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Sep 27, 2012 23:40:20   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
KW Conch wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
KW Conch wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Funny, the wars were approved by the Democrats too...do your research

KW Conch wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Defeated because of a funding issue....Do your research...

KW Conch wrote:
FLandWVMIKE wrote:
KW Conch wrote:
FLandWVMIKE wrote:
Typical leftist strategy - Keep knocking Romney to keep the focus off of the failures of BO.
Let's hear how proud you are of the national debt, the unemployment and the hatred of the USA.


It is surprising that Obama can get anything done as the stated goal of the Republican leadership is to make him a one term president and oppose everything he puts forth, even if it was a GOP idea in the first place.
I'm not anti Romney, I just resent the Republicans putting party over country and worshipping at the altar of Grover Norquist.
quote=FLandWVMIKE Typical leftist strategy - Keep... (show quote)


K W CONCH ........................
It's WHAT BO is trying to do, that the Republicans are against. The Republicans do not want a Socialist Government and will do everything to stop it. If BO gets back in, there will be four more years of opposing his efforts.
quote=KW Conch quote=FLandWVMIKE Typical leftist... (show quote)


A recent example took place last week. The administration put forth a jobs bill to train returning vets for available jobs and the Republicans shot it down. Well...so much for supporting our troops.
quote=FLandWVMIKE quote=KW Conch quote=FLandWVM... (show quote)
Defeated because of a funding issue....Do your res... (show quote)


It has a cost of $1 billion attached to the bill. I did my research, did you? I guess $1 billion is too much for the vets, but a couple trillion for the wars are just fine. Weak excuse.
quote=Screamin Scott Defeated because of a fundin... (show quote)
Funny, the wars were approved by the Democrats too... (show quote)


Based on faulty intelligence by the Bush administration. Democrats supported the President, unlike the current crop of Republican misfits.
quote=Screamin Scott Funny, the wars were approve... (show quote)


Speaking of faulty intelligence....... Just what in the hell have these last two weeks been about?????????

GM's alive and Osama is dead! Looks like there is faulty intelligence on both counts.... As the Muslim world told the president in uprisings in 20 countries last week, there are 1.5 billion Osama's and now we learn that Al Queda is making a resurgence in several different countries and we have decimated noting other than our own intelligence!!!!! Way to go president Obama!!!!

Oh! and GM.... Won't be long before they are back at the public Trough...
quote=KW Conch quote=Screamin Scott Funny, the w... (show quote)


It has been a joy to debate you gentlemen. I am going to declare victory and get some much needed beauty sleep.
quote=Blurryeyed quote=KW Conch quote=Screamin ... (show quote)


Victory? I do like your sense of humor.

Reply
Sep 28, 2012 00:28:26   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
RixPix wrote:
Just asking?


I think it only fitting to use your own words directed at another poster who posted something that he did not quite understand was less than true about the ACA...

Quote:
My guess it that you either do not know or do not care how you are perceived. You have an agenda and for some unknown reason have chosen to push it here on this board. It is truly a shame that your ignorance or your avarice that has led you to this point in your life. Obviously you are a motivated individual too bad your motivations are directed in such a manner as to discredit yourself as an honorable human being.

I meant what I said and said what I meant...an elephant's faithful 100 percent.
My guess it that you either do not know or do not ... (show quote)

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Sep 28, 2012 02:13:38   #
AUminer Loc: Brandon, Ms
 
The problem was that the 1 billion was over the budget but then again, I guess the Fed can just have QE4 and extend the debt some more while devalueing the dollar on the world market. Also, this administration has shown it has no regard for rules and regs and that is what they were trying to do with this bill: use accounting tricks to make it appear that the cost was within budget.
KW Conch wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Defeated because of a funding issue....Do your research...

KW Conch wrote:
FLandWVMIKE wrote:
KW Conch wrote:
FLandWVMIKE wrote:
Typical leftist strategy - Keep knocking Romney to keep the focus off of the failures of BO.
Let's hear how proud you are of the national debt, the unemployment and the hatred of the USA.


It is surprising that Obama can get anything done as the stated goal of the Republican leadership is to make him a one term president and oppose everything he puts forth, even if it was a GOP idea in the first place.
I'm not anti Romney, I just resent the Republicans putting party over country and worshipping at the altar of Grover Norquist.
quote=FLandWVMIKE Typical leftist strategy - Keep... (show quote)


K W CONCH ........................
It's WHAT BO is trying to do, that the Republicans are against. The Republicans do not want a Socialist Government and will do everything to stop it. If BO gets back in, there will be four more years of opposing his efforts.
quote=KW Conch quote=FLandWVMIKE Typical leftist... (show quote)


A recent example took place last week. The administration put forth a jobs bill to train returning vets for available jobs and the Republicans shot it down. Well...so much for supporting our troops.
quote=FLandWVMIKE quote=KW Conch quote=FLandWVM... (show quote)
Defeated because of a funding issue....Do your res... (show quote)


It has a cost of $1 billion attached to the bill. I did my research, did you? I guess $1 billion is too much for the vets, but a couple trillion for the wars are just fine. Weak excuse.
quote=Screamin Scott Defeated because of a fundin... (show quote)

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Sep 28, 2012 09:28:25   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
This is understandable since the debt increases on a daily basis. It's hard to keep track.
Bmac wrote:
RixPix wrote:
Just asking?

If Obama is such a good president how come he didn't know what the US debt was the other evening on Letterman?

Reply
Sep 28, 2012 09:46:21   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Sounds like just another excuse to me...He should at least know a ballpark figure...

EdJ0307 wrote:
This is understandable since the debt increases on a daily basis. It's hard to keep track.
Bmac wrote:
RixPix wrote:
Just asking?

If Obama is such a good president how come he didn't know what the US debt was the other evening on Letterman?

Reply
Sep 28, 2012 11:18:27   #
Lancer W/A Canon Loc: atlanta
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
rozarius wrote:
There has never been a more important presidential race than this one. I highly suggest that all you Obama-ites read the following and cast your vote very, very carefully.

From: John Porter
To: Americans everywhere
I was sitting at my keyboard halfway through my writing a letter to you about how Barack Obama was fulfilling his pledge to "Transform America" by "Changing the fundamentals of America ," so that our government would become the plantation, he the owner, and we the slaves, when this article by Steve McCann appeared in my in box. After checking it for accuracy, and finding it to be so, I put my writing on hold and here present it to you, for I could not say it better.
----------------------------------------------------------------

Obama's Second Term Transformation Plans

The 2012 election has often been described as the most pivotal since 1860.This statement is not hyperbole. If Barack Obama is re-elected the United States will never be the same, nor will it be able to re-capture its once lofty status as the most dominant nation in the history of mankind.
The overwhelming majority of Americans do not understand that Obama's first term was dedicated to putting in place executive power to enable him and the administration to fulfill the campaign promise of "transforming America " in his second term regardless of which political party controls Congress. That is why his re-election team is virtually ignoring the plight of incumbent or prospective Democratic Party office holders.
The most significant accomplishment of Obama's first term was to make Congress irrelevant. Under the myopic and blindly loyal leadership of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, the Democrats have succeeded in creating an imperial and, in a second term, a potential dictatorial presidency.
During the first two years of the Obama administration when the Democrats overwhelming controlled both Houses of Congress and the media was in an Obama worshipping stupor, a myriad of laws were passed and actions taken which transferred virtually unlimited power to the executive branch.
The birth of multi-thousand page laws was not an aberration. This tactic was adopted so the bureaucracy controlled by Obama appointees would have sole discretion in interpreting vaguely written laws and enforcing thousands of pages of regulations they and not Congress would subsequently write.
For example, in the 2,700 pages of ObamaCare there are more than 2,500 references to the Secretary of Health and Human Services. There are more than 700 instances when he or she is instructed that they "shall" do something and more than 200 times when they "may" take at their sole discretion some form of regulatory action. On 139 occasions, the law mentions that the "Secretary determines." In essence one person, appointed by and reporting to the president, will be in charge of the health care of 310 million Americans once ObamaCare is fully operational in 2014.
The same is true in the 2,319 pages of the Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Act which confers nearly unlimited power on various agencies to control by fiat the nation's financial, banking and investment sectors. The bill also creates new agencies, such as the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, not subject to any oversight by Congress. This overall process was repeated numerous times with other legislation all with the intent of granting unfettered power to the executive branch controlled by Barack Obama and his radical associates.
Additionally, the Obama administration has, through its unilaterally determined rule making and regulatory powers, created laws out of whole cloth. The Environmental Protection Agency on a near daily basis issues new regulations clearly out of their purview in order to modify and change environmental laws previously passed and to impose a radical green agenda never approved by Congress. The same is true of the Energy and Interior Departments among many others.
None of these extra-constitutional actions have been challenged by Congress. The left in America knows this usurpation of power is nearly impossible to reverse unless stopped in its early stages.
It is clearly the mindset of this administration and its appointees that Congress is merely a nuisance and can be ignored after they were able to take full advantage of the useful idiots in the Democrat controlled House and Senate in 2009-2010 and the Democrat Senate in the current Congress.
Additionally, Barack Obama knows after his re-election a Republican controlled House and Senate will not be able to enact any legislation to roll back the power previously granted to the Executive Branch or usurped by them. His veto will not be overridden as there will always be at least 145 Democratic members of the House or 34 in the Senate in agreement with or intimidated by an administration more than willing to use Chicago style political tactics.
The stalemate between the Executive and Legislative Branches will inure to the benefit of Barack Obama and his fellow leftists.
The most significant power Congress has is the control of the purse-strings as all spending must be approved by them However,once re-elected, Barack Obama, as confirmed by his willingness to do or say anything and his unscrupulous re-election tactics,would not only threaten government shutdowns but would deliberately withhold payments to those dependent on government support as a means of intimidating and forcing a Republican controlled Congress to surrender to his demands, thus neutering their ability to control the administration through spending constraints.
Further, this administration has shown contempt for the courts by ignoring various court orders, e.g. the Gulf of Mexico oil drilling moratorium, as well as stonewalling subpoenas and requests issued by Congress. The Eric Holder Justice Department has become the epitome of corruption as part of the most dishonest and deceitful administration in American history. In a second term the arrogance of Barack Obama and his minions will become more blatant as he will not have to be concerned with re-election.
Who will be there to enforce the rule of law, a Supreme Court ruling or the Constitution? No one. Barack Obama and his fellow-travelers will be unchallenged as they run roughshod over the American people.
Many Republicans and conservatives dissatisfied with the prospect of Mitt Romney as the nominee for president are instead focused on re-taking the House and Senate. That goal, while worthy and necessary, is meaningless unless Barack Obama is defeated . The nation is not dealing with a person of character and integrity but someone of single-minded purpose and overwhelming narcissism. Judging by his actions, words and deeds during his first term, he does not intend to work with Congress,either Republican or Democrat in his second term but rather to force his radical agenda on the American people through the power he has usurped or been granted.
The governmental structure of the United States was set up by the founders in the hope that over the years only those people of high moral character and integrity would assume the reins of power. However, knowing that was not always possible, they dispersed power over three distinct and independent branches as a check on each other.
What they could not imagine is the surrender and abdication of its constitutional duty by the preeminent governmental branch, the Congress, to a chief executive devoid of any character or integrity coupled with a judiciary essentially powerless to enforce the law when the chief executive ignores them.
Conservatives, Libertarians, the Republican Party and Mitt Romney must come to grips with this moment in time and their historical role in denying Barack Obama and his minions their ultimate goal. All resources must be directed at that end-game and not merely controlling Congress and the various committee chairmanships.
Steve McCann
May 12, 2012
There has never been a more important presidential... (show quote)


Instead of reading this stuff above, which was "slightly " biased
and betting you won't check " the facts "

HealthCare.gov

Man up or Woman up and check for yourself . After all, it is your life. It is set up so you can easily go to what's important to you first , and then check the " FACTS " that were brought to you by these totally unbiased gentlemen.
quote=rozarius There has never been a more import... (show quote)


I would not necessarily call HealthCare.gov to be an unbiased source, that information is prepared and filtered through a communications group who are very careful in how information is disseminated to the public... It is interesting my brother's son-in-law was a spokes person for Health and Human services under the Obama administration and a couple of Thanksgivings back during the Haiti earthquake he was reading and what I could only characterize as censuring communications and releases from the CDC regarding the Colora and conditions in Haiti at the time, so even our scientific community communicating with another government is censured and their communications are made to fit a more politically acceptable agenda... I know that my niece's husband is no scientist, but he does have a background in PR and that was what was most important to the administration and that is why he was reading CDC communications before they were released.

