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Sep 10, 2020 15:31:15   #
Roe Cole
 
About a month ago I ordered a Canon EOS R camera. Of course it was purchased on line. The photo store ad was written like it was a new camera But it didn’t specify either new or used. It arrived in what appeared to be a new box and included the accessories I expected. BTW, my old camera was a Canon 60D. Listed below is my concern.

Being anxious to try it out, I pulled an SD card directly out of my old camera And placed it in the EOS R. I took about 100 photos then pulled the SD card to upload the images onto my computer. I was shocked to notice the photo count on the card was Showing over 5,000+ photos had been taken. The first thing I thought was that I ended up with a USED camera.

Here comes the question: The shutter count from the EOS R STARTED AT over 5,000 but this count was very close to the shutter count from my old 60D camera. COULD THE NEW EOS R PICK UP THE SHUTTER COUNT FROM THE 60D? Is this possible?

Thanks for any clarity you can provide.

Could my using an SD card from my old camera overwrite the shutter count of my new camera???

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Sep 10, 2020 15:34:07   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
I ALWAYS use a new SD card in a new/new to me camera. Swapping an SD card between cameras without re-formatting it doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

Stan

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Sep 10, 2020 15:37:38   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
I have no idea about Canon cameras. But many Nikon cameras offer a choice of starting file numbers from the highest photo number on the memory card. (That capability can be used to get the file names in synch after having to send a camera in for repair and it comes back after getting a factory reset.) Check your manual for file naming options. This is also a good reason for formatting a card before using it.

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Sep 10, 2020 15:40:12   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
The card wouldn’t show any photos from that camera from before you put the card in. If you only took 100 photos and the card is showing 5000 photos then it must have 4900 taken with the old camera.

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Sep 10, 2020 15:43:56   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Canon EOS cameras will continue to count from another camera, especially if you don't format the card before using in a new / different EOS body. As you'll see on page 367 of your EOS R manual, the default is continuous.

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Sep 10, 2020 15:50:33   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Canon EOS cameras will continue to count from another camera, especially if you don't format the card before using in a new / different EOS body. As you'll see on page 367 of your EOS R manual, the default is continuous.




I was digging through the 5D manual knowing I saw that somewhere.

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Sep 10, 2020 15:53:09   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Roe, if you're going to continue to use both EOS bodies, continue in the EOS R manual to page 370 and add a custom name to files created by the EOS R. This advanced feature of the EOS R avoids the potential duplication of names between different cameras for the same image file / sequence number.

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Sep 10, 2020 16:08:27   #
Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV
 
I don't know your camera but you should be able to take a new SD card, put it in the camera and take just a few photos and I would think if it is a new camera the count should be just over the 100 you previously took. I don't know if the old SD card would update any count in the camera to prevent this from working.

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Sep 10, 2020 16:18:51   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
Roe Cole wrote:
About a month ago I ordered a Canon EOS R camera. Of course it was purchased on line. The photo store ad was written like it was a new camera But it didn’t specify either new or used. It arrived in what appeared to be a new box and included the accessories I expected. BTW, my old camera was a Canon 60D. Listed below is my concern.

Being anxious to try it out, I pulled an SD card directly out of my old camera And placed it in the EOS R. I took about 100 photos then pulled the SD card to upload the images onto my computer. I was shocked to notice the photo count on the card was Showing over 5,000+ photos had been taken. The first thing I thought was that I ended up with a USED camera.

Here comes the question: The shutter count from the EOS R STARTED AT over 5,000 but this count was very close to the shutter count from my old 60D camera. COULD THE NEW EOS R PICK UP THE SHUTTER COUNT FROM THE 60D? Is this possible?

Thanks for any clarity you can provide.

Could my using an SD card from my old camera overwrite the shutter count of my new camera???
About a month ago I ordered a Canon EOS R camera. ... (show quote)


Just to be sure, did you change the EOS R file naming scheme to match the 60D? That's where Canon has listed known issues like this. Theoretically, and I use that term loosely, if each camera had it's own unique file name/numbering, switching the card between the two shouldn't cause that issue. But like Paul said, the EOS ecosystem has a bad habit of picking up the number from the .cfg file (I think that's the one).

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Sep 10, 2020 16:26:22   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
johngault007 wrote:
Just to be sure, did you change the EOS R file naming scheme to match the 60D? That's where Canon has listed known issues like this. Theoretically, and I use that term loosely, if each camera had it's own unique file name/numbering, switching the card between the two shouldn't cause that issue. But like Paul said, the EOS ecosystem has a bad habit of picking up the number from the .cfg file (I think that's the one).


