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Sep 19, 2020 15:28:55   #
smf85 Loc: Freeport, IL
 
This is my opinion and no one else.

I want a strict constructionist jurist who will carefully consider the plain language of a statue, the on the record statements made by the people who v**ed for/against the law creation and the accumulated precedent on the subject. Who will remorselessly hew to what the statute writers intended and the existing precedents then filter that through a strict constructionist view of the constitution.

Who will act according to the law and constitution without regard to politics, his personal beliefs, the beliefs of the President who nominated him, the opinion of any theological institution, or anything else. Who will not use either liberal or reactionary activism to advance an agenda, either his or anyone else's. Who will not hesitate to dump a legislative problem on the legislature and exhort them that they must negotiate and compromise and fix it themselves. Who understands the value of precedent and will only argue to overturn it if the facts & issues at hand overwhelmingly demand it. Who will not hesitate to side with the executive or legislative view according to the law. Who will create opinions and establish majority positions based on the law no matter how much everyone else dislikes it.

Thats what I'd like to see as the next Justice. In short, someone who pisses off ALL the commentators, no matter their position.

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Sep 19, 2020 15:33:29   #
melismus Loc: Chesapeake Bay Country
 
Then make eight clones of him/her.

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Sep 19, 2020 16:07:22   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
smf85 wrote:
This is my opinion and no one else.

I want a strict constructionist jurist who will carefully consider the plain language of a statue, the on the record statements made by the people who v**ed for/against the law creation and the accumulated precedent on the subject. Who will remorselessly hew to what the statute writers intended and the existing precedents then filter that through a strict constructionist view of the constitution.

Who will act according to the law and constitution without regard to politics, his personal beliefs, the beliefs of the President who nominated him, the opinion of any theological institution, or anything else. Who will not use either liberal or reactionary activism to advance an agenda, either his or anyone else's. Who will not hesitate to dump a legislative problem on the legislature and exhort them that they must negotiate and compromise and fix it themselves. Who understands the value of precedent and will only argue to overturn it if the facts & issues at hand overwhelmingly demand it. Who will not hesitate to side with the executive or legislative view according to the law. Who will create opinions and establish majority positions based on the law no matter how much everyone else dislikes it.

Thats what I'd like to see as the next Justice. In short, someone who pisses off ALL the commentators, no matter their position.
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An an originalist. Sounds good to me. Make rulings that conform to the constitution, no matter who it pisses off.

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Sep 19, 2020 18:41:27   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
smf85 wrote:
This is my opinion and no one else..


Why do you think no one else has this opinion?

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Sep 19, 2020 20:32:16   #
smf85 Loc: Freeport, IL
 
travelwp wrote:
Why do you think no one else has this opinion?


I don’t think that at all, I simply wanted to state how felt. It would be great if enough people had a similar opinion to actually get such a justice. Perhaps if such a jurist blows up both sides of the isle enough times something might get done well in Washington.

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Sep 19, 2020 21:10:44   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
smf85 wrote:
This is my opinion and no one else.

I want a strict constructionist jurist who will carefully consider the plain language of a statue, the on the record statements made by the people who v**ed for/against the law creation and the accumulated precedent on the subject. Who will remorselessly hew to what the statute writers intended and the existing precedents then filter that through a strict constructionist view of the constitution.

Who will act according to the law and constitution without regard to politics, his personal beliefs, the beliefs of the President who nominated him, the opinion of any theological institution, or anything else. Who will not use either liberal or reactionary activism to advance an agenda, either his or anyone else's. Who will not hesitate to dump a legislative problem on the legislature and exhort them that they must negotiate and compromise and fix it themselves. Who understands the value of precedent and will only argue to overturn it if the facts & issues at hand overwhelmingly demand it. Who will not hesitate to side with the executive or legislative view according to the law. Who will create opinions and establish majority positions based on the law no matter how much everyone else dislikes it.

Thats what I'd like to see as the next Justice. In short, someone who pisses off ALL the commentators, no matter their position.
This is my opinion and no one else. br br I want ... (show quote)


Thank you. I’m with you.

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Sep 19, 2020 23:40:00   #
btbg
 
smf85 wrote:
This is my opinion and no one else.

I want a strict constructionist jurist who will carefully consider the plain language of a statue, the on the record statements made by the people who v**ed for/against the law creation and the accumulated precedent on the subject. Who will remorselessly hew to what the statute writers intended and the existing precedents then filter that through a strict constructionist view of the constitution.

Who will act according to the law and constitution without regard to politics, his personal beliefs, the beliefs of the President who nominated him, the opinion of any theological institution, or anything else. Who will not use either liberal or reactionary activism to advance an agenda, either his or anyone else's. Who will not hesitate to dump a legislative problem on the legislature and exhort them that they must negotiate and compromise and fix it themselves. Who understands the value of precedent and will only argue to overturn it if the facts & issues at hand overwhelmingly demand it. Who will not hesitate to side with the executive or legislative view according to the law. Who will create opinions and establish majority positions based on the law no matter how much everyone else dislikes it.

