In our current hour of dread, only a very few, including Sens. Mitt Romney and Ben Sasse, have spoken against him.
Mark Sanford, the former South Carolina congressman who provoked the dictator’s wrath, is living evidence of its reach.
It was encouraging that Michigan’s Republican legislative leaders, who met with Trump Friday, said they did not intend to disturb the returns and would “follow the normal process.” They did appear to humor Trump, however, by agreeing to appoint a committee that would look into any irregularities.
Even if he fails, as he should, Trump has accomplished another evil that no predecessor ever attempted. He has brainwashed a substantial minority of Americans into denying the legitimacy of Biden’s e******n and his presidency.
Everyone who might have a hand in what Trump is trying to do to the United States should understand that history is as harsh on accomplices as on the tyrants they serve. And so are the v**ers they betray, provided they retain the right to v**e.
That right is the indispensable foundation of any republic, any democracy. That is what is at stake in the United States at this moment.
If Trump prevails, history will record that our democracy lasted barely 230 years, destroyed in the end by a man who lost the e******n by nearly 6 million popular v**es.
And if that’s not treason, what is?
Editorials are the opinion of the Sun Sentinel Editorial Board and written by one of its members or a designee. The Editorial Board consists of Editorial Page Editor Rosemary O’Hara, Dan Sweeney, Steve Bousquet and Editor-in-Chief Julie Anderson.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/editorials/fl... (show quote)

Trump is persuing every legal opportunity to stay in office. He is entitled to do this. You can use any word you want to describe his actions. But he has the right to do what he is doing.

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Nov 22, 2020 11:37:00   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
49south wrote:
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/editorials/fl-op-edit-trump-tyranny-20201120-xnehxnhycfbvfkct4vs74tjzyy-story.html

Our nation, the world’s oldest democracy, stands at the doorway of a dictatorship that seemed unimaginable before Donald J. Trump attained the presidency.
In his desperation to retain the office he fairly won four years ago and fairly lost on November 3, Trump has bared the mind and menace of a tyrant. There is no better word for his conduct although the word “t*****r” also comes to mind.

Since the Constitution narrowly defines treason as “levying war” against the United States or in “adhering to their enemies,” Trump’s machinations might not qualify as that crime, which is punishable by death.
But they are in every sense the moral equivalent. He swore to “preserve, protect and defend” the Constitution” that he is now obsessed with subverting.

No losing candidate, let alone an incumbent president, ever attempted that.
A distant comparison might be had only to the contested e******n of 1876, when Congress resolved disputed v**e totals in Florida and two other states in favor of Republican Rutherford B. Hayes, who was known thereafter as “his fraudulency.”

There is no question now, however, over the popular v**e outcome in any state
But Trump, having lost a torrent of lawsuits that were as baseless as his claim to have won the e******n, is now trying to bully Republican state legislators in Michigan and Pennsylvania to override the v**es of their citizens.
The people of those states favored former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. by a combined winning margin six times larger than Trump achieved in 2016, when no one questioned the legitimacy of his victory.
Discarding popular v**es, wh**ever the pretext, is what dictators do. It is what tyrants do.
It bears remembering, however, that dictators cannot act on their own.
They depend upon accomplices.
Trump plainly hopes to terrorize enough Republican legislators into becoming his accomplices so as to block the certification of e*****rs from Michigan and Pennsylvania, which would leave Biden with the minimum of 270 e*******l v**es.
Thereafter, Trump would hunt for another state to subvert or for Biden e*****rs he could bully or bribe. In one scenario, the e******n would be forced into the House of Representatives, where the state delegations would each have one v**e. Republicans control 26 of the 50. Wisconsin, where Trump is poised to sue for a recount, is probably next in line.
Many people, including former President Barack Obama, doubt that Trump can pull it off.
Indeed, it would seem far-fetched if it weren’t for Trump’s proven success in making cowards and followers of other elected Republicans who fear his influence over the party’s rank-and-file, the decisive force in its primary e******ns. In our current hour of dread, only a very few, including Sens. Mitt Romney and Ben Sasse, have spoken against him.
Mark Sanford, the former South Carolina congressman who provoked the dictator’s wrath, is living evidence of its reach.
It was encouraging that Michigan’s Republican legislative leaders, who met with Trump Friday, said they did not intend to disturb the returns and would “follow the normal process.” They did appear to humor Trump, however, by agreeing to appoint a committee that would look into any irregularities.
Even if he fails, as he should, Trump has accomplished another evil that no predecessor ever attempted. He has brainwashed a substantial minority of Americans into denying the legitimacy of Biden’s e******n and his presidency.
Everyone who might have a hand in what Trump is trying to do to the United States should understand that history is as harsh on accomplices as on the tyrants they serve. And so are the v**ers they betray, provided they retain the right to v**e.
That right is the indispensable foundation of any republic, any democracy. That is what is at stake in the United States at this moment.
If Trump prevails, history will record that our democracy lasted barely 230 years, destroyed in the end by a man who lost the e******n by nearly 6 million popular v**es.
And if that’s not treason, what is?
Editorials are the opinion of the Sun Sentinel Editorial Board and written by one of its members or a designee. The Editorial Board consists of Editorial Page Editor Rosemary O’Hara, Dan Sweeney, Steve Bousquet and Editor-in-Chief Julie Anderson.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/editorials/fl... (show quote)