I believe Occam provides guidance that 'DSC' is the standard default name for digital cameras being a Digital Still Camera .... And hence, a new camera to the original concern of the OP.

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Sep 10, 2020 16:34:49   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I believe Occam provides guidance that 'DSC' is the standard default name for digital cameras being a Digital Still Camera .... And hence, a new camera to the original concern of the OP.

Thanks Paul!
Didn't know that, good stuff. My T7i and 5D use factory generated unique file names and I guess I just never felt a need to change it in camera. I thought DSC actually went away after a lot of file name size limitations were deprecated. Or at least I assumed that is why DSC existed

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Sep 10, 2020 16:35:12   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Roe Cole wrote:
About a month ago I ordered a Canon EOS R camera. Of course it was purchased on line. The photo store ad was written like it was a new camera But it didn’t specify either new or used. It arrived in what appeared to be a new box and included the accessories I expected. BTW, my old camera was a Canon 60D. Listed below is my concern.

Being anxious to try it out, I pulled an SD card directly out of my old camera And placed it in the EOS R. I took about 100 photos then pulled the SD card to upload the images onto my computer. I was shocked to notice the photo count on the card was Showing over 5,000+ photos had been taken. The first thing I thought was that I ended up with a USED camera.

Here comes the question: The shutter count from the EOS R STARTED AT over 5,000 but this count was very close to the shutter count from my old 60D camera. COULD THE NEW EOS R PICK UP THE SHUTTER COUNT FROM THE 60D? Is this possible?

Thanks for any clarity you can provide.

Could my using an SD card from my old camera overwrite the shutter count of my new camera???
About a month ago I ordered a Canon EOS R camera. ... (show quote)


Did you format the card in the R or put it in and just start shooting? If no format the card image count could be from the 60D.

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Sep 10, 2020 16:45:37   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Roe Cole wrote:
About a month ago I ordered a Canon EOS R camera. Of course it was purchased on line. The photo store ad was written like it was a new camera But it didn’t specify either new or used. It arrived in what appeared to be a new box and included the accessories I expected. BTW, my old camera was a Canon 60D. Listed below is my concern.

Being anxious to try it out, I pulled an SD card directly out of my old camera And placed it in the EOS R. I took about 100 photos then pulled the SD card to upload the images onto my computer. I was shocked to notice the photo count on the card was Showing over 5,000+ photos had been taken. The first thing I thought was that I ended up with a USED camera.

Here comes the question: The shutter count from the EOS R STARTED AT over 5,000 but this count was very close to the shutter count from my old 60D camera. COULD THE NEW EOS R PICK UP THE SHUTTER COUNT FROM THE 60D? Is this possible?

Thanks for any clarity you can provide.

Could my using an SD card from my old camera overwrite the shutter count of my new camera???
About a month ago I ordered a Canon EOS R camera. ... (show quote)


If you are just basing your shutter count on the SD card image number than you can not rely on it being accurate count. Understand that the number of the count on your SD card is not the same as the number of actuations of your shutter. They are two different things.

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Sep 10, 2020 17:11:15   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
Roe Cole wrote:
About a month ago I ordered a Canon EOS R camera. Of course it was purchased on line. The photo store ad was written like it was a new camera But it didn’t specify either new or used. It arrived in what appeared to be a new box and included the accessories I expected. BTW, my old camera was a Canon 60D. Listed below is my concern.

Being anxious to try it out, I pulled an SD card directly out of my old camera And placed it in the EOS R. I took about 100 photos then pulled the SD card to upload the images onto my computer. I was shocked to notice the photo count on the card was Showing over 5,000+ photos had been taken. The first thing I thought was that I ended up with a USED camera.

Here comes the question: The shutter count from the EOS R STARTED AT over 5,000 but this count was very close to the shutter count from my old 60D camera. COULD THE NEW EOS R PICK UP THE SHUTTER COUNT FROM THE 60D? Is this possible?

Thanks for any clarity you can provide.

Could my using an SD card from my old camera overwrite the shutter count of my new camera???
About a month ago I ordered a Canon EOS R camera. ... (show quote)


Who did you order the camera from?

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Sep 11, 2020 07:40:35   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Format the card in your R, shoot a few shots, then check the number. At that point it should reflect what your R's shutter count actually is.

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