Important Reading for Users of Cameras and Other Devices Designed in Japan
Oct 5, 2020 10:00:36 #
Oct 5, 2020 10:19:38 #
rehess wrote:
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/japan-s-unusual-way-to-view-the-world?utm_source=pocket-newtab
This has nothing to do with high quality precision equipment. "Wabi Sabi" is frequently interpreted to mean "Perfectly Imperfect". There are numerous books on the subject.
Oct 5, 2020 10:19:47 #
I don't think the Japanese camera companies will honor this belief as far as producing cameras for the world market. It would be the end of the first camera brand to embrace it. It may be fine for art, not for engineered products.
Oct 5, 2020 11:07:28 #
Worth looking at this to see the philosophy applied to cameras:
http://superheadz.com/dh3/en_about.php
http://superheadz.com/dh3/en_about.php
Oct 5, 2020 11:42:32 #
My point was that the Japanese way of thinking differs from our. This may not be a good example, but we need to be careful when thinking that our logic should apply.
Oct 5, 2020 11:55:47 #
rehess wrote:
My point was that the Japanese way of thinking differs from our. This may not be a good example, but we need to be careful when thinking that our logic should apply.
I think they're smarter than to applying it anywhere outside their country. It's not really relevant. How respected is Feng Shui outside Asian cultures?
Oct 5, 2020 11:58:52 #
Gasman57 wrote:
I think they're smarter than to applying it anywhere outside their country. It's not really relevant.
I have seen lots of discussions trying to figure out why a particular camera is designed in a particular way. Those discussions are what I was thinking of.
Oct 5, 2020 12:03:28 #
The article is an excellent presentation on how the Japanese view art in general, and ceramics in particular. However, the concept is difficult for many, if not most, Westerners to fully grasp.
Pertaining to other aspects of Japanese life, such as industry, camera manufacturing, auto manufacturing, and general manufacturing in particular, the Japanese are perfectionists.
They also do extensive quality control, extensive group surveys and testing, and their products (especially for the export markets) are held to tight tolerances that exceed the West in many cases.
Wabi-Sabi does NOT apply to camera or lens manufacturing.
I lived in Japan for many years, so I believe I can speak to this issue.
Pertaining to other aspects of Japanese life, such as industry, camera manufacturing, auto manufacturing, and general manufacturing in particular, the Japanese are perfectionists.
They also do extensive quality control, extensive group surveys and testing, and their products (especially for the export markets) are held to tight tolerances that exceed the West in many cases.
Wabi-Sabi does NOT apply to camera or lens manufacturing.
I lived in Japan for many years, so I believe I can speak to this issue.
Oct 5, 2020 12:27:15 #
rehess wrote:
I have seen lots of discussions trying to figure out why a particular camera is designed in a particular way. Those discussions are what I was thinking of.
Fair enough.
Oct 5, 2020 12:33:29 #
rehess wrote:
I have seen lots of discussions trying to figure out why a particular camera is designed in a particular way. Those discussions are what I was thinking of.
That has nothing to do with Wabi Sabi. Your question was poorly worded and misdirecting.
Oct 6, 2020 07:36:26 #
Imho abi sabi could be used to define the difference between hand made and machine made...
hand made objects have imperfections that can be seen...
however the imperfection is perfectly imperfect.
For example, impressionist paintings when viewed at close
range are brush stroke and daubs of paint... Stand back a bit
and you have wabi sabi?
hand made objects have imperfections that can be seen...
however the imperfection is perfectly imperfect.
For example, impressionist paintings when viewed at close
range are brush stroke and daubs of paint... Stand back a bit
and you have wabi sabi?
Oct 6, 2020 08:20:49 #
whfowle
Loc: Tampa first, now Albuquerque
For a westerner, understanding the eastern point of view is very hard. One has to experience it for a period of time and even then not fully grasp it. I lived and worked in the outskirts of Tokyo for a number of years over several decades. What I appreciated most was how they found a way to retain so much open undeveloped land within the largest city in the world that is otherwise densely populated. Even in their tiny yards, they kept areas in a natural state. It seems they always want serenity near them so they can enjoy some form of peace. Nature is by itself full of imperfections and so they have developed an eye for keeping this element in whatever they do and make. I think it has something to do with their need to be near nature.
Oct 7, 2020 07:48:31 #
whfowle wrote:
For a westerner, understanding the eastern point of view is very hard. One has to experience it for a period of time and even then not fully grasp it. ... It seems they always want serenity near them so they can enjoy some form of peace. Nature is by itself full of imperfections and so they have developed an eye for keeping this element in whatever they do and make. I think it has something to do with their need to be near nature.
Good observations; I agree with you.
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