Adobe Catching Up! It is nice to see Adobe products getting into the "AI" arena with new "Pre-Sets and "Sky Replacement," etc. Other developers, such as Luminar 4, etc. are really...

xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada

It is nice to see Adobe products getting into the "AI" arena with new "Pre-Sets and "Sky Replacement," etc. Other developers, such as Luminar 4, etc. are really making our options and the marketplace a better place.

Cheers!

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

Lightroom Classic did an AI thing long enough back that it might already be forgotton. There is an "Auto" button in the Develop module that really works quite well. There has long been an Auto button, that didn't work so well. It got the AI treatment a few releases back.

Where Adobe seems to be shining is the smart connectivity. Here at UHH it seems most want to pick a single product and stick with it. It used to be that the old Lightroom had an "edit in" photoshop selection and all connectivity stopped there. Now there are 5 Lightrooms, Photoshop and a display Portfolio that are all connected in useful ways.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

bsprague wrote:

Lightroom Classic did an AI thing long enough back... (show quote)

The current editon of LR Classic also does "Edit In" the Topaz stuff, NIK and a few others, I believe the Franzis Projects series also but I haven't bought or used one of those in several years.

abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois

After being around for twenty years or so, AI is the latest and greatest buzzword. You can slap it on anything without justification. LR is great, with or without AI.

mflowe Loc: Port Deposit, MD

xt2 wrote:

It is nice to see Adobe products getting into the "AI" arena with new "Pre-Sets and "Sky Replacement," etc. Other developers, such as Luminar 4, etc. are really making our options and the marketplace a better place.

Cheers!

Why bother even learning how to use a camera or PP to put forth your vision? Why bother leaving your house? I want a camera where I can just sit on the couch in my home in MD and trip the shutter and my camera takes an AI picture of the Faroe Islands with AI crashing waves and AI sunrays and AI clouds.

Jagnut07 Loc: South Carolina

mflowe wrote:

Why bother even learning how to use a camera or PP to put forth your vision? Why bother leaving your house? I want a camera where I can just sit on the couch in my home in MD and trip the shutter and my camera takes an AI picture of the Faroe Islands with AI crashing waves and AI sunrays and AI clouds.

It’s called a television, been around since the 1940’s😀

POVDOV

I'm sure all the old historic painters like Van Gogh and Rembrandt never changed a color or moved a piece of fruit in a still life. They wouldn't dare leave out an ugly pimple on a beautiful lady's profile. It's the artists "minds eye" that determines the content of a picture not the observer. The observer can only like it or not.

NCMtnMan Loc: N. Fork New River, Ashe Co., NC

mflowe wrote:

Why bother even learning how to use a camera or PP to put forth your vision? Why bother leaving your house? I want a camera where I can just sit on the couch in my home in MD and trip the shutter and my camera takes an AI picture of the Faroe Islands with AI crashing waves and AI sunrays and AI clouds.

There's nothing or no one that says you have to use any of it. Some are not as proficient in PP as perhaps you are, and they may find AI a blessing for the help it gives them. Some prefer a straight shift and others an automatic. In either case it gets them where they want to go, and no one is the lesser for using either.

mflowe Loc: Port Deposit, MD

POVDOV wrote:

I'm sure all the old historic painters like Van Gogh and Rembrandt never changed a color or moved a piece of fruit in a still life. They wouldn't dare leave out an ugly pimple on a beautiful lady's profile. It's the artists "minds eye" that determines the content of a picture not the observer. The observer can only like it or not.

Oh please. I wish people would stop with the Van Gogh did this, Ansel Adams did so and so to enhance his photos. Of course he did. What he didn't do was push a button and let someone else ie. AI do it for him. He was the artist that painted his canvas not a piece of computer software.

mflowe Loc: Port Deposit, MD

NCMtnMan wrote:

There's nothing or no one that says you have to use any of it. Some are not as proficient in PP as perhaps you are, and they may find AI a blessing for the help it gives them. Some prefer a straight shift and others an automatic. In either case it gets them where they want to go, and no one is the lesser for using either.

Yeah right. It sounds like you're justifying not even putting in the effort to learn your craft. Why not just give everyone a college degree while you're at it? After all they deserve one just for being alive. Who needs all those stupid books anyway?

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

xt2 wrote:

It is nice to see Adobe products getting into the "AI" arena with new "Pre-Sets and "Sky Replacement," etc. Other developers, such as Luminar 4, etc. are really making our options and the marketplace a better place.

Cheers!

I don't care for AI solutions. They may be ok for average images, but if one takes images that push the limits - usually low light/high ISO, contrast range, etc, AI had little to offer. An experienced hand and brain making editing decisions will ALWAYS beat AI anything. I've been doing sky replacements since I discovered masking/compositing in Photoshop almost 30 yrs ago.

POVDOV

I wish it was as simple as you say it is. Replacing a clear sky with a cloudy one is only the beginning. Lighting and shadows change etc etc.

chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA

POVDOV wrote:

I wish it was as simple as you say it is. Replacing a clear sky with a cloudy one is only the beginning. Lighting and shadows change etc etc.

...please use the "Quote Reply" button so we know to whom you are responding. ;0)

Grahame Loc: Fiji

mflowe wrote:

It sounds like you're justifying not even putting in the effort to learn your craft.

There often seems to be a misguided assumption that those that use such things as 'AI' or 'Auto' techniques have not already 'learnt their craft' and are already fully competent at it.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Grahame wrote:

There often seems to be a misguided assumption that those that use such things as 'AI' or 'Auto' techniques have not already 'learnt their craft' and are already fully competent at it.

Exactly, I can do these things the long slow boring way but the new "AI" or whatever automated apps get me further, faster and then I can tweak them to what I want.

If you like sitting and doing it the hard way, Go for It!
I have other things I want to do.
And I have been into digital since the late 90's and photography since I was a kid, then started doing my own developing and printing in the early 70's. And, yes, I took a class in and did Adams' Zone System of B&W for a while. In 1/2 frame, 35mm, 4.5x6cm and 4x5inch.
I do NOT miss the darkroom at all. I had a few asthma attacks triggered by the fumes of the chemicals. If you have never had an asthma attack just take my word for it that you DO NOT want to experience it for yourself.