If Trump is a tyrant, why aren’t you in jail?

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Nov 22, 2020 11:46:43   #
McKinneyMike Loc: Texas
 
LWW wrote:
If Trump is a tyrant, why aren’t you in jail?


He ran out of time! People saw where he was heading. Reporters were being threatened with anti-American rhetoric daily, teargassing protesters, trying to single out political opponents via the AG for prosecutions for just a few. He wanted only praise to stroke his feeble ego. A child occupying the highest office in the US and a psychopath at that. He will be busy fighting for his own freedom which is the ironic part of this. He will get justice unlike what he wanted to give those that worked to expose his criminal escapades over the past 4+ years. I can't wait to hear him begging for funding from his followers to pay for his legal Bill's for him and his family! Karma is a b***h....

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Nov 22, 2020 11:55:01   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
49south wrote:
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/editorials/fl-op-edit-trump-tyranny-20201120-xnehxnhycfbvfkct4vs74tjzyy-story.html

Our nation, the world’s oldest democracy, stands at the doorway of a dictatorship that seemed unimaginable before Donald J. Trump attained the presidency.
In his desperation to retain the office he fairly won four years ago and fairly lost on November 3, Trump has bared the mind and menace of a tyrant. There is no better word for his conduct although the word “t*****r” also comes to mind.

Since the Constitution narrowly defines treason as “levying war” against the United States or in “adhering to their enemies,” Trump’s machinations might not qualify as that crime, which is punishable by death.
But they are in every sense the moral equivalent. He swore to “preserve, protect and defend” the Constitution” that he is now obsessed with subverting.

No losing candidate, let alone an incumbent president, ever attempted that.
A distant comparison might be had only to the contested e******n of 1876, when Congress resolved disputed v**e totals in Florida and two other states in favor of Republican Rutherford B. Hayes, who was known thereafter as “his fraudulency.”

There is no question now, however, over the popular v**e outcome in any state
But Trump, having lost a torrent of lawsuits that were as baseless as his claim to have won the e******n, is now trying to bully Republican state legislators in Michigan and Pennsylvania to override the v**es of their citizens.
The people of those states favored former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. by a combined winning margin six times larger than Trump achieved in 2016, when no one questioned the legitimacy of his victory.
Discarding popular v**es, wh**ever the pretext, is what dictators do. It is what tyrants do.
It bears remembering, however, that dictators cannot act on their own.
They depend upon accomplices.
Trump plainly hopes to terrorize enough Republican legislators into becoming his accomplices so as to block the certification of e*****rs from Michigan and Pennsylvania, which would leave Biden with the minimum of 270 e*******l v**es.
Thereafter, Trump would hunt for another state to subvert or for Biden e*****rs he could bully or bribe. In one scenario, the e******n would be forced into the House of Representatives, where the state delegations would each have one v**e. Republicans control 26 of the 50. Wisconsin, where Trump is poised to sue for a recount, is probably next in line.
Many people, including former President Barack Obama, doubt that Trump can pull it off.
Indeed, it would seem far-fetched if it weren’t for Trump’s proven success in making cowards and followers of other elected Republicans who fear his influence over the party’s rank-and-file, the decisive force in its primary e******ns. In our current hour of dread, only a very few, including Sens. Mitt Romney and Ben Sasse, have spoken against him.
Mark Sanford, the former South Carolina congressman who provoked the dictator’s wrath, is living evidence of its reach.
It was encouraging that Michigan’s Republican legislative leaders, who met with Trump Friday, said they did not intend to disturb the returns and would “follow the normal process.” They did appear to humor Trump, however, by agreeing to appoint a committee that would look into any irregularities.
Even if he fails, as he should, Trump has accomplished another evil that no predecessor ever attempted. He has brainwashed a substantial minority of Americans into denying the legitimacy of Biden’s e******n and his presidency.
Everyone who might have a hand in what Trump is trying to do to the United States should understand that history is as harsh on accomplices as on the tyrants they serve. And so are the v**ers they betray, provided they retain the right to v**e.
That right is the indispensable foundation of any republic, any democracy. That is what is at stake in the United States at this moment.
If Trump prevails, history will record that our democracy lasted barely 230 years, destroyed in the end by a man who lost the e******n by nearly 6 million popular v**es.
And if that’s not treason, what is?
Editorials are the opinion of the Sun Sentinel Editorial Board and written by one of its members or a designee. The Editorial Board consists of Editorial Page Editor Rosemary O’Hara, Dan Sweeney, Steve Bousquet and Editor-in-Chief Julie Anderson.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/editorials/fl... (show quote)