It is really hard for me to take anything coming out of this administration at face value, they have changed our State Department fact sheets on foreign countries to reflect the Obama administrations policies, they have done the same with the presidential biographies, they have added paragraphs to presidents starting with Calvin Coolidge comparing their accomplishments with those of modern day Obama...

It is sad to say but our government is not necessarily a good source for information in this day in age.
quote=Lancer W/A Canon quote=rozarius There has ... (show quote)


That is the law for you to read, in all it's glory , and for you to see what's written .

Here, try this Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Reply
Sep 28, 2012 11:31:42   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Tell me why Union's Health care plans were given a waiver by the Obama administration? Sounds like Good Old Boy politics to me...

Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
rozarius wrote:
There has never been a more important presidential race than this one. I highly suggest that all you Obama-ites read the following and cast your vote very, very carefully.

From: John Porter
To: Americans everywhere
I was sitting at my keyboard halfway through my writing a letter to you about how Barack Obama was fulfilling his pledge to "Transform America" by "Changing the fundamentals of America ," so that our government would become the plantation, he the owner, and we the slaves, when this article by Steve McCann appeared in my in box. After checking it for accuracy, and finding it to be so, I put my writing on hold and here present it to you, for I could not say it better.
----------------------------------------------------------------

Obama's Second Term Transformation Plans

The 2012 election has often been described as the most pivotal since 1860.This statement is not hyperbole. If Barack Obama is re-elected the United States will never be the same, nor will it be able to re-capture its once lofty status as the most dominant nation in the history of mankind.
The overwhelming majority of Americans do not understand that Obama's first term was dedicated to putting in place executive power to enable him and the administration to fulfill the campaign promise of "transforming America " in his second term regardless of which political party controls Congress. That is why his re-election team is virtually ignoring the plight of incumbent or prospective Democratic Party office holders.
The most significant accomplishment of Obama's first term was to make Congress irrelevant. Under the myopic and blindly loyal leadership of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, the Democrats have succeeded in creating an imperial and, in a second term, a potential dictatorial presidency.
During the first two years of the Obama administration when the Democrats overwhelming controlled both Houses of Congress and the media was in an Obama worshipping stupor, a myriad of laws were passed and actions taken which transferred virtually unlimited power to the executive branch.
The birth of multi-thousand page laws was not an aberration. This tactic was adopted so the bureaucracy controlled by Obama appointees would have sole discretion in interpreting vaguely written laws and enforcing thousands of pages of regulations they and not Congress would subsequently write.
For example, in the 2,700 pages of ObamaCare there are more than 2,500 references to the Secretary of Health and Human Services. There are more than 700 instances when he or she is instructed that they "shall" do something and more than 200 times when they "may" take at their sole discretion some form of regulatory action. On 139 occasions, the law mentions that the "Secretary determines." In essence one person, appointed by and reporting to the president, will be in charge of the health care of 310 million Americans once ObamaCare is fully operational in 2014.
The same is true in the 2,319 pages of the Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Act which confers nearly unlimited power on various agencies to control by fiat the nation's financial, banking and investment sectors. The bill also creates new agencies, such as the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, not subject to any oversight by Congress. This overall process was repeated numerous times with other legislation all with the intent of granting unfettered power to the executive branch controlled by Barack Obama and his radical associates.
Additionally, the Obama administration has, through its unilaterally determined rule making and regulatory powers, created laws out of whole cloth. The Environmental Protection Agency on a near daily basis issues new regulations clearly out of their purview in order to modify and change environmental laws previously passed and to impose a radical green agenda never approved by Congress. The same is true of the Energy and Interior Departments among many others.
None of these extra-constitutional actions have been challenged by Congress. The left in America knows this usurpation of power is nearly impossible to reverse unless stopped in its early stages.
It is clearly the mindset of this administration and its appointees that Congress is merely a nuisance and can be ignored after they were able to take full advantage of the useful idiots in the Democrat controlled House and Senate in 2009-2010 and the Democrat Senate in the current Congress.
Additionally, Barack Obama knows after his re-election a Republican controlled House and Senate will not be able to enact any legislation to roll back the power previously granted to the Executive Branch or usurped by them. His veto will not be overridden as there will always be at least 145 Democratic members of the House or 34 in the Senate in agreement with or intimidated by an administration more than willing to use Chicago style political tactics.
The stalemate between the Executive and Legislative Branches will inure to the benefit of Barack Obama and his fellow leftists.
The most significant power Congress has is the control of the purse-strings as all spending must be approved by them However,once re-elected, Barack Obama, as confirmed by his willingness to do or say anything and his unscrupulous re-election tactics,would not only threaten government shutdowns but would deliberately withhold payments to those dependent on government support as a means of intimidating and forcing a Republican controlled Congress to surrender to his demands, thus neutering their ability to control the administration through spending constraints.
Further, this administration has shown contempt for the courts by ignoring various court orders, e.g. the Gulf of Mexico oil drilling moratorium, as well as stonewalling subpoenas and requests issued by Congress. The Eric Holder Justice Department has become the epitome of corruption as part of the most dishonest and deceitful administration in American history. In a second term the arrogance of Barack Obama and his minions will become more blatant as he will not have to be concerned with re-election.
Who will be there to enforce the rule of law, a Supreme Court ruling or the Constitution? No one. Barack Obama and his fellow-travelers will be unchallenged as they run roughshod over the American people.
Many Republicans and conservatives dissatisfied with the prospect of Mitt Romney as the nominee for president are instead focused on re-taking the House and Senate. That goal, while worthy and necessary, is meaningless unless Barack Obama is defeated . The nation is not dealing with a person of character and integrity but someone of single-minded purpose and overwhelming narcissism. Judging by his actions, words and deeds during his first term, he does not intend to work with Congress,either Republican or Democrat in his second term but rather to force his radical agenda on the American people through the power he has usurped or been granted.
The governmental structure of the United States was set up by the founders in the hope that over the years only those people of high moral character and integrity would assume the reins of power. However, knowing that was not always possible, they dispersed power over three distinct and independent branches as a check on each other.
What they could not imagine is the surrender and abdication of its constitutional duty by the preeminent governmental branch, the Congress, to a chief executive devoid of any character or integrity coupled with a judiciary essentially powerless to enforce the law when the chief executive ignores them.
Conservatives, Libertarians, the Republican Party and Mitt Romney must come to grips with this moment in time and their historical role in denying Barack Obama and his minions their ultimate goal. All resources must be directed at that end-game and not merely controlling Congress and the various committee chairmanships.
Steve McCann
May 12, 2012
There has never been a more important presidential... (show quote)


Instead of reading this stuff above, which was "slightly " biased
and betting you won't check " the facts "

HealthCare.gov

Man up or Woman up and check for yourself . After all, it is your life. It is set up so you can easily go to what's important to you first , and then check the " FACTS " that were brought to you by these totally unbiased gentlemen.
quote=rozarius There has never been a more import... (show quote)


I would not necessarily call HealthCare.gov to be an unbiased source, that information is prepared and filtered through a communications group who are very careful in how information is disseminated to the public... It is interesting my brother's son-in-law was a spokes person for Health and Human services under the Obama administration and a couple of Thanksgivings back during the Haiti earthquake he was reading and what I could only characterize as censuring communications and releases from the CDC regarding the Colora and conditions in Haiti at the time, so even our scientific community communicating with another government is censured and their communications are made to fit a more politically acceptable agenda... I know that my niece's husband is no scientist, but he does have a background in PR and that was what was most important to the administration and that is why he was reading CDC communications before they were released.

It is really hard for me to take anything coming out of this administration at face value, they have changed our State Department fact sheets on foreign countries to reflect the Obama administrations policies, they have done the same with the presidential biographies, they have added paragraphs to presidents starting with Calvin Coolidge comparing their accomplishments with those of modern day Obama...

It is sad to say but our government is not necessarily a good source for information in this day in age.
quote=Lancer W/A Canon quote=rozarius There has ... (show quote)


That is the law for you to read, in all it's glory , and for you to see what's written .

Here, try this Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
quote=Blurryeyed quote=Lancer W/A Canon quote=r... (show quote)

Reply
 
 
Sep 28, 2012 11:49:45   #
Lancer W/A Canon Loc: atlanta
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Tell me why Union's Health care plans were given a waiver by the Obama administration? Sounds like Good Old Boy politics to me...

Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
rozarius wrote:
There has never been a more important presidential race than this one. I highly suggest that all you Obama-ites read the following and cast your vote very, very carefully.

