boberic
Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
As a result of potential problems with mail in v****g. thyere may be a very long wait to swear in a new president by Jan. 20. If a president is not swarned in by thyat date, Pelosi will be sworn in as president. It may only take 2 or3 states to not have e*******l college v**e reach thyerequired number. Anothyer reason for the dems to want mail in v****g
boberic wrote:
As a result of potential problems with mail in v****g. thyere may be a very long wait to swear in a new president by Jan. 20. If a president is not swarned in by thyat date, Pelosi will be sworn in as president. It may only take 2 or3 states to not have e*******l college v**e reach thyerequired number. Anothyer reason for the dems to want mail in v****g
And what if the results of Pelosi's e******n are delayed?
I understand that the Presidents term ends on a date certain. Does a senator's term end on a date certain?
I have a decent understanding of the Constitution...but I am nowhere near the expert and scholar as so many of my colleagues on here!
LoL
Is Pelosi still the speaker come January if the e******n results are not established? Could we wind up without a President until the results are final?
Yes, a Senators term ends on January 1, however only California v**es for her so they don't face the same issues as the President.
I get it is only one state...but I imagine widespread mail in is available in CA. The repubs shut that down in TX. So quite a few million mail b****ts come in ....what if it takes a couple of months to process them? No Prez, no VP, no speaker...could we wind up with someone like Carson or Devos as Prez for a bit?
This just a what if game...the b****ts will likely be processed within a month or so...but it is the government in charge of counting them ...so what if seems reasonable.
The e******n will be decided on e******n night because Biden will have such an overpowering lead that the b****ts not yet counted won't make a difference. Then the FBI will have to come with a straight jacket to remove Trump from the White House.
National Park wrote:
The e******n will be decided on e******n night because Biden will have such an overpowering lead that the b****ts not yet counted won't make a difference. Then the FBI will have to come with a straight jacket to remove Trump from the White House.
Not until January 21st. if there is any white house left.
Kraken wrote:
Not until January 21st. if there is any white house left.
Eric trump just used the 5th to avoid questions in a case unrelated to the State of NY tax case.
Anyone of the trumpettes who continue to deny that the trumps have done anything wrong are in for a rude surprise in the coming weeks and months!
In the end, Barron may be the only Trump not indicted.
DennyT
Loc: Central Missouri woods
Frank T wrote:
Yes, a Senators term ends on January 1, however only California v**es for her so they don't face the same issues as the President.
But the new congress by law must open on the 3rd if Jan.
And congress is not determined by e*****rs.
In addition I also am not a constitutional expert but it would not. be the speaker of the house according to the 20th amendment
“”” If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified
“””
DennyT
Loc: Central Missouri woods
The only thing 100% sure is that trumps term as the 45th president is over on 20 Jan.
Different scenarios
1. He wins . 50/50 chance at this time
2. He loses and accepts it.
3. He loses and contest the e******n via the courts. Maybe but not likely . Even if he does his term is over on 20. Jan. Constitution says so. Congress picks an interim president until issue is resolved . Doubt court would support any claim. Roberts will not let the court become involved via bush v. Gore. More likely in this scenario he loses court case at lower lever and accepts it crying he got c***ted fir rest of his life. Something he is probably happy to do . He may even like that outcome better than winning and actually having to serve .
Before anyone gets all crazy, there are specific time limits to be followed in the e******n of a U.S. President.
By law, the E*****rs of the states must meet on the first Monday after the second Wednesday of December in their respective states to v**e for the President. On J****** 6th (date certain), Congress shall meet to count and certify the results of the E*******l College.
According to the 20th Amendment, terms of all representatives and senators end at noon on January 3rd, all representatives and approximately one-third of all senators. Those e******ns are conducted and certified by the states, not the U.S. government, thus it is entirely possible that a state may not have certified congressional e******ns by January 3rd, causing those states not to have representation on that date. This has happened on small scales in the past.
It will be up to the states' e******n commissions, secretaries of state, etc., to insure those schedules are kept. And those costs will be borne by the states.
Frank T wrote:
In the end, Barron may be the only Trump not indicted.
Make that Barron and Tiffany.
Marla Maples was wise to keep Tiffany isolated from the trump family circus
But with her recent law degree, I wouldn't rule out that trump doesn't try to lure her into the crime family activities!
The laws requiring e*****rs to v**e for a specific candidate are just that, state laws. The constitution on the other hand allows, indeed expects, them to pick the most qualified candidate without limitations. It is highly likely that if no candidate has 270 e*******l v**es the Supreme Court will release the e*****rs (probably by finding the state laws unconstitutional) and allow them to v**e for anyone. The whole idea of the e*******l college was intended to prevent just this situation. That there would always be an executive to run the government, be the commander in chief, execute foreign policy, etc. Problem with this situation is that it could be Biden, it could be Trump, Pelosi, or anyone else.
DennyT
Loc: Central Missouri woods
The Supreme Court has no part of the e******n process.
The constitution is clear that if no candidate gets 270 the the house decides the president and the senate the Vice President.
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