usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl

How many coal plants are there in the world today?
Green New Deal???
The EU has 468 - building 27 more... Total 495
Turkey has 56 - building 93 more... Total 149
South Africa has 79 - building 24 more... Total 103
India has 589 - building 446 more... Total 1035
Philippines has 19 - building 60 more... Total 79
South Korea has 58 - building 26 more... Total 84
Japan has 90 - building 45 more.... Total 135
China has 2,363 -
building 1,171 more... Total 3,534
That’s 5,615 projected coal powered plants in just
8 countries.

USA has 15 - building 0 more...Total 15

And Democrat politicians with their "green new deal” want to shut down those 15 plants in order to "save” the planet.


I knew the rough idea about the number of coal plants, but had not yet seen actual numbers until now.

This makes the point. Wh**ever the USA does or doesn’t do won’t make a Tinker’s Dam regarding CO2 unless the rest of the world, especially China and India reduces coal-fired power plants as well.

The whole “g****l w*****g” and “c*****e c****e” gambits by climate N**is are to create a *supposedly* sound, scientific basis to justify a federal government power-grab and the passage of MORE laws to increase taxes and increased control of the privately owned power industry and its distribution. Never forget the *main* motivation they have!

“Oh, we will SAVE the planet!!” 100% Pure Bull

mwalsh Loc: Houston

You might want to fact check that "15" plants number.




It's closer to 241.

Coal plants are on the decline and are being replaced by natural gas..but the 15 number is a little ludicrous.

travelwp Loc: New Jersey

And..... they operate at night and on days when the wind isn't very strong.

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Some also have no issue with peeing in the pool. Especially at night with little wind.

InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA

I walk by an industrial, coal-fired, co-gen facility every day at work. There are still a few around. With modern (1970s technology) electrostatic precipitators you can't see any smoke coming out of the stack at all. Still, the federal, state, and local EPA like to make hoops that are nearly impossible to jump through and we'll probably change that unit out for a gas burner soon.

One of the biggest power grabs in the nation was letting the EPA mandate and regulate CO2 emissions.

steve03 Loc: long Lsland

btbg

His numbers may be slightly off, but the point is not. We could shut our country completely down and go 100 percent green, which would be catastrophic for us as a nation and the worlds production of CO2 would still go up.

That's the point. Democrats want to spend billions of dollars and potentially destroy the U.S. economy to "save or planet" when it won't do a thing because the rest of the world is doing nothing. That was what was wrong with the environmental deal that so many on the left were mad at Trump for getting us out of. It would have forced us to go more green, while allowing China and other major polluters to increase their pollution.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

It is much cheaper to burn natural gas than coal.

usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl

You kind of missed the whole point of my thread didn’t you there’s nothing we can do as long as India China and other Asian nations are continuing to build coal plants. But then again you were probably a greener so the whole thing went right over your head.

mwalsh Loc: Houston

All I did was point out that the numerical basis of the argument, the basis your point was founded on, was grossly in error.

Why does pointing out a factual mistake make me a greener?

Why jump to that assumption?

usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl

I’m sure you are mathematically proficient so compare Asian coal plants to the US and then get back to me, whether 15 or 240 something.

mwalsh Loc: Houston

I understand that it is extemely difficult for many of us to admit making a basic mistake, like pasting some propaganda which has a gross error of fact built in....and such an easy to fact check mistatement at that.


I don't know much about AOC's New Green Deal. Untill it gets any meaningful support, I'll let her bark and ignore her.

The thought that we should shut down all our coal plants while the rest of the world has 10 or 15 or 20 times as many is rather silly. China and India are becoming if they are not already, the world's greatest producers of greenhouse gasses. We can't change the world...but then again the world won't change if we ignore the issue.

The idea that capitalism will over time close our plants dues to better cheaper alternatives like nat gas...is entirely appropriate.

Obama's "historic" deal with China regarding gas emmissions was an empty crock of pooh...much like most of his "historic" deals. We agreed to continue cutting emisions and China agreed to start doing "something" about it in 15 years.

Ridiculous to call that a deal.



There is a statisically signficant difference between 15 and 241...just own the error.