From: John Porter
To: Americans everywhere
I was sitting at my keyboard halfway through my writing a letter to you about how Barack Obama was fulfilling his pledge to "Transform America" by "Changing the fundamentals of America ," so that our government would become the plantation, he the owner, and we the slaves, when this article by Steve McCann appeared in my in box. After checking it for accuracy, and finding it to be so, I put my writing on hold and here present it to you, for I could not say it better.
----------------------------------------------------------------

Obama's Second Term Transformation Plans

The 2012 election has often been described as the most pivotal since 1860.This statement is not hyperbole. If Barack Obama is re-elected the United States will never be the same, nor will it be able to re-capture its once lofty status as the most dominant nation in the history of mankind.
The overwhelming majority of Americans do not understand that Obama's first term was dedicated to putting in place executive power to enable him and the administration to fulfill the campaign promise of "transforming America " in his second term regardless of which political party controls Congress. That is why his re-election team is virtually ignoring the plight of incumbent or prospective Democratic Party office holders.
The most significant accomplishment of Obama's first term was to make Congress irrelevant. Under the myopic and blindly loyal leadership of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, the Democrats have succeeded in creating an imperial and, in a second term, a potential dictatorial presidency.
During the first two years of the Obama administration when the Democrats overwhelming controlled both Houses of Congress and the media was in an Obama worshipping stupor, a myriad of laws were passed and actions taken which transferred virtually unlimited power to the executive branch.
The birth of multi-thousand page laws was not an aberration. This tactic was adopted so the bureaucracy controlled by Obama appointees would have sole discretion in interpreting vaguely written laws and enforcing thousands of pages of regulations they and not Congress would subsequently write.
For example, in the 2,700 pages of ObamaCare there are more than 2,500 references to the Secretary of Health and Human Services. There are more than 700 instances when he or she is instructed that they "shall" do something and more than 200 times when they "may" take at their sole discretion some form of regulatory action. On 139 occasions, the law mentions that the "Secretary determines." In essence one person, appointed by and reporting to the president, will be in charge of the health care of 310 million Americans once ObamaCare is fully operational in 2014.
The same is true in the 2,319 pages of the Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Act which confers nearly unlimited power on various agencies to control by fiat the nation's financial, banking and investment sectors. The bill also creates new agencies, such as the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, not subject to any oversight by Congress. This overall process was repeated numerous times with other legislation all with the intent of granting unfettered power to the executive branch controlled by Barack Obama and his radical associates.
Additionally, the Obama administration has, through its unilaterally determined rule making and regulatory powers, created laws out of whole cloth. The Environmental Protection Agency on a near daily basis issues new regulations clearly out of their purview in order to modify and change environmental laws previously passed and to impose a radical green agenda never approved by Congress. The same is true of the Energy and Interior Departments among many others.
None of these extra-constitutional actions have been challenged by Congress. The left in America knows this usurpation of power is nearly impossible to reverse unless stopped in its early stages.
It is clearly the mindset of this administration and its appointees that Congress is merely a nuisance and can be ignored after they were able to take full advantage of the useful idiots in the Democrat controlled House and Senate in 2009-2010 and the Democrat Senate in the current Congress.
Additionally, Barack Obama knows after his re-election a Republican controlled House and Senate will not be able to enact any legislation to roll back the power previously granted to the Executive Branch or usurped by them. His veto will not be overridden as there will always be at least 145 Democratic members of the House or 34 in the Senate in agreement with or intimidated by an administration more than willing to use Chicago style political tactics.
The stalemate between the Executive and Legislative Branches will inure to the benefit of Barack Obama and his fellow leftists.
The most significant power Congress has is the control of the purse-strings as all spending must be approved by them However,once re-elected, Barack Obama, as confirmed by his willingness to do or say anything and his unscrupulous re-election tactics,would not only threaten government shutdowns but would deliberately withhold payments to those dependent on government support as a means of intimidating and forcing a Republican controlled Congress to surrender to his demands, thus neutering their ability to control the administration through spending constraints.
Further, this administration has shown contempt for the courts by ignoring various court orders, e.g. the Gulf of Mexico oil drilling moratorium, as well as stonewalling subpoenas and requests issued by Congress. The Eric Holder Justice Department has become the epitome of corruption as part of the most dishonest and deceitful administration in American history. In a second term the arrogance of Barack Obama and his minions will become more blatant as he will not have to be concerned with re-election.
Who will be there to enforce the rule of law, a Supreme Court ruling or the Constitution? No one. Barack Obama and his fellow-travelers will be unchallenged as they run roughshod over the American people.
Many Republicans and conservatives dissatisfied with the prospect of Mitt Romney as the nominee for president are instead focused on re-taking the House and Senate. That goal, while worthy and necessary, is meaningless unless Barack Obama is defeated . The nation is not dealing with a person of character and integrity but someone of single-minded purpose and overwhelming narcissism. Judging by his actions, words and deeds during his first term, he does not intend to work with Congress,either Republican or Democrat in his second term but rather to force his radical agenda on the American people through the power he has usurped or been granted.
The governmental structure of the United States was set up by the founders in the hope that over the years only those people of high moral character and integrity would assume the reins of power. However, knowing that was not always possible, they dispersed power over three distinct and independent branches as a check on each other.
What they could not imagine is the surrender and abdication of its constitutional duty by the preeminent governmental branch, the Congress, to a chief executive devoid of any character or integrity coupled with a judiciary essentially powerless to enforce the law when the chief executive ignores them.
Conservatives, Libertarians, the Republican Party and Mitt Romney must come to grips with this moment in time and their historical role in denying Barack Obama and his minions their ultimate goal. All resources must be directed at that end-game and not merely controlling Congress and the various committee chairmanships.
Steve McCann
May 12, 2012
There has never been a more important presidential... (show quote)


Instead of reading this stuff above, which was "slightly " biased
and betting you won't check " the facts "

HealthCare.gov

Man up or Woman up and check for yourself . After all, it is your life. It is set up so you can easily go to what's important to you first , and then check the " FACTS " that were brought to you by these totally unbiased gentlemen.
quote=rozarius There has never been a more import... (show quote)


I would not necessarily call HealthCare.gov to be an unbiased source, that information is prepared and filtered through a communications group who are very careful in how information is disseminated to the public... It is interesting my brother's son-in-law was a spokes person for Health and Human services under the Obama administration and a couple of Thanksgivings back during the Haiti earthquake he was reading and what I could only characterize as censuring communications and releases from the CDC regarding the Colora and conditions in Haiti at the time, so even our scientific community communicating with another government is censured and their communications are made to fit a more politically acceptable agenda... I know that my niece's husband is no scientist, but he does have a background in PR and that was what was most important to the administration and that is why he was reading CDC communications before they were released.

It is really hard for me to take anything coming out of this administration at face value, they have changed our State Department fact sheets on foreign countries to reflect the Obama administrations policies, they have done the same with the presidential biographies, they have added paragraphs to presidents starting with Calvin Coolidge comparing their accomplishments with those of modern day Obama...

It is sad to say but our government is not necessarily a good source for information in this day in age.
quote=Lancer W/A Canon quote=rozarius There has ... (show quote)


That is the law for you to read, in all it's glory , and for you to see what's written .

Here, try this Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
quote=Blurryeyed quote=Lancer W/A Canon quote=r... (show quote)
Tell me why Union's Health care plans were given a... (show quote)


Your thought that unions get waivers
Unions don't have to comply with Obamacare, says Crossroads GPS
Pants on Fire! from politifact.org

Reply
Sep 28, 2012 12:01:58   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
That's funny as I didn't reference the Crossroads ad, you did & it addresses other issues as well...I merely pointed out that Unions are getting waivers & the Fact Check article said as much...Plus they also said this..."In ruling on this statement, we understand that the Obama administration would hardly admit to it if it were giving unions special treatment."..."if it smells like a rat...."

Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Tell me why Union's Health care plans were given a waiver by the Obama administration? Sounds like Good Old Boy politics to me...

Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
rozarius wrote:
There has never been a more important presidential race than this one. I highly suggest that all you Obama-ites read the following and cast your vote very, very carefully.

From: John Porter
To: Americans everywhere
I was sitting at my keyboard halfway through my writing a letter to you about how Barack Obama was fulfilling his pledge to "Transform America" by "Changing the fundamentals of America ," so that our government would become the plantation, he the owner, and we the slaves, when this article by Steve McCann appeared in my in box. After checking it for accuracy, and finding it to be so, I put my writing on hold and here present it to you, for I could not say it better.
----------------------------------------------------------------

Obama's Second Term Transformation Plans

The 2012 election has often been described as the most pivotal since 1860.This statement is not hyperbole. If Barack Obama is re-elected the United States will never be the same, nor will it be able to re-capture its once lofty status as the most dominant nation in the history of mankind.
The overwhelming majority of Americans do not understand that Obama's first term was dedicated to putting in place executive power to enable him and the administration to fulfill the campaign promise of "transforming America " in his second term regardless of which political party controls Congress. That is why his re-election team is virtually ignoring the plight of incumbent or prospective Democratic Party office holders.
The most significant accomplishment of Obama's first term was to make Congress irrelevant. Under the myopic and blindly loyal leadership of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, the Democrats have succeeded in creating an imperial and, in a second term, a potential dictatorial presidency.
During the first two years of the Obama administration when the Democrats overwhelming controlled both Houses of Congress and the media was in an Obama worshipping stupor, a myriad of laws were passed and actions taken which transferred virtually unlimited power to the executive branch.
The birth of multi-thousand page laws was not an aberration. This tactic was adopted so the bureaucracy controlled by Obama appointees would have sole discretion in interpreting vaguely written laws and enforcing thousands of pages of regulations they and not Congress would subsequently write.
For example, in the 2,700 pages of ObamaCare there are more than 2,500 references to the Secretary of Health and Human Services. There are more than 700 instances when he or she is instructed that they "shall" do something and more than 200 times when they "may" take at their sole discretion some form of regulatory action. On 139 occasions, the law mentions that the "Secretary determines." In essence one person, appointed by and reporting to the president, will be in charge of the health care of 310 million Americans once ObamaCare is fully operational in 2014.
The same is true in the 2,319 pages of the Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Act which confers nearly unlimited power on various agencies to control by fiat the nation's financial, banking and investment sectors. The bill also creates new agencies, such as the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, not subject to any oversight by Congress. This overall process was repeated numerous times with other legislation all with the intent of granting unfettered power to the executive branch controlled by Barack Obama and his radical associates.
Additionally, the Obama administration has, through its unilaterally determined rule making and regulatory powers, created laws out of whole cloth. The Environmental Protection Agency on a near daily basis issues new regulations clearly out of their purview in order to modify and change environmental laws previously passed and to impose a radical green agenda never approved by Congress. The same is true of the Energy and Interior Departments among many others.
None of these extra-constitutional actions have been challenged by Congress. The left in America knows this usurpation of power is nearly impossible to reverse unless stopped in its early stages.
It is clearly the mindset of this administration and its appointees that Congress is merely a nuisance and can be ignored after they were able to take full advantage of the useful idiots in the Democrat controlled House and Senate in 2009-2010 and the Democrat Senate in the current Congress.
Additionally, Barack Obama knows after his re-election a Republican controlled House and Senate will not be able to enact any legislation to roll back the power previously granted to the Executive Branch or usurped by them. His veto will not be overridden as there will always be at least 145 Democratic members of the House or 34 in the Senate in agreement with or intimidated by an administration more than willing to use Chicago style political tactics.
The stalemate between the Executive and Legislative Branches will inure to the benefit of Barack Obama and his fellow leftists.
The most significant power Congress has is the control of the purse-strings as all spending must be approved by them However,once re-elected, Barack Obama, as confirmed by his willingness to do or say anything and his unscrupulous re-election tactics,would not only threaten government shutdowns but would deliberately withhold payments to those dependent on government support as a means of intimidating and forcing a Republican controlled Congress to surrender to his demands, thus neutering their ability to control the administration through spending constraints.
Further, this administration has shown contempt for the courts by ignoring various court orders, e.g. the Gulf of Mexico oil drilling moratorium, as well as stonewalling subpoenas and requests issued by Congress. The Eric Holder Justice Department has become the epitome of corruption as part of the most dishonest and deceitful administration in American history. In a second term the arrogance of Barack Obama and his minions will become more blatant as he will not have to be concerned with re-election.
Who will be there to enforce the rule of law, a Supreme Court ruling or the Constitution? No one. Barack Obama and his fellow-travelers will be unchallenged as they run roughshod over the American people.
Many Republicans and conservatives dissatisfied with the prospect of Mitt Romney as the nominee for president are instead focused on re-taking the House and Senate. That goal, while worthy and necessary, is meaningless unless Barack Obama is defeated . The nation is not dealing with a person of character and integrity but someone of single-minded purpose and overwhelming narcissism. Judging by his actions, words and deeds during his first term, he does not intend to work with Congress,either Republican or Democrat in his second term but rather to force his radical agenda on the American people through the power he has usurped or been granted.
The governmental structure of the United States was set up by the founders in the hope that over the years only those people of high moral character and integrity would assume the reins of power. However, knowing that was not always possible, they dispersed power over three distinct and independent branches as a check on each other.
What they could not imagine is the surrender and abdication of its constitutional duty by the preeminent governmental branch, the Congress, to a chief executive devoid of any character or integrity coupled with a judiciary essentially powerless to enforce the law when the chief executive ignores them.
Conservatives, Libertarians, the Republican Party and Mitt Romney must come to grips with this moment in time and their historical role in denying Barack Obama and his minions their ultimate goal. All resources must be directed at that end-game and not merely controlling Congress and the various committee chairmanships.
Steve McCann
May 12, 2012
There has never been a more important presidential... (show quote)