Comrade dirty,
Your post is weak c****e crap.
Gore got 37 days to contest e******n results.

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Nov 22, 2020 13:55:35   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
Bill 45 wrote:
Lets be very careful when using the word "Treason". There is no question that Moron the First should go before the bar of justice for his actions. But treason I don't think so. What about the 250,000 people who have die because of his inaction? Crime against humanity? Something to think about.

Your 'crime against humanity' came from China, Bill. Did you forget that in your irrational hatred?

All the "experts and modelers" predicted that the US would have over 2 million deaths by this time. According to those expert predictions, President Trump has done an amazing job.

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Nov 22, 2020 14:08:32   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Vietnam Vet wrote:
no. selling our plutonium to Russia is treason


So is enriching the family coffers doing side jobs with the Chinese c*******t military using your Krack head son as a front man while you are still Obama's VP. Not to mention establishing a "cancer foundation" in the name of your dead son and not providing ANY research while paying the board members six digit salaries. Not to mention shaking down the Ukraine with US foreign aid to get a prosecutor off your krack addicted, child molesting vermin of a POS son's back for money laundering for Russian Oligarchs. Which he admitted to BTW. On video! Put a Trump in any one of those positions and see WTF happens!

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Nov 22, 2020 14:09:39   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
skylane5sp wrote:
Your 'crime against humanity' came from China, Bill. Did you forget that in your irrational hatred?

All the "experts and modelers" predicted that the US would have over 2 million deaths by this time. According to those expert predictions, President Trump has done an amazing job.


Who else in the world has a v*****e up and ready to go?

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Nov 22, 2020 14:10:57   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
yhtomit wrote:
Comrade dirty,
Your post is weak c****e crap.
Gore got 37 days to contest e******n results.


In three counties in ONE state.

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Nov 22, 2020 14:12:38   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
He ran out of time! People saw where he was heading. Reporters were being threatened with anti-American rhetoric daily, teargassing protesters, trying to single out political opponents via the AG for prosecutions for just a few. He wanted only praise to stroke his feeble ego. A child occupying the highest office in the US and a psychopath at that. He will be busy fighting for his own freedom which is the ironic part of this. He will get justice unlike what he wanted to give those that worked to expose his criminal escapades over the past 4+ years. I can't wait to hear him begging for funding from his followers to pay for his legal Bill's for him and his family! Karma is a b***h....
He ran out of time! People saw where he was headin... (show quote)


Kamala is a b***h....

There, I fixed it for you.

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Nov 22, 2020 14:14:36   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Vietnam Vet wrote:
no. selling our plutonium to Russia is treason


You don't even know what you're talking about Helsinki boy.

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Nov 22, 2020 16:54:56   #
Bill 45
 
skylane5sp wrote:
Your 'crime against humanity' came from China, Bill. Did you forget that in your irrational hatred?

All the "experts and modelers" predicted that the US would have over 2 million deaths by this time. According to those expert predictions, President Trump has done an amazing job.


I talking about here in America, not China. Moron the First is president of USA, not China. It ok to have 250, 000 people dead because it did not hit what very was prediction? You read like the "good Germans" after the end of WWII.

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Nov 22, 2020 20:45:31   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
idaholover wrote:
In three counties in ONE state.


So what?

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