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Oct 20, 2020 07:57:20   #
bleirer
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I've been setting my alarm and being up before sunrise. It the sky isn't clear when the sun comes out, I just go back to bed.


I've noticed it is always darkest just before it starts to brighten up. Rule of thumb.

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Oct 20, 2020 08:13:21   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Leitz wrote:
If the sky isn't clear, how can the sun come out?


Maybe he was just dreaming, grin.
Smile,
JimmyT Sends

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Oct 20, 2020 08:14:10   #
Gitchigumi Loc: Wake Forest, NC
 
(Being cheeky here:) I think the advice for photographing with overcast skies comes from the UK... For them, overcast is normal. At least, it seems that way when I watch YouTube videos of photography from there.

Granted, some scenes are better under overcast skies with the associated flat and soft light. Or, in foggy conditions. But, for me personally, I like having sunny days, although not with crystal-clear skies. Clouds add interest. And, I'd rather deal with shadows and vibrant colors than 'flat' images. Give me flat light from a sunrise or sunset, instead.

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Oct 20, 2020 08:16:57   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Low angle of sun is best, wet after rain is second-best in my opinion. Mid-day bright sun washes out colors. There are many forms of "cloudy" - from featureless gray high sky to fluffy white clouds in brilliant blue.

I also love backlighting. The first is mid-morning sun:


Linda
I just Love your examples!
Smile,
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Bravo Zulu

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Oct 20, 2020 08:33:39   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
larryepage wrote:
When we lived in Seattle, we drove (or rode) up to the Skagit Valley Tulip Festival several times. Consistent with the Western Washington climate, it was usually overcast when we went. One year, though, the sun was shining. It was much tougher to get good photographs of the tulips...both the whole fields and individual blooms that year. Lighting was much too harsh. The overcast provides a natural fill lighting that significantly enhances the tulips and daffodils and also makes photography so much easier. I was more into using polarizing filters then, and they could not fix the problem like the overcast could. Colors begtter, contrast less harsh, dynamic range much more manageable.
When we lived in Seattle, we drove (or rode) up to... (show quote)


Probably needed a defuser & a way to hold it. & then your subject area would be limited to the area of.

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Oct 20, 2020 08:35:56   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I've been setting my alarm and being up before sunrise. It the sky isn't clear when the sun comes out, I just go back to bed.


for sunrise photos?

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Oct 20, 2020 08:36:31   #
Baysitter11 Loc: Cincinnati
 
The leaves is my fave,

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Oct 20, 2020 09:31:24   #
fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH
 
I agree with Linda; for fall foliage low sun's best. In a low sun angle, doesn't the atmosphere filter out a lot of the blue end of the spectrum? This means you have more red rays striking red, yellow and orange foliage making the colors brighter and warmer. Unless you specifically want a blue sky in your photo, I'd agree with others that bright overcast offers the best natural light in other outdoor situations. IMHO, of course.

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Oct 20, 2020 14:32:13   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Linda, the last photograph is really beautiful. The lighting on the leaves and your process to bring the subtleness contained in the scene is really nice.
--Bob
Linda From Maine wrote:
Low angle of sun is best, wet after rain is second-best in my opinion. Mid-day bright sun washes out colors. There are many forms of "cloudy" - from featureless gray high sky to fluffy white clouds in brilliant blue.

I also love backlighting. The first is mid-morning sun:

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Oct 20, 2020 15:11:09   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Whenever I read about how to take autumn pictures, there is always the suggestion to go out on a cloudy day. I can't understand that. It's cloudy right now, and I might just as well shoot B&W. As far as I'm concerned, it's the sun that brings out the colors. Since I'm shooting for myself, I'll wait for the sun to come out.

"The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar
That tomorrow
There'll be sun."
Whenever I read about how to take autumn pictures,... (show quote)


The issue here is "cloudy day" and what that actually means in relationship, specifically, to fall foliage and photography. A bright day with no filter of clouds over the sun can wash out the color on fall foliage as there is too much light on the subject. But, a dull day with no light can create an image that is also dull and lifeless because there is not enough light on the subject. After all, the key to an image is light and without it there would be no photograph. Timing can also be important when shooting fall foliage as the lower sun tends to help to create better light for optimal images, thus early morning or late afternoon. But, most fall foliage is at higher altitudes and there are canyons and valleys and often a lot of shade and this can also affect the outcome of the image and the sun may not shine at all until later in the day in some places. I just did a fall foliage trip so this subject is one I am currently familiar with. The best type of "cloudy day" for fall foliage might be one where there are puffy white clouds that filter the sun's rays to the degree that the light shines on the subject but does not wash the color out. As we all know, there are many variables with any shot so experience is the best teacher of what might work for a fall color image. I "followed" the sun for my shots this trip and shot at both earlier and later times, for my area this was perhaps 8-10 am or so and then 3-5 or so, this depends on your area. I was shooting along Hwy. 395 in Northern California. I wanted optimal color so I wanted to ensure that I could get the shot with the most tones available in it and I was looking for the right light to do this. I would post something but I don't do that unless I ask first. I did post some in the gallery section.

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Oct 20, 2020 16:36:16   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
I was out this cloudy morning and photographed the changing colors in my little area of New England. Quite honestly, I shoot for the highlights and then do an HDR in Photoshop Elements.

I watched Thomas Heaton on Youtube this week and he uses a polarizing filter when shooting in cloudy weather. It is counterintuitive, but I tried it and I liked what it did to my color saturation (even in cloudy weather).

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Oct 20, 2020 19:56:33   #
worldcycle Loc: Stateline, Nevada
 
Awesome examples. Compliments.

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Oct 20, 2020 20:24:03   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Many thanks to those who complimented my photos. The quality of light in photography is so important; it's unfortunate that it is not addressed more often in main discussion. But, by the modest two pages of this thread compared to the seven pages of discussion about how to download photos from camera to computer, other folks have different priorities ☹️

Thank you Jerry for attempting to open the conversation!

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Oct 20, 2020 22:40:30   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Many thanks to those who complimented my photos. The quality of light in photography is so important; it's unfortunate that it is not addressed more often in main discussion. But, by the modest two pages of this thread compared to the seven pages of discussion about how to download photos from camera to computer, other folks have different priorities ☹️

Thank you Jerry for attempting to open the conversation!


Lovely shots, Linda!

Autumn is my favorite season for shooting foliage. The days grow shorter and the sun is lower in the sky earlier in the day. It brings out textures and the warm light transillumintes the leaves. Especially nice for backgrounds on fashion shoots, portraits, and architecture.

Gotta admit, I'm jelous of y'all. All the nice foreground subject matter. Lately, especially when the light is perfect, I'm shootg on some dirty construction site- no rustic old barns, pretty models or rolling streams. So attached is my glam. shot of a red crane and my other "masterpiece" entitled "Somewhere Over the Crane-Bow"

So...the other day, while driving home from running some boring errands, I came across a great little Autumn arangemn on someone's lawn- NO CAMERA, so I shot it with my cellphone- RATS!

Now that you inspired me, I'm gonna run out the first thing in the morinig and see if there are any leaves left on the trees!









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Oct 20, 2020 22:52:46   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Whenever I read about how to take autumn pictures, there is always the suggestion to go out on a cloudy day. I can't understand that. It's cloudy right now, and I might just as well shoot B&W. As far as I'm concerned, it's the sun that brings out the colors. Since I'm shooting for myself, I'll wait for the sun to come out.

"The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar
That tomorrow
There'll be sun."
Whenever I read about how to take autumn pictures,... (show quote)


Agree, especially if you can position yourself to get back lit spots. You can even make a sunny high noon work if you get creative.

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