Instead of reading this stuff above, which was "slightly " biased
and betting you won't check " the facts "

HealthCare.gov

Man up or Woman up and check for yourself . After all, it is your life. It is set up so you can easily go to what's important to you first , and then check the " FACTS " that were brought to you by these totally unbiased gentlemen.
quote=rozarius There has never been a more import... (show quote)


I would not necessarily call HealthCare.gov to be an unbiased source, that information is prepared and filtered through a communications group who are very careful in how information is disseminated to the public... It is interesting my brother's son-in-law was a spokes person for Health and Human services under the Obama administration and a couple of Thanksgivings back during the Haiti earthquake he was reading and what I could only characterize as censuring communications and releases from the CDC regarding the Colora and conditions in Haiti at the time, so even our scientific community communicating with another government is censured and their communications are made to fit a more politically acceptable agenda... I know that my niece's husband is no scientist, but he does have a background in PR and that was what was most important to the administration and that is why he was reading CDC communications before they were released.

It is really hard for me to take anything coming out of this administration at face value, they have changed our State Department fact sheets on foreign countries to reflect the Obama administrations policies, they have done the same with the presidential biographies, they have added paragraphs to presidents starting with Calvin Coolidge comparing their accomplishments with those of modern day Obama...

It is sad to say but our government is not necessarily a good source for information in this day in age.
quote=Lancer W/A Canon quote=rozarius There has ... (show quote)


That is the law for you to read, in all it's glory , and for you to see what's written .

Here, try this Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
quote=Blurryeyed quote=Lancer W/A Canon quote=r... (show quote)
Tell me why Union's Health care plans were given a... (show quote)


Your thought that unions get waivers
Unions don't have to comply with Obamacare, says Crossroads GPS
Pants on Fire! from politifact.org
quote=Screamin Scott Tell me why Union's Health c... (show quote)

Reply
Sep 28, 2012 13:36:37   #
Hunter Lou 1947 Loc: Minnesota
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Tell me why Union's Health care plans were given a waiver by the Obama administration? Sounds like Good Old Boy politics to me...

Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
rozarius wrote:
There has never been a more important presidential race than this one. I highly suggest that all you Obama-ites read the following and cast your vote very, very carefully.

From: John Porter
To: Americans everywhere
I was sitting at my keyboard halfway through my writing a letter to you about how Barack Obama was fulfilling his pledge to "Transform America" by "Changing the fundamentals of America ," so that our government would become the plantation, he the owner, and we the slaves, when this article by Steve McCann appeared in my in box. After checking it for accuracy, and finding it to be so, I put my writing on hold and here present it to you, for I could not say it better.
----------------------------------------------------------------

Obama's Second Term Transformation Plans

The 2012 election has often been described as the most pivotal since 1860.This statement is not hyperbole. If Barack Obama is re-elected the United States will never be the same, nor will it be able to re-capture its once lofty status as the most dominant nation in the history of mankind.
The overwhelming majority of Americans do not understand that Obama's first term was dedicated to putting in place executive power to enable him and the administration to fulfill the campaign promise of "transforming America " in his second term regardless of which political party controls Congress. That is why his re-election team is virtually ignoring the plight of incumbent or prospective Democratic Party office holders.
The most significant accomplishment of Obama's first term was to make Congress irrelevant. Under the myopic and blindly loyal leadership of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, the Democrats have succeeded in creating an imperial and, in a second term, a potential dictatorial presidency.
During the first two years of the Obama administration when the Democrats overwhelming controlled both Houses of Congress and the media was in an Obama worshipping stupor, a myriad of laws were passed and actions taken which transferred virtually unlimited power to the executive branch.
The birth of multi-thousand page laws was not an aberration. This tactic was adopted so the bureaucracy controlled by Obama appointees would have sole discretion in interpreting vaguely written laws and enforcing thousands of pages of regulations they and not Congress would subsequently write.
For example, in the 2,700 pages of ObamaCare there are more than 2,500 references to the Secretary of Health and Human Services. There are more than 700 instances when he or she is instructed that they "shall" do something and more than 200 times when they "may" take at their sole discretion some form of regulatory action. On 139 occasions, the law mentions that the "Secretary determines." In essence one person, appointed by and reporting to the president, will be in charge of the health care of 310 million Americans once ObamaCare is fully operational in 2014.
The same is true in the 2,319 pages of the Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Act which confers nearly unlimited power on various agencies to control by fiat the nation's financial, banking and investment sectors. The bill also creates new agencies, such as the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, not subject to any oversight by Congress. This overall process was repeated numerous times with other legislation all with the intent of granting unfettered power to the executive branch controlled by Barack Obama and his radical associates.
Additionally, the Obama administration has, through its unilaterally determined rule making and regulatory powers, created laws out of whole cloth. The Environmental Protection Agency on a near daily basis issues new regulations clearly out of their purview in order to modify and change environmental laws previously passed and to impose a radical green agenda never approved by Congress. The same is true of the Energy and Interior Departments among many others.
None of these extra-constitutional actions have been challenged by Congress. The left in America knows this usurpation of power is nearly impossible to reverse unless stopped in its early stages.
It is clearly the mindset of this administration and its appointees that Congress is merely a nuisance and can be ignored after they were able to take full advantage of the useful idiots in the Democrat controlled House and Senate in 2009-2010 and the Democrat Senate in the current Congress.
Additionally, Barack Obama knows after his re-election a Republican controlled House and Senate will not be able to enact any legislation to roll back the power previously granted to the Executive Branch or usurped by them. His veto will not be overridden as there will always be at least 145 Democratic members of the House or 34 in the Senate in agreement with or intimidated by an administration more than willing to use Chicago style political tactics.
The stalemate between the Executive and Legislative Branches will inure to the benefit of Barack Obama and his fellow leftists.
The most significant power Congress has is the control of the purse-strings as all spending must be approved by them However,once re-elected, Barack Obama, as confirmed by his willingness to do or say anything and his unscrupulous re-election tactics,would not only threaten government shutdowns but would deliberately withhold payments to those dependent on government support as a means of intimidating and forcing a Republican controlled Congress to surrender to his demands, thus neutering their ability to control the administration through spending constraints.
Further, this administration has shown contempt for the courts by ignoring various court orders, e.g. the Gulf of Mexico oil drilling moratorium, as well as stonewalling subpoenas and requests issued by Congress. The Eric Holder Justice Department has become the epitome of corruption as part of the most dishonest and deceitful administration in American history. In a second term the arrogance of Barack Obama and his minions will become more blatant as he will not have to be concerned with re-election.
Who will be there to enforce the rule of law, a Supreme Court ruling or the Constitution? No one. Barack Obama and his fellow-travelers will be unchallenged as they run roughshod over the American people.
Many Republicans and conservatives dissatisfied with the prospect of Mitt Romney as the nominee for president are instead focused on re-taking the House and Senate. That goal, while worthy and necessary, is meaningless unless Barack Obama is defeated . The nation is not dealing with a person of character and integrity but someone of single-minded purpose and overwhelming narcissism. Judging by his actions, words and deeds during his first term, he does not intend to work with Congress,either Republican or Democrat in his second term but rather to force his radical agenda on the American people through the power he has usurped or been granted.
The governmental structure of the United States was set up by the founders in the hope that over the years only those people of high moral character and integrity would assume the reins of power. However, knowing that was not always possible, they dispersed power over three distinct and independent branches as a check on each other.
What they could not imagine is the surrender and abdication of its constitutional duty by the preeminent governmental branch, the Congress, to a chief executive devoid of any character or integrity coupled with a judiciary essentially powerless to enforce the law when the chief executive ignores them.
Conservatives, Libertarians, the Republican Party and Mitt Romney must come to grips with this moment in time and their historical role in denying Barack Obama and his minions their ultimate goal. All resources must be directed at that end-game and not merely controlling Congress and the various committee chairmanships.
Steve McCann
May 12, 2012
There has never been a more important presidential... (show quote)


Instead of reading this stuff above, which was "slightly " biased
and betting you won't check " the facts "

HealthCare.gov

Man up or Woman up and check for yourself . After all, it is your life. It is set up so you can easily go to what's important to you first , and then check the " FACTS " that were brought to you by these totally unbiased gentlemen.
quote=rozarius There has never been a more import... (show quote)


I would not necessarily call HealthCare.gov to be an unbiased source, that information is prepared and filtered through a communications group who are very careful in how information is disseminated to the public... It is interesting my brother's son-in-law was a spokes person for Health and Human services under the Obama administration and a couple of Thanksgivings back during the Haiti earthquake he was reading and what I could only characterize as censuring communications and releases from the CDC regarding the Colora and conditions in Haiti at the time, so even our scientific community communicating with another government is censured and their communications are made to fit a more politically acceptable agenda... I know that my niece's husband is no scientist, but he does have a background in PR and that was what was most important to the administration and that is why he was reading CDC communications before they were released.

It is really hard for me to take anything coming out of this administration at face value, they have changed our State Department fact sheets on foreign countries to reflect the Obama administrations policies, they have done the same with the presidential biographies, they have added paragraphs to presidents starting with Calvin Coolidge comparing their accomplishments with those of modern day Obama...

