billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Yesterday I went to my Adobe Creative Cloud and downloaded the new updated Photo Shop. When I used to do sky replacement it used to take quite a few steps. Now it's a one step process.
I included two images, the first one was taken of the local lake gatehouse with a dull overcast sky. The second image is a sky replacement with just a small amount of color enhancements. It is really easy and I look forward to tweaking future images. But for now I am just enjoying choosing from more than 15 sky's photoshop lets you choose from.
A hint here, the more contrast between the sky and the ground the better, make sure you have clean horizon lines, it helps out.
This will drive the purists nutz.
Good start. Gonna color the water ?
What User ID said! You need to get the water to reflect the sky. Just needs one more layer.
billnikon wrote:
Yesterday I went to my Adobe Creative Cloud and downloaded the new updated Photo Shop. When I used to do sky replacement it used to take quite a few steps. Now it's a one step process.
I included two images, the first one was taken of the local lake gatehouse with a dull overcast sky. The second image is a sky replacement with just a small amount of color enhancements. It is really easy and I look forward to tweaking future images. But for now I am just enjoying choosing from more than 15 sky's photoshop lets you choose from.
A hint here, the more contrast between the sky and the ground the better, make sure you have clean horizon lines, it helps out.
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That looks amazingly good. I've seen examples ...not so much.
I would have never guessed it was a composite, part of that is your good eye in processing. Great job on the color and blending.
I do not like the idea of a "canned" (for lack of a better word) sky at all, at least not for me.
The "purist" in me draws a line at using someone else's work, even if they say it's okay.
The worst part about it, this sounds easy or relatively easy. Which means that technology is going to trickle into to where at some point you may never see another crappy grey sky ever again- all will be stunning and beautiful and at the same time... none will be.
"A cliché, or cliche, is an expression, idea, or element of an artistic work that has become overused to the point of losing its original meaning or effect, even to the point of being trite or irritating, especially when at some earlier time it was considered meaningful or novel."
Thoughts?
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Longshadow wrote:
This will drive the purists nutz.
Yeah. Just imagine, artists have been doing this for centuries, it was call artistic expression. Now photographers can do the same.
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
User ID wrote:
Good start. Gonna color the water ?
Yes, I have just scratched the surface with this new tool and will continue to study the image for future adjustments. Just wanted to show how easy it was to do.
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
KankRat wrote:
That looks amazingly good. I've seen examples ...not so much.
I would have never guessed it was a composite, part of that is your good eye in processing. Great job on the color and blending.
I do not like the idea of a "canned" (for lack of a better word) sky at all, at least not for me.
The "purist" in me draws a line at using someone else's work, even if they say it's okay.
The worst part about it, this sounds easy or relatively easy. Which means that technology is going to trickle into to where at some point you may never see another crappy grey sky ever again- all will be stunning and beautiful and at the same time... none will be.
"A cliché, or cliche, is an expression, idea, or element of an artistic work that has become overused to the point of losing its original meaning or effect, even to the point of being trite or irritating, especially when at some earlier time it was considered meaningful or novel."
Thoughts?
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I remember in the film days we talked about a "painters sky". Meaning, an artist could paint the sky as they wished, but not so the photographer.
When a dark storm cloud was over head, the the sun came out and lit up the foreground, you would have that black sky against a very bright fore ground, we referred to that as a painters sky. But we could now photograph that sky and it came out great, especially in B&W and we could then make the sky even darker in the dark room.
Now I can recreate that painters sky when ever I feel it is justified.
No, I view this new tool as an extra element I can now employ in my arsenal of creative interpretation.
[quote=billnikon]I remember in the film days we talked about a "painters sky". Meaning, an artist could paint the sky as they wished, but not so the photographer.
When a dark storm cloud was over head, the the sun came out and lit up the foreground, you would have that black sky against a very bright fore ground, we referred to that as a painters sky. But we could now photograph that sky and it came out great, especially in B&W and we could then make the sky even darker in the dark room.
Now I can recreate that painters sky when ever I feel it is justified.
No, I view this new tool as an extra element I can now employ in my arsenal of creative interpretation.[/quote
Cool. I think a whole lot of folks will like it too. Wait till you can do it in a phone.
KankRat wrote:
That looks amazingly good. I've seen examples ...not so much.
I would have never guessed it was a composite, part of that is your good eye in processing. Great job on the color and blending.
I do not like the idea of a "canned" (for lack of a better word) sky at all, at least not for me.
The "purist" in me draws a line at using someone else's work, even if they say it's okay.
The worst part about it, this sounds easy or relatively easy. Which means that technology is going to trickle into to where at some point you may never see another crappy grey sky ever again- all will be stunning and beautiful and at the same time... none will be.
"A cliché, or cliche, is an expression, idea, or element of an artistic work that has become overused to the point of losing its original meaning or effect, even to the point of being trite or irritating, especially when at some earlier time it was considered meaningful or novel."
Thoughts?
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You can still stay a "Purist". Shoot your own skies and then use them in your composites. I have been using Photoshop for a very long time and I have always liked doing composites. I always thought that it would be better if I was the author of whatever item used in the finished piece. I have many folders of just random things I have photographed over the years on our travels. When an idea for a composite hits me I search through those folders looking for different items I can use to build the composite. For me it's a fun and very challenging hobby.
billnikon wrote:
I remember in the film days we talked about a "painters sky". Meaning, an artist could paint the sky as they wished, but not so the photographer.
When a dark storm cloud was over head, the the sun came out and lit up the foreground, you would have that black sky against a very bright fore ground, we referred to that as a painters sky. But we could now photograph that sky and it came out great, especially in B&W and we could then make the sky even darker in the dark room.
Now I can recreate that painters sky when ever I feel it is justified.
No, I view this new tool as an extra element I can now employ in my arsenal of creative interpretation.
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Bill, you said "an extra element I can now employ in my arsenal of creative interpretation"?
More accurately - creative impressionism?
Is it a co-incidence that the initials of "painters sky" stand for "photo shopped"? At least no-one will think that your photo with the replaced sky is real.
I've replaced skies in a few of my images. I realize we all have our likes and dislikes but I prefer normal looking blue skies with white clouds rather than dramatic looking skies. Looks much more realistic that one would see countless days of the year. I don't want anyone looking at any of my images and notice the sky has been replaced. But that's just me.
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
yssirk123 wrote:
Very nice Bill!
Thank you. But I am still taking baby steps. Stay tuned.
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