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Sep 1, 2020 21:38:15   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
Goal for the Sony fanboys. This is actually a big deal, since AP is a, perhaps the, major pillar of photojournalism.

https://www.ap.org/press-releases/2020/ap-to-equip-all-visual-journalists-globally-with-sony-imaging-products

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Sep 1, 2020 21:39:54   #
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Awwwrrrrk !!!

Pritt-tee burrr-dee !

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Sep 1, 2020 21:53:02   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
That would seem to be a corporate to corporate deal. Not the photographers themselves.

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Sep 1, 2020 22:10:31   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
robertjerl wrote:
That would seem to be a corporate to corporate deal. Not the photographers themselves.


They would not have done it if they thought it could or would compromise their work.

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Sep 1, 2020 22:24:27   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
So the AP photographers want (need) cameras that are equally good at both video and photos? ("3,000 photos and 200 videos each day"). They want silent cameras? ("our photojournalists can work in environments without interrupting the scene around them...") Less clear in the article is connectivity. Do Sony cameras connect to cell network devices better? ("Sony offers 5G through its Xperia™ product line..")

And how long has it taken Canon to figure out that a video capable, silent and connected camera might be necessary?

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Sep 1, 2020 22:43:50   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
bsprague wrote:
So the AP photographers want (need) cameras that are equally good at both video and photos? ("3,000 photos and 200 videos each day"). They want silent cameras? ("our photojournalists can work in environments without interrupting the scene around them...") Less clear in the article is connectivity. Do Sony cameras connect to cell network devices better? ("Sony offers 5G through its Xperia™ product line..")

And how long has it taken Canon to figure out that a video capable, silent and connected camera might be necessary?
So the AP photographers want (need) cameras that a... (show quote)


Generally speaking, video and still photojournalism are separate, because you can't do both at the same time. AP and other agencies will have both a stills person and a video person to cover a major event. But more and more, stills people are being asked to do some video and sometimes vice-versa, and that certainly is the case when doing feature work. Silent shutter is indeed a big advantage in venues where noise is a distraction.

What is clear is that mirrorless cameras are now agile enough to capture news events. This is truly the beginning of the end of the DSLR, because this was the one area in which they had an edge.

After an event, I used to see the stills people sitting atop their ladders or on the grass with their computers, sending files as soon as the event ended. If they could send them directly from their cameras through a linked device, it would be a major advantage over having to carry a computer with them in the field.

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Sep 1, 2020 22:55:43   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
kymarto wrote:
Generally speaking, video and still photojournalism are separate, because you can't do both at the same time. AP and other agencies will have both a stills person and a video person to cover an event. But more and more, stills people are being asked to do some video and sometimes vice-versa. Silent shutter is indeed a big advantage in venues where noise is a distraction.

What is clear is that mirrorless cameras are now agile enough to capture news events. This is truly the beginning of the end of the DSLR, because this was the one area in which they had an edge.
Generally speaking, video and still photojournalis... (show quote)


"Generally speaking, video and still photojournalism are separate, because you can't do both at the same time."

That's what's wrong with me! After giving up a Nikon film system and a move forced the loss of my darkroom, I gave up. Then ten years ago the intrigue returned but I wanted to do both at the same time. I ended up buying a couple cameras from a hair dryer and microwave company. I think they make vacuum cleaners too.

No when I go to Yellowstone I get to alternate between the buttons on the same, single camera. Sometimes I even make stills out of frames in the 4K video files.

I never saw the end of the DSLR because, for me, it came with the SLR!

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Sep 1, 2020 23:52:43   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
kymarto wrote:
...What is clear is that mirrorless cameras are now agile enough to capture news events. This is truly the beginning of the end of the DSLR, because this was the one area in which they had an edge...


Maybe more than one area. I could be mistaken, but I’m guessing that most pro sports are still shot with the likes of a Nikon D5/D6 or a Canon 1DX1/2

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Sep 2, 2020 04:39:34   #
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TriX wrote:
Maybe more than one area. I could be mistaken, but I’m guessing that most pro sports are still shot with the likes of a Nikon D5/D6 or a Canon 1DX1/2


I don’t know if the a9ii has a version of what Olympus calls Pro Capture, but it’s an ability that cannot coexist with SLR optical viewing. It’s not exclusive to Olympus as it’s also available from Panasonic. If it’s NOT in the a9ii then the SLRs will remain the sports cameras for a while. Otherwise the asteroid has already hit the dinosaurs.

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Sep 2, 2020 04:59:20   #
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bsprague wrote:
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After giving up a Nikon film system and a move forced the loss of my darkroom, I gave up. Then ten years ago the intrigue returned but I wanted to do both at the same time. I ended up buying a couple cameras from a hair dryer and microwave company. I think they make vacuum cleaners too.
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I never saw the end of the DSLR because, for me, it came with the SLR!

Was a similar story for me. Always had a darkroom at work, until one day I finally didn’t ... we went digital.

Unfortunately I did not personally move directly to live view. Being habituated to SLRs I first went to digital SLRs ... that was pretty miserable. Then I got a Nex-7 and all was right with my world again. I still have the Nex-7 (somewhere).

So I did briefly experience the end of the SLR before switching to LV. The end was not really sudden. I still have two SLR outfits around, tho their lenses are most often used on LV bodies.

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Sep 2, 2020 06:37:25   #
TerryVS
 
robertjerl wrote:
That would seem to be a corporate to corporate deal. Not the photographers themselves.


Yep, got to remember this was a likely bid deal. Sony owns a large chunk of broadcast TV but the only reason there's a Sony in the cage in the rear of my company SUV is they outbid the others. All that and it still has Canon glass!

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Sep 2, 2020 11:33:07   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
It COULD be they are replacing all AP's equipment for free as a add campaign. I said COULD so don't go crazy with what I put down.

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Sep 2, 2020 12:02:40   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
It is difficult to argue against the use of mirrorless cameras. Not only their technologies are superior to those in a dSLR but also they have come a long way with videos and improved AF.
Many professionals are now using mirrorless cameras. They are small and convenient and they are very capable.

I do not dare to say this is the end of dSLR cameras. For action and wildlife dSLR bodies they have exceptional AF systems. If that change drastically in the future I cannot predict it.
In the very near future most cameras will be mirrorless.

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Sep 2, 2020 13:34:11   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
camerapapi wrote:
It is difficult to argue against the use of mirrorless cameras. Not only their technologies are superior to those in a dSLR but also they have come a long way with videos and improved AF.
Many professionals are now using mirrorless cameras. They are small and convenient and they are very capable.

I do not dare to say this is the end of dSLR cameras. For action and wildlife dSLR bodies they have exceptional AF systems. If that change drastically in the future I cannot predict it.
In the very near future most cameras will be mirrorless.
It is difficult to argue against the use of mirror... (show quote)

I see you haven't tried the latest Sony full frame mirrorless cameras; the fastest AF available in any camera!

bwa

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Sep 2, 2020 15:45:07   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
TerryVS wrote:
Yep, got to remember this was a likely bid deal. Sony owns a large chunk of broadcast TV but the only reason there's a Sony in the cage in the rear of my company SUV is they outbid the others. All that and it still has Canon glass!


Fujinon as much or more than Canon. And these days Panasonic is near as strong as Sony in camcorders, with Canon hardly on the map.

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