It is sad to say but our government is not necessarily a good source for information in this day in age.
quote=Lancer W/A Canon quote=rozarius There has ... (show quote)


That is the law for you to read, in all it's glory , and for you to see what's written .

Here, try this Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
quote=Blurryeyed quote=Lancer W/A Canon quote=r... (show quote)
Tell me why Union's Health care plans were given a... (show quote)


They haven't been favored. Your just anti-union. Your parents probably benefitted from a union pension but they didn't will you their benefits and now you are disgruntled.

Reply
Sep 28, 2012 13:42:03   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Boy are you a crock full of shit...Neither parent was a Union member & I got nothing in any Will either. I was a Union member for 8 years & the Union didn't do shit for me except take my money...See. I can stoop to your level when I want too. Grow a life !

Hunter Lou 1947 wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Tell me why Union's Health care plans were given a waiver by the Obama administration? Sounds like Good Old Boy politics to me...

Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
rozarius wrote:
There has never been a more important presidential race than this one. I highly suggest that all you Obama-ites read the following and cast your vote very, very carefully.

From: John Porter
To: Americans everywhere
I was sitting at my keyboard halfway through my writing a letter to you about how Barack Obama was fulfilling his pledge to "Transform America" by "Changing the fundamentals of America ," so that our government would become the plantation, he the owner, and we the slaves, when this article by Steve McCann appeared in my in box. After checking it for accuracy, and finding it to be so, I put my writing on hold and here present it to you, for I could not say it better.
----------------------------------------------------------------

Obama's Second Term Transformation Plans

The 2012 election has often been described as the most pivotal since 1860.This statement is not hyperbole. If Barack Obama is re-elected the United States will never be the same, nor will it be able to re-capture its once lofty status as the most dominant nation in the history of mankind.
The overwhelming majority of Americans do not understand that Obama's first term was dedicated to putting in place executive power to enable him and the administration to fulfill the campaign promise of "transforming America " in his second term regardless of which political party controls Congress. That is why his re-election team is virtually ignoring the plight of incumbent or prospective Democratic Party office holders.
The most significant accomplishment of Obama's first term was to make Congress irrelevant. Under the myopic and blindly loyal leadership of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, the Democrats have succeeded in creating an imperial and, in a second term, a potential dictatorial presidency.
During the first two years of the Obama administration when the Democrats overwhelming controlled both Houses of Congress and the media was in an Obama worshipping stupor, a myriad of laws were passed and actions taken which transferred virtually unlimited power to the executive branch.
The birth of multi-thousand page laws was not an aberration. This tactic was adopted so the bureaucracy controlled by Obama appointees would have sole discretion in interpreting vaguely written laws and enforcing thousands of pages of regulations they and not Congress would subsequently write.
For example, in the 2,700 pages of ObamaCare there are more than 2,500 references to the Secretary of Health and Human Services. There are more than 700 instances when he or she is instructed that they "shall" do something and more than 200 times when they "may" take at their sole discretion some form of regulatory action. On 139 occasions, the law mentions that the "Secretary determines." In essence one person, appointed by and reporting to the president, will be in charge of the health care of 310 million Americans once ObamaCare is fully operational in 2014.
The same is true in the 2,319 pages of the Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Act which confers nearly unlimited power on various agencies to control by fiat the nation's financial, banking and investment sectors. The bill also creates new agencies, such as the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, not subject to any oversight by Congress. This overall process was repeated numerous times with other legislation all with the intent of granting unfettered power to the executive branch controlled by Barack Obama and his radical associates.
Additionally, the Obama administration has, through its unilaterally determined rule making and regulatory powers, created laws out of whole cloth. The Environmental Protection Agency on a near daily basis issues new regulations clearly out of their purview in order to modify and change environmental laws previously passed and to impose a radical green agenda never approved by Congress. The same is true of the Energy and Interior Departments among many others.
None of these extra-constitutional actions have been challenged by Congress. The left in America knows this usurpation of power is nearly impossible to reverse unless stopped in its early stages.
It is clearly the mindset of this administration and its appointees that Congress is merely a nuisance and can be ignored after they were able to take full advantage of the useful idiots in the Democrat controlled House and Senate in 2009-2010 and the Democrat Senate in the current Congress.
Additionally, Barack Obama knows after his re-election a Republican controlled House and Senate will not be able to enact any legislation to roll back the power previously granted to the Executive Branch or usurped by them. His veto will not be overridden as there will always be at least 145 Democratic members of the House or 34 in the Senate in agreement with or intimidated by an administration more than willing to use Chicago style political tactics.
The stalemate between the Executive and Legislative Branches will inure to the benefit of Barack Obama and his fellow leftists.
The most significant power Congress has is the control of the purse-strings as all spending must be approved by them However,once re-elected, Barack Obama, as confirmed by his willingness to do or say anything and his unscrupulous re-election tactics,would not only threaten government shutdowns but would deliberately withhold payments to those dependent on government support as a means of intimidating and forcing a Republican controlled Congress to surrender to his demands, thus neutering their ability to control the administration through spending constraints.
Further, this administration has shown contempt for the courts by ignoring various court orders, e.g. the Gulf of Mexico oil drilling moratorium, as well as stonewalling subpoenas and requests issued by Congress. The Eric Holder Justice Department has become the epitome of corruption as part of the most dishonest and deceitful administration in American history. In a second term the arrogance of Barack Obama and his minions will become more blatant as he will not have to be concerned with re-election.
Who will be there to enforce the rule of law, a Supreme Court ruling or the Constitution? No one. Barack Obama and his fellow-travelers will be unchallenged as they run roughshod over the American people.
Many Republicans and conservatives dissatisfied with the prospect of Mitt Romney as the nominee for president are instead focused on re-taking the House and Senate. That goal, while worthy and necessary, is meaningless unless Barack Obama is defeated . The nation is not dealing with a person of character and integrity but someone of single-minded purpose and overwhelming narcissism. Judging by his actions, words and deeds during his first term, he does not intend to work with Congress,either Republican or Democrat in his second term but rather to force his radical agenda on the American people through the power he has usurped or been granted.
The governmental structure of the United States was set up by the founders in the hope that over the years only those people of high moral character and integrity would assume the reins of power. However, knowing that was not always possible, they dispersed power over three distinct and independent branches as a check on each other.
What they could not imagine is the surrender and abdication of its constitutional duty by the preeminent governmental branch, the Congress, to a chief executive devoid of any character or integrity coupled with a judiciary essentially powerless to enforce the law when the chief executive ignores them.
Conservatives, Libertarians, the Republican Party and Mitt Romney must come to grips with this moment in time and their historical role in denying Barack Obama and his minions their ultimate goal. All resources must be directed at that end-game and not merely controlling Congress and the various committee chairmanships.
Steve McCann
May 12, 2012
There has never been a more important presidential... (show quote)


Instead of reading this stuff above, which was "slightly " biased
and betting you won't check " the facts "

HealthCare.gov

Man up or Woman up and check for yourself . After all, it is your life. It is set up so you can easily go to what's important to you first , and then check the " FACTS " that were brought to you by these totally unbiased gentlemen.
quote=rozarius There has never been a more import... (show quote)


I would not necessarily call HealthCare.gov to be an unbiased source, that information is prepared and filtered through a communications group who are very careful in how information is disseminated to the public... It is interesting my brother's son-in-law was a spokes person for Health and Human services under the Obama administration and a couple of Thanksgivings back during the Haiti earthquake he was reading and what I could only characterize as censuring communications and releases from the CDC regarding the Colora and conditions in Haiti at the time, so even our scientific community communicating with another government is censured and their communications are made to fit a more politically acceptable agenda... I know that my niece's husband is no scientist, but he does have a background in PR and that was what was most important to the administration and that is why he was reading CDC communications before they were released.

It is really hard for me to take anything coming out of this administration at face value, they have changed our State Department fact sheets on foreign countries to reflect the Obama administrations policies, they have done the same with the presidential biographies, they have added paragraphs to presidents starting with Calvin Coolidge comparing their accomplishments with those of modern day Obama...

It is sad to say but our government is not necessarily a good source for information in this day in age.
quote=Lancer W/A Canon quote=rozarius There has ... (show quote)


That is the law for you to read, in all it's glory , and for you to see what's written .

Here, try this Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
quote=Blurryeyed quote=Lancer W/A Canon quote=r... (show quote)
Tell me why Union's Health care plans were given a... (show quote)


They haven't been favored. Your just anti-union. Your parents probably benefitted from a union pension but they didn't will you their benefits and now you are disgruntled.
quote=Screamin Scott Tell me why Union's Health c... (show quote)

Reply
 
 
Sep 28, 2012 14:31:16   #
Hunter Lou 1947 Loc: Minnesota
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Boy are you a crock full of shit...Neither parent was a Union member & I got nothing in any Will either. I was a Union member for 8 years & the Union didn't do shit for me except take my money...See. I can stoop to your level when I want too. Grow a life !

Hunter Lou 1947 wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Tell me why Union's Health care plans were given a waiver by the Obama administration? Sounds like Good Old Boy politics to me...

Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
rozarius wrote:
There has never been a more important presidential race than this one. I highly suggest that all you Obama-ites read the following and cast your vote very, very carefully.

From: John Porter
To: Americans everywhere
I was sitting at my keyboard halfway through my writing a letter to you about how Barack Obama was fulfilling his pledge to "Transform America" by "Changing the fundamentals of America ," so that our government would become the plantation, he the owner, and we the slaves, when this article by Steve McCann appeared in my in box. After checking it for accuracy, and finding it to be so, I put my writing on hold and here present it to you, for I could not say it better.
----------------------------------------------------------------

