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Oct 19, 2020 18:35:16   #
ricosha Loc: Phoenix, Arizona
 
Dngallagher wrote:
Not to get too technical, BUT, cameras use pretty much USB 1 or 2...computers today can have USB 3.0 or 3.1.

There is a tremendous speed difference between USB 1 & 2 and USB 3.x

Depending on what you are downloading there will be a huge difference between 500 41 MB raw files vs 500 6 MB JPG files when using a USB connected camera vs doing the same with a USB 3.x card reader.

I have been transferring images by use of a card reader for many years now, shoot only raw, and will say, yes, the card reader option is definitely faster, way faster.
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Oct 19, 2020 19:28:34   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
As others have said, it doesn't matter which method you use. What does matter is how you handle the card or plug. Do not force it ever. I have been removing the card and plugging it into a reader since 2002 and have never had a problem, and I am partially tetraplegic.

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Oct 19, 2020 23:09:21   #
11bravo
 
I always use the remove card/card reader method:

1. Can use TeraCopy to copy the photos so the copies will be verified via checksums. Can also see the progress and any errors that occurred. Teracopy is freeware for both Windows and Mac. (Maybe things have changed - it's been a LONG time since I used a cable, but for some reason, Teracopy would not be an option when dragging/dropping from camera to computer. YMMV)

2. Depending on the camera's port, usually it's a micro usb, so don't have to worry about damaging any contacts if I try to insert a cable the wrong way.

I usually have a couple of cards to load (myself and travel partner) so it's just easier to take the cards out at the same time I'm removing the cameras' batteries to charge them (same doors).

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Oct 20, 2020 12:04:35   #
truckster Loc: Tampa Bay Area
 
chevman wrote:
if your camera has WiFi then you might consider using the WiFi feature. There are no physical connections to be made, no flimsy doors to break off, and no resulting damage to your SD card, or card slot.


It has snapbridge which has its own set of problems. I might explore that at a later time. thanks for replying.

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Oct 20, 2020 12:04:49   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
truckster wrote:
So I finally realized that with a cable and the right software installed I can transfer my images from my camera to my computer without having to remove the card. Haven't actually done it yet, but will soon.

My question is this, does it matter much in protecting my camera by using the cable method rather than pulling out the card all the time to upload my images?

My first digital camera used double A batteries and with the constant changing out of the batteries the access door latch wore out. Don't want that access door latch for the cards to break or the contacts to wear down on my expensive camera.

Just wondering what the Inteligencia here thinks about this.
So I finally realized that with a cable and the ri... (show quote)


It is USUALLY best to remove the memory card from the camera and use a card reader to download it. Card reader can be built into some computers... other times it might be an accessory.

If your camera uses SD memory cards or some of the newer types such as CFExpress, etc., it is BEST to remove the card from the camera and download via a card reader. This type of card uses contacts that are durable and not prone to wear. Older CompactFlash cards and some more obscure, ancient types used tiny "pins " (40 of them, in the case of CompactFlash). That type of memory card and the sockets in the camera could be damaged if a card wasn't inserted properly. It was pretty hard to do, but possible. To be fair, I used CompactFlash a lot... I'd guess more than one hundred different cards over the years... and never damaged one, in spite of doing a dozen or more fast card changes some days. I have never "worn out" a memory card or camera's card socket or done damage to the door covering the memory card (knock on wood!) I MIGHT use the cable tether to download image from a camera, if I were concerned the CompactFlash cards and socket were at risk. I also might use it if I only needed to download a few images from a single card, but that's rarely the case for me.

But with all other modern types of memory and in most cases, there are several reasons it's almost always much better to remove the memory from the camera and use a card reader.

1. It's safer for your images. When you use the cable tether method, where the camera itself is essentially acting as a card reader, the camera must remain powered up and be undisturbed. If the power runs down or you bump the camera during the data transfer, there's serious risk of corrupting your images. Card readers require no power (are powered by the compute itself) and can simply work in the background while you do other things on your computer.

2. The USB socket on the camera that's usually used for tethered downloads is more fragile and prone to damage than most types of memory card sockets. In addition, the USB socket in most cases is part of the main integrated circuit board of the camera, which would be expensive to replace if the USB socket were damaged. There would be a high price for the part itself, plus a lot of labor necessary to tear down the camera and replace it. In contrast, the memory card socket(s) are usually a separate module connected to the main board, less expensive and more easily replaced... should that ever be necessary.

3. If you shoot in volume and use multiple memory cards, it would make no sense to put the card back into the camera to download it. That just means yet another card swap, on top of the swaps you've already done. Why not just use a card reader? Multiply by however many cards you might use in a shoot. (Personally I sometimes fill 6, 8, 10 or more cards... but I make a point of not using huge cards to avoid "putting all my eggs in one basket". I use cards sized to accommodate between 250 and 500 images in my cameras.)

