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Oct 9, 2020 12:46:22   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
n4jee wrote:
Since cost is not an option, there are 2 things I'd look for:
1. Capable of using semi automatic and manual modes.
2. Eye level viewfinder.
Number one to allow growth in the hobby and number 2 to be able to compose the shot in bright sunlight.
I bought my wife a Panasonic Lumix dmc-zs70 for those two reasons. It has a 20 MP sensor and an incredible zoom range. Price new: under $300.

Another choice: GE Power Pro X500 16 MP, 15x zoom and $99 new on eBay. I bought a used one for $25 as a loaner for Scouts going for the Photography Merit Badge.
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I believe the DMC-ZX70 has been replaced. It appears the Panasonic Lumix DCZS80 is the later version, but it is ~$400.

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Oct 9, 2020 13:56:12   #
timcc Loc: Virginia
 
I second (or third) the Olympus TG camera. You can find a used TG-4 or TG-5 at a reasonable price. They shoot underwater, take nice 12 mp shots out of water, have a close-up mode for bugs, etc., and are durable enough to survive an active 4 year old. If he outgrows it or loses interest, you can always reclaim it yourself as a good backup camera.

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Oct 9, 2020 13:56:13   #
timcc Loc: Virginia
 
Duplicate. Too bad we don't have a delete option for dups.

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Oct 9, 2020 14:44:40   #
Luft
 
rook2c4 wrote:
Four?!? Wait until the child is at least six years old before buying him a real camera. At four, children barely understand the difference between a real camera and a non-functional toy camera anyway. And there is the danger that the young child may figure out how to remove the SD card and lose it... or possibly even swallow it. Unless you will be there to carefully supervise him at all times while he uses the camera, a toy camera would be a much better, safer option. Understandably, as a grandparent you feel that your grandchild is exceptionally intelligent and mentally far more advanced than most other children of same age. But that is usually a false impression, not reality.
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Totally disagree. We don't give children the credit they deserve as capable PEOPLE. Piano teachers won't accept children under six, at least three years too late. Properly guided, a four year old who has been raised with respect will surprise the hell out of you. Yes, eye level finder, reasonable controls, access to manual and a thought to ruggedness. Plenty of choices.

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Oct 9, 2020 14:45:30   #
norm70 Loc: Maine
 
kODAK PRO PIX WPZ2 @129$ would be a good choice - waterproof durable easy to use out of the box. It also has features available to him as he grows and wants to get a little bit more involved.

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Oct 9, 2020 16:21:45   #
hj Loc: Florida
 
mvetrano2 wrote:
I have a 4-year old grandson who loves taking pictures with my iPhone. These pictures are clear and the composition is spot on, he has a great eye and gets excellent results.

I am looing to buy him his first camera. It has to be simple to use, but robust enough to take good pictures. I have seen the cameras made for children, and do not like them. I want a small simple point and shoot with less buttons and controls, but of good quality an sturdiness. Any suggestions, cost is not an issue?
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Based on your situation, I would highly recommend either the Canon Elph 330hs or Elph 340hs. I have the 330 and about six months ago sold my 340 just because I have six cameras and now I want to buy another one for back up. Rugged and great image quality. Easy to use and few buttons on the camera itself but lots of settings in the menu. Would be great for anyone including a young child because it is only 5 or 6 ounces in weight. The 330 has 10X zoom and the 340 has 12X zoom. You can get used ones on eBay for $50 - $80 dollars as I have done and it yo're areful you'll find one like new. I always look for one with the retail box included along with all original accessories including the charger and battery.

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Oct 9, 2020 16:35:39   #
TerryVS
 
rook2c4 wrote:
Four?!? Wait until the child is at least six years old before buying him a real camera. At four, children barely understand the difference between a real camera and a non-functional toy camera anyway. And there is the danger that the young child may figure out how to remove the SD card and lose it... or possibly even swallow it. Unless you will be there to carefully supervise him at all times while he uses the camera, a toy camera would be a much better, safer option. Understandably, as a grandparent you feel that your grandchild is exceptionally intelligent and mentally far more advanced than most other children of same age. But that is usually a false impression, not reality.
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Wow, apparently you've never raised a gifted child. It's never to early to mentor a child. My son decided to get his amateur (HAM) license at 6. He did. This included copying Morse code and a technical test. At 8 he was putting photos in a major metropolitan newspaper. At 9 he was offered a summer internship at the paper. At 10 he was the youngest member ever of NPPA. Early teens he was doing computer data recovery and analysis for law firms.

Thank God this gentleman has the ability to help his grandchild. Hopefully this kid never sees a public school and is allowed to fly. I don't see SD card munching in this kid's future!