Obama's Second Term Transformation Plans

The 2012 election has often been described as the most pivotal since 1860.This statement is not hyperbole. If Barack Obama is re-elected the United States will never be the same, nor will it be able to re-capture its once lofty status as the most dominant nation in the history of mankind.
The overwhelming majority of Americans do not understand that Obama's first term was dedicated to putting in place executive power to enable him and the administration to fulfill the campaign promise of "transforming America " in his second term regardless of which political party controls Congress. That is why his re-election team is virtually ignoring the plight of incumbent or prospective Democratic Party office holders.
The most significant accomplishment of Obama's first term was to make Congress irrelevant. Under the myopic and blindly loyal leadership of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, the Democrats have succeeded in creating an imperial and, in a second term, a potential dictatorial presidency.
During the first two years of the Obama administration when the Democrats overwhelming controlled both Houses of Congress and the media was in an Obama worshipping stupor, a myriad of laws were passed and actions taken which transferred virtually unlimited power to the executive branch.
The birth of multi-thousand page laws was not an aberration. This tactic was adopted so the bureaucracy controlled by Obama appointees would have sole discretion in interpreting vaguely written laws and enforcing thousands of pages of regulations they and not Congress would subsequently write.
For example, in the 2,700 pages of ObamaCare there are more than 2,500 references to the Secretary of Health and Human Services. There are more than 700 instances when he or she is instructed that they "shall" do something and more than 200 times when they "may" take at their sole discretion some form of regulatory action. On 139 occasions, the law mentions that the "Secretary determines." In essence one person, appointed by and reporting to the president, will be in charge of the health care of 310 million Americans once ObamaCare is fully operational in 2014.
The same is true in the 2,319 pages of the Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Act which confers nearly unlimited power on various agencies to control by fiat the nation's financial, banking and investment sectors. The bill also creates new agencies, such as the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, not subject to any oversight by Congress. This overall process was repeated numerous times with other legislation all with the intent of granting unfettered power to the executive branch controlled by Barack Obama and his radical associates.
Additionally, the Obama administration has, through its unilaterally determined rule making and regulatory powers, created laws out of whole cloth. The Environmental Protection Agency on a near daily basis issues new regulations clearly out of their purview in order to modify and change environmental laws previously passed and to impose a radical green agenda never approved by Congress. The same is true of the Energy and Interior Departments among many others.
None of these extra-constitutional actions have been challenged by Congress. The left in America knows this usurpation of power is nearly impossible to reverse unless stopped in its early stages.
It is clearly the mindset of this administration and its appointees that Congress is merely a nuisance and can be ignored after they were able to take full advantage of the useful idiots in the Democrat controlled House and Senate in 2009-2010 and the Democrat Senate in the current Congress.
Additionally, Barack Obama knows after his re-election a Republican controlled House and Senate will not be able to enact any legislation to roll back the power previously granted to the Executive Branch or usurped by them. His veto will not be overridden as there will always be at least 145 Democratic members of the House or 34 in the Senate in agreement with or intimidated by an administration more than willing to use Chicago style political tactics.
The stalemate between the Executive and Legislative Branches will inure to the benefit of Barack Obama and his fellow leftists.
The most significant power Congress has is the control of the purse-strings as all spending must be approved by them However,once re-elected, Barack Obama, as confirmed by his willingness to do or say anything and his unscrupulous re-election tactics,would not only threaten government shutdowns but would deliberately withhold payments to those dependent on government support as a means of intimidating and forcing a Republican controlled Congress to surrender to his demands, thus neutering their ability to control the administration through spending constraints.
Further, this administration has shown contempt for the courts by ignoring various court orders, e.g. the Gulf of Mexico oil drilling moratorium, as well as stonewalling subpoenas and requests issued by Congress. The Eric Holder Justice Department has become the epitome of corruption as part of the most dishonest and deceitful administration in American history. In a second term the arrogance of Barack Obama and his minions will become more blatant as he will not have to be concerned with re-election.
Who will be there to enforce the rule of law, a Supreme Court ruling or the Constitution? No one. Barack Obama and his fellow-travelers will be unchallenged as they run roughshod over the American people.
Many Republicans and conservatives dissatisfied with the prospect of Mitt Romney as the nominee for president are instead focused on re-taking the House and Senate. That goal, while worthy and necessary, is meaningless unless Barack Obama is defeated . The nation is not dealing with a person of character and integrity but someone of single-minded purpose and overwhelming narcissism. Judging by his actions, words and deeds during his first term, he does not intend to work with Congress,either Republican or Democrat in his second term but rather to force his radical agenda on the American people through the power he has usurped or been granted.
The governmental structure of the United States was set up by the founders in the hope that over the years only those people of high moral character and integrity would assume the reins of power. However, knowing that was not always possible, they dispersed power over three distinct and independent branches as a check on each other.
What they could not imagine is the surrender and abdication of its constitutional duty by the preeminent governmental branch, the Congress, to a chief executive devoid of any character or integrity coupled with a judiciary essentially powerless to enforce the law when the chief executive ignores them.
Conservatives, Libertarians, the Republican Party and Mitt Romney must come to grips with this moment in time and their historical role in denying Barack Obama and his minions their ultimate goal. All resources must be directed at that end-game and not merely controlling Congress and the various committee chairmanships.
Steve McCann
May 12, 2012
There has never been a more important presidential... (show quote)


Instead of reading this stuff above, which was "slightly " biased
and betting you won't check " the facts "

HealthCare.gov

Man up or Woman up and check for yourself . After all, it is your life. It is set up so you can easily go to what's important to you first , and then check the " FACTS " that were brought to you by these totally unbiased gentlemen.
quote=rozarius There has never been a more import... (show quote)


I would not necessarily call HealthCare.gov to be an unbiased source, that information is prepared and filtered through a communications group who are very careful in how information is disseminated to the public... It is interesting my brother's son-in-law was a spokes person for Health and Human services under the Obama administration and a couple of Thanksgivings back during the Haiti earthquake he was reading and what I could only characterize as censuring communications and releases from the CDC regarding the Colora and conditions in Haiti at the time, so even our scientific community communicating with another government is censured and their communications are made to fit a more politically acceptable agenda... I know that my niece's husband is no scientist, but he does have a background in PR and that was what was most important to the administration and that is why he was reading CDC communications before they were released.

It is really hard for me to take anything coming out of this administration at face value, they have changed our State Department fact sheets on foreign countries to reflect the Obama administrations policies, they have done the same with the presidential biographies, they have added paragraphs to presidents starting with Calvin Coolidge comparing their accomplishments with those of modern day Obama...

It is sad to say but our government is not necessarily a good source for information in this day in age.
quote=Lancer W/A Canon quote=rozarius There has ... (show quote)


That is the law for you to read, in all it's glory , and for you to see what's written .

Here, try this Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
quote=Blurryeyed quote=Lancer W/A Canon quote=r... (show quote)
Tell me why Union's Health care plans were given a... (show quote)


They haven't been favored. Your just anti-union. Your parents probably benefitted from a union pension but they didn't will you their benefits and now you are disgruntled.
quote=Screamin Scott Tell me why Union's Health c... (show quote)
Boy are you a crock full of shit...Neither parent... (show quote)


Reading some more of your ranting and it shows me you have the foggiest idea about being union.

Reply
Sep 28, 2012 14:31:19   #
Hunter Lou 1947 Loc: Minnesota
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Boy are you a crock full of shit...Neither parent was a Union member & I got nothing in any Will either. I was a Union member for 8 years & the Union didn't do shit for me except take my money...See. I can stoop to your level when I want too. Grow a life !

Hunter Lou 1947 wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Tell me why Union's Health care plans were given a waiver by the Obama administration? Sounds like Good Old Boy politics to me...

Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
rozarius wrote:
There has never been a more important presidential race than this one. I highly suggest that all you Obama-ites read the following and cast your vote very, very carefully.

From: John Porter
To: Americans everywhere
I was sitting at my keyboard halfway through my writing a letter to you about how Barack Obama was fulfilling his pledge to "Transform America" by "Changing the fundamentals of America ," so that our government would become the plantation, he the owner, and we the slaves, when this article by Steve McCann appeared in my in box. After checking it for accuracy, and finding it to be so, I put my writing on hold and here present it to you, for I could not say it better.
----------------------------------------------------------------

Obama's Second Term Transformation Plans

The 2012 election has often been described as the most pivotal since 1860.This statement is not hyperbole. If Barack Obama is re-elected the United States will never be the same, nor will it be able to re-capture its once lofty status as the most dominant nation in the history of mankind.
The overwhelming majority of Americans do not understand that Obama's first term was dedicated to putting in place executive power to enable him and the administration to fulfill the campaign promise of "transforming America " in his second term regardless of which political party controls Congress. That is why his re-election team is virtually ignoring the plight of incumbent or prospective Democratic Party office holders.
The most significant accomplishment of Obama's first term was to make Congress irrelevant. Under the myopic and blindly loyal leadership of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, the Democrats have succeeded in creating an imperial and, in a second term, a potential dictatorial presidency.
During the first two years of the Obama administration when the Democrats overwhelming controlled both Houses of Congress and the media was in an Obama worshipping stupor, a myriad of laws were passed and actions taken which transferred virtually unlimited power to the executive branch.
The birth of multi-thousand page laws was not an aberration. This tactic was adopted so the bureaucracy controlled by Obama appointees would have sole discretion in interpreting vaguely written laws and enforcing thousands of pages of regulations they and not Congress would subsequently write.
For example, in the 2,700 pages of ObamaCare there are more than 2,500 references to the Secretary of Health and Human Services. There are more than 700 instances when he or she is instructed that they "shall" do something and more than 200 times when they "may" take at their sole discretion some form of regulatory action. On 139 occasions, the law mentions that the "Secretary determines." In essence one person, appointed by and reporting to the president, will be in charge of the health care of 310 million Americans once ObamaCare is fully operational in 2014.
The same is true in the 2,319 pages of the Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Act which confers nearly unlimited power on various agencies to control by fiat the nation's financial, banking and investment sectors. The bill also creates new agencies, such as the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, not subject to any oversight by Congress. This overall process was repeated numerous times with other legislation all with the intent of granting unfettered power to the executive branch controlled by Barack Obama and his radical associates.
Additionally, the Obama administration has, through its unilaterally determined rule making and regulatory powers, created laws out of whole cloth. The Environmental Protection Agency on a near daily basis issues new regulations clearly out of their purview in order to modify and change environmental laws previously passed and to impose a radical green agenda never approved by Congress. The same is true of the Energy and Interior Departments among many others.
None of these extra-constitutional actions have been challenged by Congress. The left in America knows this usurpation of power is nearly impossible to reverse unless stopped in its early stages.
It is clearly the mindset of this administration and its appointees that Congress is merely a nuisance and can be ignored after they were able to take full advantage of the useful idiots in the Democrat controlled House and Senate in 2009-2010 and the Democrat Senate in the current Congress.
Additionally, Barack Obama knows after his re-election a Republican controlled House and Senate will not be able to enact any legislation to roll back the power previously granted to the Executive Branch or usurped by them. His veto will not be overridden as there will always be at least 145 Democratic members of the House or 34 in the Senate in agreement with or intimidated by an administration more than willing to use Chicago style political tactics.
The stalemate between the Executive and Legislative Branches will inure to the benefit of Barack Obama and his fellow leftists.
The most significant power Congress has is the control of the purse-strings as all spending must be approved by them However,once re-elected, Barack Obama, as confirmed by his willingness to do or say anything and his unscrupulous re-election tactics,would not only threaten government shutdowns but would deliberately withhold payments to those dependent on government support as a means of intimidating and forcing a Republican controlled Congress to surrender to his demands, thus neutering their ability to control the administration through spending constraints.
Further, this administration has shown contempt for the courts by ignoring various court orders, e.g. the Gulf of Mexico oil drilling moratorium, as well as stonewalling subpoenas and requests issued by Congress. The Eric Holder Justice Department has become the epitome of corruption as part of the most dishonest and deceitful administration in American history. In a second term the arrogance of Barack Obama and his minions will become more blatant as he will not have to be concerned with re-election.
Who will be there to enforce the rule of law, a Supreme Court ruling or the Constitution? No one. Barack Obama and his fellow-travelers will be unchallenged as they run roughshod over the American people.
Many Republicans and conservatives dissatisfied with the prospect of Mitt Romney as the nominee for president are instead focused on re-taking the House and Senate. That goal, while worthy and necessary, is meaningless unless Barack Obama is defeated . The nation is not dealing with a person of character and integrity but someone of single-minded purpose and overwhelming narcissism. Judging by his actions, words and deeds during his first term, he does not intend to work with Congress,either Republican or Democrat in his second term but rather to force his radical agenda on the American people through the power he has usurped or been granted.
The governmental structure of the United States was set up by the founders in the hope that over the years only those people of high moral character and integrity would assume the reins of power. However, knowing that was not always possible, they dispersed power over three distinct and independent branches as a check on each other.
What they could not imagine is the surrender and abdication of its constitutional duty by the preeminent governmental branch, the Congress, to a chief executive devoid of any character or integrity coupled with a judiciary essentially powerless to enforce the law when the chief executive ignores them.
Conservatives, Libertarians, the Republican Party and Mitt Romney must come to grips with this moment in time and their historical role in denying Barack Obama and his minions their ultimate goal. All resources must be directed at that end-game and not merely controlling Congress and the various committee chairmanships.
Steve McCann
May 12, 2012
There has never been a more important presidential... (show quote)