4. It can often be faster to download via a card reader. It depends upon the connectivity of your camera versus the type and connectivity of the card reader and your computer. If your camera has USB3, it may be pretty darned fast downloading. But if it's USB2 in the camera... and if your card reader/computer connects via USB3, internal connectivity, or several other high data transfer methods... the card reader method can be considerably faster than using the tethered download method.

5. Today another option is wireless downloading. This isn't practical with most WiFi... but more advanced Wireless File Transmitters with greater range and wireless network speeds and capacity can be viable.

Whatever method you use, always COPY images from your card to your computer. Never MOVE them! Moving removes the image from the card at the same time it's writing it to your computer. By instead copying it, you will still have the original image on the memory card in case something happens and the transfer gets messed up. I'd recommend keeping the image on the memory card until you have confirmed a successful transfer and backed it up safely. Only then, format the memory card in camera to prep it for new use. (This also encourages frequent in-camera formatting, which is a good thing.... However, when I'm working with multiple cards... which is often the case... I don't take the time or go to the trouble of reinserting each card and formatting it after the download. I just leave the old images on the card until the next time I swap that it into the camera, which I've got set up so that formatting only takes a few seconds.)

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Oct 20, 2020 12:10:14   #
truckster Loc: Tampa Bay Area
 
JeffR wrote:
The only way to be certain no part ever wears out is to never use your camera.


That, certainly, is not going to work for me.

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Oct 20, 2020 12:14:47   #
truckster Loc: Tampa Bay Area
 
frankraney wrote:
Don't know what you mean by the right software, but with Windows you don't need software windows will automatically recognize it as a drive.

For me it's easier just to pull the card put it in the reader and transfer it then format after I make sure I got the photos on the hard drive okay. It's quicker for me because I have to go get the cable out of the bag and it just takes more time it's faster to do it by removing the card.


If I use the cable connection I use Nikon's Image Capture software to get the images in my computer. If I plug the SD card into my laptop, I can transfer them easily with my existing MAC software through the Finder.

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Oct 20, 2020 12:25:53   #
truckster Loc: Tampa Bay Area
 
[quote=amfoto1
Whatever method you use, always COPY images from your card to your computer. Never MOVE them! Moving removes the image from the card at the same time it's writing it to your computer. By instead copying it, you will still have the original image on the memory card in case something happens and the transfer gets messed up. I'd recommend keeping the image on the memory card until you have confirmed a successful transfer and backed it up safely. Only then, format the memory card in camera to prep it for new use. [/quote]

Thanks for your reply. I have done this since day one and was thankful I did once, saving an image I screwed up after transferring to the computer. If I had move those images I would have lost it.

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Oct 20, 2020 17:04:37   #
11bravo
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Whatever method you use, always COPY images from your card to your computer. Never MOVE them! Moving removes the image from the card at the same time it's writing it to your computer. By instead copying it, you will still have the original image on the memory card in case something happens and the transfer gets messed up. I'd recommend keeping the image on the memory card until you have confirmed a successful transfer and backed it up safely. Only then, format the memory card in camera to prep it for new use. (This also encourages frequent in-camera formatting, which is a good thing.... However, when I'm working with multiple cards... which is often the case... I don't take the time or go to the trouble of reinserting each card and formatting it after the download. I just leave the old images on the card until the next time I swap that it into the camera, which I've got set up so that formatting only takes a few seconds.)
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truckster wrote:
Thanks for your reply. I have done this since day one and was thankful I did once, saving an image I screwed up after transferring to the computer. If I had move those images I would have lost it.
And it's why I continuously mention Teracopy (freeware, windows and Mac). It does a checksum on each file copied/moved (turn verify on) and shows you exactly what it's done. Having been once burnt 15 years ago, I've used it ever since.

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Oct 21, 2020 10:38:51   #
axiesdad Loc: Monticello, Indiana
 
truckster wrote:
So I finally realized that with a cable and the right software installed I can transfer my images from my camera to my computer without having to remove the card. Haven't actually done it yet, but will soon.

My question is this, does it matter much in protecting my camera by using the cable method rather than pulling out the card all the time to upload my images?

My first digital camera used double A batteries and with the constant changing out of the batteries the access door latch wore out. Don't want that access door latch for the cards to break or the contacts to wear down on my expensive camera.

Just wondering what the Inteligencia here thinks about this.
So I finally realized that with a cable and the ri... (show quote)


My own experience is that there is no problem here. I've had a D3100 for about six years now and always use the card to transfer pics to my computer. I've probably done it a thousand times. Not only that, but I've been using the same card (a PNY 8 gig) the whole time and the only damage to it is I've worn away part of the logo with all that handling.

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Oct 21, 2020 16:11:56   #
truckster Loc: Tampa Bay Area
 
A big thank you to all who answered. I have uploaded a few pics recently by cable. I think I will use that method for small to medium batches. I just, for some strange reason, have trouble opening that door to the cards (D500 has two) so the cable method will work. The USB port is ver.3 so speed isn't a factor. Again, thanks for all the help.

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