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Sep 26, 2020 10:05:55   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
If your current gear is doing what you need it to do, and getting the results you need, there is no reason to get the latest and greatest. If you have plenty of $ and serious GAS go for the R5.. If you don't print bigger than 16X24 the difference in MP won't matter anyway. I still use the 7year old 7D. And have 16X24 prints, that you can't see noise at 6inches away

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Sep 26, 2020 10:14:17   #
JOHNERIKSSON Loc: CENTRAL WISCONSIN
 
Nice to read your reply. but I can only repeat what I was told by the professional service people. Yes you will get great results with the EOS lenses but because the new lens are designed for the camera - the glass is closer to the sensor you will get better results sharper, clearer and less noise with the new lens

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Sep 26, 2020 10:35:51   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
JOHNERIKSSON wrote:
Nice to read your reply. but I can only repeat what I was told by the professional service people. Yes you will get great results with the EOS lenses but because the new lens are designed for the camera - the glass is closer to the sensor you will get better results sharper, clearer and less noise with the new lens


To clarify, a shorter flange distance has a couple of advantages, but they are NOT less noise or “clearer” images. First, it changes the design constraints of certain lens designs which CAN result in less distortion or sharper images, and secondly, it allows the use of non native lenses with simple lensless adapters (which allow focus at infinity).

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Sep 26, 2020 10:41:48   #
bleirer
 
JOHNERIKSSON wrote:
Nice to read your reply. but I can only repeat what I was told by the professional service people. Yes you will get great results with the EOS lenses but because the new lens are designed for the camera - the glass is closer to the sensor you will get better results sharper, clearer and less noise with the new lens


I don't think one can make such a broad claim, though there are some sweet RF lenses if your budget allows. It depends on the lenses being compared for similar prices. I have the EF 100mm macro and the EF 100-400 L version one and the RF 24-105L and I often choose the EF over the RF even for non macro shots. Check out some lenses side by side and read some comparative reviews here, you might be surprised. https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx

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Sep 26, 2020 11:47:02   #
Gladys
 
Thanks

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Sep 26, 2020 11:52:08   #
Gladys
 
My best and favorite lens is the canon 100-400

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Sep 26, 2020 12:20:37   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Gladys wrote:
I have been photographing wildlife and nature with my T7i for about 2 years. I have Canon EF lenses. So, my question is would you get the R6 knowing that the megapixels is 20 vs the T7i’s 24 megapixels? Thank you!


The bigger question is , Do you have big enough lenses to accommodate the full frame field of view for the wildlife and nature genre ?? 20MP on full frame is not great for cropping.
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Sep 26, 2020 12:35:35   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Gladys wrote:
My best and favorite lens is the canon 100-400


With full frame, you WILL need a 1.4X to go with it and AF will suffer.....
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Sep 26, 2020 12:39:19   #
bleirer
 
Gladys wrote:
My best and favorite lens is the canon 100-400


You've gotten used to the equivalent of a 600mm lens that will only act like a 400mm lens on the r6.

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Sep 26, 2020 13:14:38   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
LFingar wrote:
The vast majority of people, and that probably includes you, will never notice the difference between 20mp and 24mp if the sensors are both the same size. In this case the R6 is full frame and the T7i is a crop sensor. For wildlife a crop sensor is often preferred in part because you can often get a tighter shot that doesn't require as much cropping. Cropping a 20mp full frame shot to match a 24mp crop sensor shot will produce a noticeable loss of IQ in most cases.
If you wish to go mirrorless I would either aim for the much higher mp R5 or wait and see if Canon brings out a mirrorless crop sensor body in 2021 as reports say they will.
As you probably know, your EF lenses will work perfectly on any of the R series, but, you will need the adapter.
The vast majority of people, and that probably inc... (show quote)


I second all the above. In addition, most of your crop body lenses will give less then satisfying results on any full frame. This is due to the fact that cropping to match the crop body crop reduces the portion of the sensor used by 1/1.6 in both length and width. 1/1.6²=0.39 ! 61% of the pixels won't be used in that crop! 0.39 X 20 MP = 7.8 MP. While much more than a typical computer monitor can display, still well below today's standard for an image right out of the camera.

EDIT: Losing the crop factor will make a significant difference in performance. See my response https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/tpr?p=11589317&t=665371

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Sep 26, 2020 13:22:39   #
bleirer
 
PHRubin wrote:
I second all the above. In addition, most of your crop body lenses will give less then satisfying results on any full frame. This is due to the fact that cropping to match the crop body crop reduces the portion of the sensor used by 1/1.6 in both length and width. 1/1.6²=0.39 ! 61% of the pixels won't be used in that crop! 0.39 X 20 MP = 7.8 MP. While much more than a typical computer monitor can display, still well below today's standard for an image right out of the camera.

EDIT: Losing the crop factor will make a significant difference in performance. See my response https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/tpr?p=11589317&t=665371
I second all the above. In addition, most of your ... (show quote)


The OP has EF lenses which will use all the pixels in the full frame camera. If they were ef-s lenses you would see the reduction.

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Sep 26, 2020 13:46:33   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
bleirer wrote:
The OP has EF lenses which will use all the pixels in the full frame camera. If they were ef-s lenses you would see the reduction.


None-the-less, for wildlife, losing the crop factor is a hardship.

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Sep 26, 2020 14:24:55   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
PHRubin wrote:
None-the-less, for wildlife, losing the crop factor is a hardship.



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Sep 26, 2020 15:23:53   #
maciej
 
I have my feet in both camps with an R and 5D4. I have some RF lenses and a lot of EFL lenses. The RF lenses are excellent however I am hard pressed to see any difference with the EFL lenses used with the adapter. The in body stabilization in the R5 and R6 are quite attractive. I personally have voted for the R5 - and am waiting.

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Sep 26, 2020 15:42:52   #
jdub82 Loc: Northern California
 
bleirer wrote:
The OP has EF lenses which will use all the pixels in the full frame camera. If they were ef-s lenses you would see the reduction.



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