Instead of reading this stuff above, which was "slightly " biased
and betting you won't check " the facts "

HealthCare.gov

Man up or Woman up and check for yourself . After all, it is your life. It is set up so you can easily go to what's important to you first , and then check the " FACTS " that were brought to you by these totally unbiased gentlemen.
quote=rozarius There has never been a more import... (show quote)


I would not necessarily call HealthCare.gov to be an unbiased source, that information is prepared and filtered through a communications group who are very careful in how information is disseminated to the public... It is interesting my brother's son-in-law was a spokes person for Health and Human services under the Obama administration and a couple of Thanksgivings back during the Haiti earthquake he was reading and what I could only characterize as censuring communications and releases from the CDC regarding the Colora and conditions in Haiti at the time, so even our scientific community communicating with another government is censured and their communications are made to fit a more politically acceptable agenda... I know that my niece's husband is no scientist, but he does have a background in PR and that was what was most important to the administration and that is why he was reading CDC communications before they were released.

It is really hard for me to take anything coming out of this administration at face value, they have changed our State Department fact sheets on foreign countries to reflect the Obama administrations policies, they have done the same with the presidential biographies, they have added paragraphs to presidents starting with Calvin Coolidge comparing their accomplishments with those of modern day Obama...

It is sad to say but our government is not necessarily a good source for information in this day in age.
quote=Lancer W/A Canon quote=rozarius There has ... (show quote)


That is the law for you to read, in all it's glory , and for you to see what's written .

Here, try this Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
quote=Blurryeyed quote=Lancer W/A Canon quote=r... (show quote)
Tell me why Union's Health care plans were given a... (show quote)


They haven't been favored. Your just anti-union. Your parents probably benefitted from a union pension but they didn't will you their benefits and now you are disgruntled.
quote=Screamin Scott Tell me why Union's Health c... (show quote)
Boy are you a crock full of shit...Neither parent... (show quote)


Reading some more of your ranting and it shows me you have the foggiest idea about being union.

Reply
Sep 28, 2012 14:36:31   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
I got one for you Lou....If Unions are so great to work for, why are members forced to join? Doesn't sound very Democratic to me...What about freedom of choice? Then you have Unions trying to have everyone's vote on membership open & known to all ...What's that all about. Is this something we will be instituting in our countries General elections next? So they can intimidate those who vote against being Unionized?

Hunter Lou 1947 wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Boy are you a crock full of shit...Neither parent was a Union member & I got nothing in any Will either. I was a Union member for 8 years & the Union didn't do shit for me except take my money...See. I can stoop to your level when I want too. Grow a life !

Hunter Lou 1947 wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Tell me why Union's Health care plans were given a waiver by the Obama administration? Sounds like Good Old Boy politics to me...

Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
rozarius wrote:
There has never been a more important presidential race than this one. I highly suggest that all you Obama-ites read the following and cast your vote very, very carefully.

From: John Porter
To: Americans everywhere
I was sitting at my keyboard halfway through my writing a letter to you about how Barack Obama was fulfilling his pledge to "Transform America" by "Changing the fundamentals of America ," so that our government would become the plantation, he the owner, and we the slaves, when this article by Steve McCann appeared in my in box. After checking it for accuracy, and finding it to be so, I put my writing on hold and here present it to you, for I could not say it better.
----------------------------------------------------------------

Obama's Second Term Transformation Plans

The 2012 election has often been described as the most pivotal since 1860.This statement is not hyperbole. If Barack Obama is re-elected the United States will never be the same, nor will it be able to re-capture its once lofty status as the most dominant nation in the history of mankind.
The overwhelming majority of Americans do not understand that Obama's first term was dedicated to putting in place executive power to enable him and the administration to fulfill the campaign promise of "transforming America " in his second term regardless of which political party controls Congress. That is why his re-election team is virtually ignoring the plight of incumbent or prospective Democratic Party office holders.
The most significant accomplishment of Obama's first term was to make Congress irrelevant. Under the myopic and blindly loyal leadership of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, the Democrats have succeeded in creating an imperial and, in a second term, a potential dictatorial presidency.
During the first two years of the Obama administration when the Democrats overwhelming controlled both Houses of Congress and the media was in an Obama worshipping stupor, a myriad of laws were passed and actions taken which transferred virtually unlimited power to the executive branch.
The birth of multi-thousand page laws was not an aberration. This tactic was adopted so the bureaucracy controlled by Obama appointees would have sole discretion in interpreting vaguely written laws and enforcing thousands of pages of regulations they and not Congress would subsequently write.
For example, in the 2,700 pages of ObamaCare there are more than 2,500 references to the Secretary of Health and Human Services. There are more than 700 instances when he or she is instructed that they "shall" do something and more than 200 times when they "may" take at their sole discretion some form of regulatory action. On 139 occasions, the law mentions that the "Secretary determines." In essence one person, appointed by and reporting to the president, will be in charge of the health care of 310 million Americans once ObamaCare is fully operational in 2014.
The same is true in the 2,319 pages of the Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Act which confers nearly unlimited power on various agencies to control by fiat the nation's financial, banking and investment sectors. The bill also creates new agencies, such as the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, not subject to any oversight by Congress. This overall process was repeated numerous times with other legislation all with the intent of granting unfettered power to the executive branch controlled by Barack Obama and his radical associates.
Additionally, the Obama administration has, through its unilaterally determined rule making and regulatory powers, created laws out of whole cloth. The Environmental Protection Agency on a near daily basis issues new regulations clearly out of their purview in order to modify and change environmental laws previously passed and to impose a radical green agenda never approved by Congress. The same is true of the Energy and Interior Departments among many others.
None of these extra-constitutional actions have been challenged by Congress. The left in America knows this usurpation of power is nearly impossible to reverse unless stopped in its early stages.
It is clearly the mindset of this administration and its appointees that Congress is merely a nuisance and can be ignored after they were able to take full advantage of the useful idiots in the Democrat controlled House and Senate in 2009-2010 and the Democrat Senate in the current Congress.
Additionally, Barack Obama knows after his re-election a Republican controlled House and Senate will not be able to enact any legislation to roll back the power previously granted to the Executive Branch or usurped by them. His veto will not be overridden as there will always be at least 145 Democratic members of the House or 34 in the Senate in agreement with or intimidated by an administration more than willing to use Chicago style political tactics.
The stalemate between the Executive and Legislative Branches will inure to the benefit of Barack Obama and his fellow leftists.
The most significant power Congress has is the control of the purse-strings as all spending must be approved by them However,once re-elected, Barack Obama, as confirmed by his willingness to do or say anything and his unscrupulous re-election tactics,would not only threaten government shutdowns but would deliberately withhold payments to those dependent on government support as a means of intimidating and forcing a Republican controlled Congress to surrender to his demands, thus neutering their ability to control the administration through spending constraints.
Further, this administration has shown contempt for the courts by ignoring various court orders, e.g. the Gulf of Mexico oil drilling moratorium, as well as stonewalling subpoenas and requests issued by Congress. The Eric Holder Justice Department has become the epitome of corruption as part of the most dishonest and deceitful administration in American history. In a second term the arrogance of Barack Obama and his minions will become more blatant as he will not have to be concerned with re-election.
Who will be there to enforce the rule of law, a Supreme Court ruling or the Constitution? No one. Barack Obama and his fellow-travelers will be unchallenged as they run roughshod over the American people.
Many Republicans and conservatives dissatisfied with the prospect of Mitt Romney as the nominee for president are instead focused on re-taking the House and Senate. That goal, while worthy and necessary, is meaningless unless Barack Obama is defeated . The nation is not dealing with a person of character and integrity but someone of single-minded purpose and overwhelming narcissism. Judging by his actions, words and deeds during his first term, he does not intend to work with Congress,either Republican or Democrat in his second term but rather to force his radical agenda on the American people through the power he has usurped or been granted.
The governmental structure of the United States was set up by the founders in the hope that over the years only those people of high moral character and integrity would assume the reins of power. However, knowing that was not always possible, they dispersed power over three distinct and independent branches as a check on each other.
What they could not imagine is the surrender and abdication of its constitutional duty by the preeminent governmental branch, the Congress, to a chief executive devoid of any character or integrity coupled with a judiciary essentially powerless to enforce the law when the chief executive ignores them.
Conservatives, Libertarians, the Republican Party and Mitt Romney must come to grips with this moment in time and their historical role in denying Barack Obama and his minions their ultimate goal. All resources must be directed at that end-game and not merely controlling Congress and the various committee chairmanships.
Steve McCann
May 12, 2012
There has never been a more important presidential... (show quote)


Instead of reading this stuff above, which was "slightly " biased
and betting you won't check " the facts "

HealthCare.gov

Man up or Woman up and check for yourself . After all, it is your life. It is set up so you can easily go to what's important to you first , and then check the " FACTS " that were brought to you by these totally unbiased gentlemen.
quote=rozarius There has never been a more import... (show quote)


I would not necessarily call HealthCare.gov to be an unbiased source, that information is prepared and filtered through a communications group who are very careful in how information is disseminated to the public... It is interesting my brother's son-in-law was a spokes person for Health and Human services under the Obama administration and a couple of Thanksgivings back during the Haiti earthquake he was reading and what I could only characterize as censuring communications and releases from the CDC regarding the Colora and conditions in Haiti at the time, so even our scientific community communicating with another government is censured and their communications are made to fit a more politically acceptable agenda... I know that my niece's husband is no scientist, but he does have a background in PR and that was what was most important to the administration and that is why he was reading CDC communications before they were released.

It is really hard for me to take anything coming out of this administration at face value, they have changed our State Department fact sheets on foreign countries to reflect the Obama administrations policies, they have done the same with the presidential biographies, they have added paragraphs to presidents starting with Calvin Coolidge comparing their accomplishments with those of modern day Obama...