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Oct 9, 2020 16:52:29   #
rochephoto
 
This post reminds me of a story. One time a few years ago my family and I were in Tucson for the holidays. We went to the hummingbird house at The Sonora Desert Museum. I had a brand new Canon 1Ds MkII with a 24-70 L zoom on it. I let my 7 year old son carefully take some pictures with it. A group of retirees saw him and one of them said “that’s a mighty nice camera for such a young man”. As soon as heard his remark I turned around and with a totally straight face I said “you know, he was a really good kid this year and I said he could have what ever he wants” Then I turned back around. Needless to say, he was dumbfounded and I never let on.

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Oct 9, 2020 17:31:36   #
Luft
 
rochephoto wrote:
This post reminds me of a story. One time a few years ago my family and I were in Tucson for the holidays. We went to the hummingbird house at The Sonora Desert Museum. I had a brand new Canon 1Ds MkII with a 24-70 L zoom on it. I let my 7 year old son carefully take some pictures with it. A group of retirees saw him and one of them said “that’s a mighty nice camera for such a young man”. As soon as heard his remark I turned around and with a totally straight face I said “you know, he was a really good kid this year and I said he could have what ever he wants” Then I turned back around. Needless to say, he was dumbfounded and I never let on.
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Great story. Reminds me of having to admonish my mother for commenting to my first son at three or four "My that's a big word for such a little boy." His cousins were brought up on baby talk. As I said, children are people, not "my baby", not to be seen and not heard. Respect!

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Oct 9, 2020 17:38:22   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
mvetrano2 wrote:
I have a 4-year old grandson who loves taking pictures with my iPhone. These pictures are clear and the composition is spot on, he has a great eye and gets excellent results.

I am looing to buy him his first camera. It has to be simple to use, but robust enough to take good pictures. I have seen the cameras made for children, and do not like them. I want a small simple point and shoot with less buttons and controls, but of good quality an sturdiness. Any suggestions, cost is not an issue?
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Cell phone should be perfect. Older model iPhones are cheap. Look for refurbished or used on ebay. >Alan

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Oct 9, 2020 17:39:28   #
Luft
 
TerryVS wrote:
Wow, apparently you've never raised a gifted child. It's never to early to mentor a child. My son decided to get his amateur (HAM) license at 6. He did. This included copying Morse code and a technical test. At 8 he was putting photos in a major metropolitan newspaper. At 9 he was offered a summer internship at the paper. At 10 he was the youngest member ever of NPPA. Early teens he was doing computer data recovery and analysis for law firms.

Thank God this gentleman has the ability to help his grandchild. Hopefully this kid never sees a public school and is allowed to fly. I don't see SD card munching in this kid's future!
Wow, apparently you've never raised a gifted child... (show quote)


Right on! Give them a chance to develop their brains, their dexterity, expand their curiosity, understand the world and how things work, read as young as possible. Congratulations on your home schooling and providing the conditions for your son to flourish.

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Oct 9, 2020 17:46:26   #
Photocraig
 
BebuLamar wrote:
You can connect the Iphone to a computer, upload the images then save onto an SD card.


I do it ALL the time! I'm firmly in the phone camp especially for someone so young. I think using Phone or PC based editing and a Printing budget might be good. OR, upgrade the phone to another older obsolete one with more MP's. My SE has 9, I think and I use 3 other Photo Apps that allow Aperture and Shutters Speed adjustments. Kids are touch screen oriented. A thought. My Canon can be completely controlled by the Canon iPhone app. I'm thinking a filed or studio exercise with my DSLR tripod mounted and controlled by a child aiming it and choosing exposure and focus on the phone. A Hybrid approach stepping stone.

Good luck,
C

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Oct 9, 2020 17:50:14   #
Photocraig
 
mvetrano2 wrote:
I am a photographer and he is always wanting to shoot with my, much too heavy fro him, professional Canon equipment. He may be only 4, but he understands composition with an uncanny eye for good photos. I don’t think a toy camera will keep him interested, and I think they are a total waste of money.


I agree. See my reply above. Keep with the screen. they're all programmed for that. Mount your camera on a tripod and use the Canon Connect app on the iPhone and let the4 year old "Drive" teh big camera with the phone. Check it out, it's amazing. I use it all the time for top results.

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Oct 9, 2020 18:16:01   #
mvetrano2 Loc: Commack, NY
 
To stress my point on his ability for composition and good photos, check on a few my 4-year old grandson took with my iPhone in the photos section labled "4-yer old's photos. The child deserves a camera of his own, he has talent for a 4-year old.

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Oct 9, 2020 18:19:16   #
Joecosentino Loc: Whitesboro, New York
 
I agree with the T6. It can survive a fall and water submersion and it also gives you a nice rugged point in shoot for you to use. I love mine

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