Thats what I'd like to see as the next Justice. In short, someone who pisses off ALL the commentators, no matter their position.
This is my opinion and no one else. br br I want ... (show quote)


I agree with you except for one thing. I don't think they should pay too much attention to precedent. It is pretty tough to take a strictly constructionist viewpoint and try to reconcile that to some of the current precedents which have no basis in either the constitution or constructionist review of current laws.

Roberts ruling on the affordablecare act is a perfect example. Would h**e to be bound by that kind of precedent. Otherwise 100 percent agree.

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Sep 20, 2020 07:42:42   #
melismus Loc: Chesapeake Bay Country
 
Hooray! A rational discussion in the Attic.

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Sep 20, 2020 07:51:54   #
Triple G
 
I’m happy to see the move from conservative versus liberal to discussion of constitutional interpretation.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R45129.pdf

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Sep 20, 2020 07:58:05   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
smf85 wrote:
This is my opinion and no one else.

I want a strict constructionist jurist who will carefully consider the plain language of a statue, the on the record statements made by the people who v**ed for/against the law creation and the accumulated precedent on the subject. Who will remorselessly hew to what the statute writers intended and the existing precedents then filter that through a strict constructionist view of the constitution.

Who will act according to the law and constitution without regard to politics, his personal beliefs, the beliefs of the President who nominated him, the opinion of any theological institution, or anything else. Who will not use either liberal or reactionary activism to advance an agenda, either his or anyone else's. Who will not hesitate to dump a legislative problem on the legislature and exhort them that they must negotiate and compromise and fix it themselves. Who understands the value of precedent and will only argue to overturn it if the facts & issues at hand overwhelmingly demand it. Who will not hesitate to side with the executive or legislative view according to the law. Who will create opinions and establish majority positions based on the law no matter how much everyone else dislikes it.

Thats what I'd like to see as the next Justice. In short, someone who pisses off ALL the commentators, no matter their position.
This is my opinion and no one else. br br I want ... (show quote)



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Sep 20, 2020 10:21:31   #
Bill 45
 
smf85 wrote:
This is my opinion and no one else.

I want a strict constructionist jurist who will carefully consider the plain language of a statue, the on the record statements made by the people who v**ed for/against the law creation and the accumulated precedent on the subject. Who will remorselessly hew to what the statute writers intended and the existing precedents then filter that through a strict constructionist view of the constitution.

Who will act according to the law and constitution without regard to politics, his personal beliefs, the beliefs of the President who nominated him, the opinion of any theological institution, or anything else. Who will not use either liberal or reactionary activism to advance an agenda, either his or anyone else's. Who will not hesitate to dump a legislative problem on the legislature and exhort them that they must negotiate and compromise and fix it themselves. Who understands the value of precedent and will only argue to overturn it if the facts & issues at hand overwhelmingly demand it. Who will not hesitate to side with the executive or legislative view according to the law. Who will create opinions and establish majority positions based on the law no matter how much everyone else dislikes it.

Thats what I'd like to see as the next Justice. In short, someone who pisses off ALL the commentators, no matter their position.
This is my opinion and no one else. br br I want ... (show quote)


You are not going to get that kind of person from Moron the First.

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Sep 20, 2020 11:26:38   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
how about 15 or 17 such judges?

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Sep 20, 2020 11:32:23   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Why make a rule that
1. The number of justices must be an even number.
And
2. Only a conservative President can appoint a replacement for a conservative appointed justice.

That forced the justices to rule on the law if they want a decision .

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Sep 20, 2020 11:43:13   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
btbg wrote:
I agree with you except for one thing. I don't think they should pay too much attention to precedent. It is pretty tough to take a strictly constructionist viewpoint and try to reconcile that to some of the current precedents which have no basis in either the constitution or constructionist review of current laws.

Roberts ruling on the affordablecare act is a perfect example. Would h**e to be bound by that kind of precedent. Otherwise 100 percent agree.




A precedent should not change if it was based on constitutional law- since the constitution has not changed - only the opinion of the justice(s).
I think that is the basis for “ Stare decisis“ - it has already been decided once.
It is not just a Supreme Court issue. It is why you see the volumes and volumes of law books behind lawyer desk,

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Sep 20, 2020 11:50:09   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Triple G wrote:
I’m happy to see the move from conservative versus liberal to discussion of constitutional interpretation.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R45129.pdf


The key word in your post is "interpretation" Person a 's interpertation may e different than person b and both could be wrong. the constitution must be followed NOT interpretated. It is not a flexable document as RBG has said. A justice may not invent constitutional changes. Thyere is a mechanism For that--ammendment

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