It is sad to say but our government is not necessarily a good source for information in this day in age.
quote=Lancer W/A Canon quote=rozarius There has ... (show quote)


That is the law for you to read, in all it's glory , and for you to see what's written .

Here, try this Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
quote=Blurryeyed quote=Lancer W/A Canon quote=r... (show quote)
Tell me why Union's Health care plans were given a... (show quote)


They haven't been favored. Your just anti-union. Your parents probably benefitted from a union pension but they didn't will you their benefits and now you are disgruntled.
quote=Screamin Scott Tell me why Union's Health c... (show quote)
Boy are you a crock full of shit...Neither parent... (show quote)


Reading some more of your ranting and it shows me you have the foggiest idea about being union.
quote=Screamin Scott Boy are you a crock full of... (show quote)

Reply
Sep 28, 2012 15:27:53   #
Hunter Lou 1947 Loc: Minnesota
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
I got one for you Lou....If Unions are so great to work for, why are members forced to join? Doesn't sound very Democratic to me...What about freedom of choice? Then you have Unions trying to have everyone's vote on membership open & known to all ...What's that all about. Is this something we will be instituting in our countries General elections next? So they can intimidate those who vote against being Unionized?

Hunter Lou 1947 wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Boy are you a crock full of shit...Neither parent was a Union member & I got nothing in any Will either. I was a Union member for 8 years & the Union didn't do shit for me except take my money...See. I can stoop to your level when I want too. Grow a life !

Hunter Lou 1947 wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Tell me why Union's Health care plans were given a waiver by the Obama administration? Sounds like Good Old Boy politics to me...

Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
rozarius wrote:
There has never been a more important presidential race than this one. I highly suggest that all you Obama-ites read the following and cast your vote very, very carefully.

From: John Porter
To: Americans everywhere
I was sitting at my keyboard halfway through my writing a letter to you about how Barack Obama was fulfilling his pledge to "Transform America" by "Changing the fundamentals of America ," so that our government would become the plantation, he the owner, and we the slaves, when this article by Steve McCann appeared in my in box. After checking it for accuracy, and finding it to be so, I put my writing on hold and here present it to you, for I could not say it better.
----------------------------------------------------------------

Obama's Second Term Transformation Plans

The 2012 election has often been described as the most pivotal since 1860.This statement is not hyperbole. If Barack Obama is re-elected the United States will never be the same, nor will it be able to re-capture its once lofty status as the most dominant nation in the history of mankind.
The overwhelming majority of Americans do not understand that Obama's first term was dedicated to putting in place executive power to enable him and the administration to fulfill the campaign promise of "transforming America " in his second term regardless of which political party controls Congress. That is why his re-election team is virtually ignoring the plight of incumbent or prospective Democratic Party office holders.
The most significant accomplishment of Obama's first term was to make Congress irrelevant. Under the myopic and blindly loyal leadership of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, the Democrats have succeeded in creating an imperial and, in a second term, a potential dictatorial presidency.
During the first two years of the Obama administration when the Democrats overwhelming controlled both Houses of Congress and the media was in an Obama worshipping stupor, a myriad of laws were passed and actions taken which transferred virtually unlimited power to the executive branch.
The birth of multi-thousand page laws was not an aberration. This tactic was adopted so the bureaucracy controlled by Obama appointees would have sole discretion in interpreting vaguely written laws and enforcing thousands of pages of regulations they and not Congress would subsequently write.
For example, in the 2,700 pages of ObamaCare there are more than 2,500 references to the Secretary of Health and Human Services. There are more than 700 instances when he or she is instructed that they "shall" do something and more than 200 times when they "may" take at their sole discretion some form of regulatory action. On 139 occasions, the law mentions that the "Secretary determines." In essence one person, appointed by and reporting to the president, will be in charge of the health care of 310 million Americans once ObamaCare is fully operational in 2014.
The same is true in the 2,319 pages of the Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Act which confers nearly unlimited power on various agencies to control by fiat the nation's financial, banking and investment sectors. The bill also creates new agencies, such as the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, not subject to any oversight by Congress. This overall process was repeated numerous times with other legislation all with the intent of granting unfettered power to the executive branch controlled by Barack Obama and his radical associates.
Additionally, the Obama administration has, through its unilaterally determined rule making and regulatory powers, created laws out of whole cloth. The Environmental Protection Agency on a near daily basis issues new regulations clearly out of their purview in order to modify and change environmental laws previously passed and to impose a radical green agenda never approved by Congress. The same is true of the Energy and Interior Departments among many others.
None of these extra-constitutional actions have been challenged by Congress. The left in America knows this usurpation of power is nearly impossible to reverse unless stopped in its early stages.
It is clearly the mindset of this administration and its appointees that Congress is merely a nuisance and can be ignored after they were able to take full advantage of the useful idiots in the Democrat controlled House and Senate in 2009-2010 and the Democrat Senate in the current Congress.
Additionally, Barack Obama knows after his re-election a Republican controlled House and Senate will not be able to enact any legislation to roll back the power previously granted to the Executive Branch or usurped by them. His veto will not be overridden as there will always be at least 145 Democratic members of the House or 34 in the Senate in agreement with or intimidated by an administration more than willing to use Chicago style political tactics.
The stalemate between the Executive and Legislative Branches will inure to the benefit of Barack Obama and his fellow leftists.
The most significant power Congress has is the control of the purse-strings as all spending must be approved by them However,once re-elected, Barack Obama, as confirmed by his willingness to do or say anything and his unscrupulous re-election tactics,would not only threaten government shutdowns but would deliberately withhold payments to those dependent on government support as a means of intimidating and forcing a Republican controlled Congress to surrender to his demands, thus neutering their ability to control the administration through spending constraints.
Further, this administration has shown contempt for the courts by ignoring various court orders, e.g. the Gulf of Mexico oil drilling moratorium, as well as stonewalling subpoenas and requests issued by Congress. The Eric Holder Justice Department has become the epitome of corruption as part of the most dishonest and deceitful administration in American history. In a second term the arrogance of Barack Obama and his minions will become more blatant as he will not have to be concerned with re-election.
Who will be there to enforce the rule of law, a Supreme Court ruling or the Constitution? No one. Barack Obama and his fellow-travelers will be unchallenged as they run roughshod over the American people.
Many Republicans and conservatives dissatisfied with the prospect of Mitt Romney as the nominee for president are instead focused on re-taking the House and Senate. That goal, while worthy and necessary, is meaningless unless Barack Obama is defeated . The nation is not dealing with a person of character and integrity but someone of single-minded purpose and overwhelming narcissism. Judging by his actions, words and deeds during his first term, he does not intend to work with Congress,either Republican or Democrat in his second term but rather to force his radical agenda on the American people through the power he has usurped or been granted.
The governmental structure of the United States was set up by the founders in the hope that over the years only those people of high moral character and integrity would assume the reins of power. However, knowing that was not always possible, they dispersed power over three distinct and independent branches as a check on each other.
What they could not imagine is the surrender and abdication of its constitutional duty by the preeminent governmental branch, the Congress, to a chief executive devoid of any character or integrity coupled with a judiciary essentially powerless to enforce the law when the chief executive ignores them.
Conservatives, Libertarians, the Republican Party and Mitt Romney must come to grips with this moment in time and their historical role in denying Barack Obama and his minions their ultimate goal. All resources must be directed at that end-game and not merely controlling Congress and the various committee chairmanships.
Steve McCann
May 12, 2012
There has never been a more important presidential... (show quote)


Instead of reading this stuff above, which was "slightly " biased
and betting you won't check " the facts "

HealthCare.gov

Man up or Woman up and check for yourself . After all, it is your life. It is set up so you can easily go to what's important to you first , and then check the " FACTS " that were brought to you by these totally unbiased gentlemen.
quote=rozarius There has never been a more import... (show quote)


I would not necessarily call HealthCare.gov to be an unbiased source, that information is prepared and filtered through a communications group who are very careful in how information is disseminated to the public... It is interesting my brother's son-in-law was a spokes person for Health and Human services under the Obama administration and a couple of Thanksgivings back during the Haiti earthquake he was reading and what I could only characterize as censuring communications and releases from the CDC regarding the Colora and conditions in Haiti at the time, so even our scientific community communicating with another government is censured and their communications are made to fit a more politically acceptable agenda... I know that my niece's husband is no scientist, but he does have a background in PR and that was what was most important to the administration and that is why he was reading CDC communications before they were released.

It is really hard for me to take anything coming out of this administration at face value, they have changed our State Department fact sheets on foreign countries to reflect the Obama administrations policies, they have done the same with the presidential biographies, they have added paragraphs to presidents starting with Calvin Coolidge comparing their accomplishments with those of modern day Obama...

It is sad to say but our government is not necessarily a good source for information in this day in age.
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That is the law for you to read, in all it's glory , and for you to see what's written .

Here, try this Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
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Tell me why Union's Health care plans were given a... (show quote)


They haven't been favored. Your just anti-union. Your parents probably benefitted from a union pension but they didn't will you their benefits and now you are disgruntled.
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Reading some more of your ranting and it shows me you have the foggiest idea about being union.
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Well, you asked the question, now my answer: It's law in certain states you have to be full pledged union members. although you can become a dues objector and pay a partial dues rate based on what it costs the union to only represent you for being union for the union to do it's normal duties of policing the contract, etc.
Some states are commonly referred to as right to work states, meaning you don't have to belong to the union but the union still must represent you. Sort of being a free loader, like what Romney referred people to in his remarks. The union has to negoitate for you, go to arbitration for you, file grievances for you. It's really free loading in a sense. Not fair to the other employees at the shop who belong to the union and pay dues for union representation. It really does cause problems at negoiations because managements know how many people would actually strike when an agreement can't be agreed upon. Those not in the union must report for work and those on strike would be on the picket line.
Another question you brought up is that the union would be able to tell who voted for a union. That's a bull crap lie. In an election called for by the NLRB what that issue is all about is that the unions want a simple majority. Meaning that if we would get a simple majority of signers who want a union at a shop on a organizing drive then the company and those who signed for the union who created the majority would go into binding arbitration to try and reach an agreement between both sides. The way it is now in the non transportation side. If the members in a particular shop ask a union to do an organizing drive and this process gets at least 30% of the employees to sign a petition to form a union. That union must then petition the NLRB to hold a hearing and if an election is set then the union still must win that election by a simple majority. During this time frame up to the election the company can call captive audience meetings (mandatory meetings) and outside company co nsultants can be called in to try and get the employees not to vote for the union. In this process it becomes very difficult for unions to achieve a victory. Because in most part managements intimadate their employees in these meetings and outside of these meetings in the shop.
So it's not a good setting right off the bat for either side.
What the unions today want to have happen is that a more peacefull situation is developed where both sides mutually agree that they can bring about an atmosphere where it's a win win for both sides. I'll tell you today more unions are adapted to bringing about better productivity and building up a company then most people give them credit for. Yes, some employers need to be forced into a really hard nosed type situation but it need not be that way. Employees who have the sense that their employer cares about them and lets them form a union without a fight find out that it is for the better for both sides and better in the long run.

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