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Aug 17, 2020 08:55:58   #
Bison Bud
 
Just wondering how many out there believe that the current Postal situation is truly a conspiracy? It seems like the liberal news media is really pushing it as a direct attempt by Trump to take down mail in v****g. While he has expressed his concerns about wide spread, mail in v****g, the liberals seem to see his appointment of a new Post Master General as a direct assault on the concept. They also state that his concerns over an increased chance of v***r f***d with massive mail in v**es are unfounded. Frankly, I think the history of fraud with "Absentee B****ts" has been pretty well established with past e******ns having multiple b****t issues, v**es from deceased citizens, and folks submitting their mail in v**es and still v****g at the polls. Personally, I think Trump has honest concerns about possible v***r f***d that we should all be concerned about, not to mention the future viability of the Postal Service in general.

Anyway, the Postal system has been losing billions of dollars a year for quite some time and the fact that the new Post Master is trying to reel in costs by eliminating overtime, cutting manpower and equipment costs, etc. seems rather straight forward to me. I guess the timing might be a bit off with the e******n looming, but I surely don't believe that his appointment is a direct attempt to sabbotage mail in v****g. In any case, I would like to start a reasonable discussion about this situation if that is possible and I will be v****g at the Polls if I have to wear a body condom to do so!

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Aug 17, 2020 09:02:20   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
My concern is not with mail in v****g but the ability of states to get it right in such a short period of time. Here, in Colorado, we have a rock solid system that is recognized nationwide. It didn't happen overnight, but rather about 10 years of minor stumbling before making it unquestionably secure. I personally will be v****g by mail but admit that the wack job organizations like Q***n, not to mention the White House's current temporary occupant, will have a field day. What I find amusing at the same time is that Trump isn't smart enough to realize that he probably benefits by mail in v****g himself.

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Aug 17, 2020 09:03:01   #
wvgal Loc: mountain state
 
yes, it is as you say. no mail in v****g

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Aug 17, 2020 09:05:43   #
MrPhotog
 
Outside of the fact that I would be curious about seeing a picture of anyone in a full-body condom (I wonder how they would breathe!), I don’t see this being an issue concerning photography.

Perhaps this is not the forum.

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Aug 17, 2020 09:08:44   #
pendennis
 
The USPS has so much inefficiency built in, that 100,000 industrial engineers would have lifetime employment just eliminating the waste in labor and process. It doesn't help that the entire organization is politicized and has a union which keeps staffing rates high for political purposes.

When it was "privatized", there was hope that the late Marvin Runyon would have success, coming from Ford Motor Company. However, even he was thwarted and frustrated at most every turn.

Just one minor example - Why do we have mail delivery six days per week; especially since at least two days each week are dev**ed to delivering junk mail?

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Aug 17, 2020 09:08:48   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
MrPhotog wrote:
Outside of the fact that I would be curious about seeing a picture of anyone in a full-body condom (I wonder how they would breathe!), I don’t see this being an issue concerning photography.

Perhaps this is not the forum.


Not so quick,"Photog," this topic section is here for "all the Non-Photography discussion." Some have been quite lively. Hence the name.

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Aug 17, 2020 09:08:49   #
Bison Bud
 
MrPhotog wrote:
Outside of the fact that I would be curious about seeing a picture of anyone in a full-body condom (I wonder how they would breathe!), I don’t see this being an issue concerning photography.

Perhaps this is not the forum.


Okay for you to have your opinion, but this section is for "general chit-chat/non-photography" and I thought it was a current subject worth discussing. It will probably be sent to the attic is short order anyway.

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Aug 17, 2020 09:13:50   #
Old Grey Beard Loc: Salt Lake City, Utah
 
47greyfox wrote:
My concern is not with mail in v****g but the ability of states to get it right in such a short period of time. Here, in Colorado, we have a rock solid system that is recognized nationwide. It didn't happen overnight, but rather about 10 years of minor stumbling before making it unquestionably secure. I personally will be v****g by mail but admit that the wack job organizations like Q***n, not to mention the White House's current temporary occupant, will have a field day. What I find amusing at the same time is that Trump isn't smart enough to realize that he probably benefits by mail in v****g himself.
My concern is not with mail in v****g but the abil... (show quote)


" Trump isn't smart enough to realize that he probably benefits by mail in v****g himself."
Or he is not comfortable receiving any dishonest v**es.

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Aug 17, 2020 09:19:21   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
First, fear of potential v***r f***d is absolutely unfounded and based on anecdotes without evidence. Second, the cuts are not being made for purely cost-saving reasons. Trump himself has declared that he will lose the e******n if mail-in v****g on a mass scale is allowed. He has vowed to stop it with no evidence of massive v***r f***d. You sound like a whiney little child.

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Aug 17, 2020 09:19:50   #
Flury
 
Is this blog going political? The doute is a cancer and this is what Trump is doing, now since this was put out there the guy needs to go as any political try to cancer this blog...

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Aug 17, 2020 09:26:58   #
ksmmike
 
The two areas where the media is being very dishonest are they are claiming there is no difference between absentee and regular mail in v****g. There is a huge difference. Absentee you apply to get the form and give your reasons. Mail in v****g, the state or municipality sends everyone a b****t, even you don't request it. The v**er rolls are far from accurate and people who shouldn't be getting ones will get one anyway. I know here in Florida hundreds of people were caught v****g in Florida and in other states like NY or PA. It wasn't widely reported but was picked up by the local paper that people were prosecuted for v****g twice in 2016.

What will stop people from v****g with the b****t in the mail and then v****g in person on e******n day? Will there be a safeguard to check for multiple v**es even in the same state? What stops someone from v****g say in NY by mail and then in person or even by mail in Florida if they are on both rolls? Nah, this is going to be a joke with this mail in v****g. With all our technology, we seem to want to muddy the water and make if even less efficient as opposed to making it more secure.

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Aug 17, 2020 09:34:53   #
nicksr1125 Loc: Mesa, AZ
 
My main concern is the postal system has a bad habit of losing mail. The other problem with mail-in v****g follows this scenario: You're a registered v**er; the b****ts are mailed; you die before receiving your b****t; someone at the residence fills out the b****t & signs your name v****g for candidates/issues opposite what you would have. I'll stick with walking into my local polling place.

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Aug 17, 2020 09:34:55   #
steve Loc: Iowa
 
Agree with you bison Bud. Timing is obviously political. Desperation also obvious.

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Aug 17, 2020 09:36:34   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
ksmmike wrote:
The two areas where the media is being very dishonest are they are claiming there is no difference between absentee and regular mail in v****g. There is a huge difference. Absentee you apply to get the form and give your reasons. Mail in v****g, the state or municipality sends everyone a b****t, even you don't request it. The v**er rolls are far from accurate and people who shouldn't be getting ones will get one anyway. I know here in Florida hundreds of people were caught v****g in Florida and in other states like NY or PA. It wasn't widely reported but was picked up by the local paper that people were prosecuted for v****g twice in 2016.

What will stop people from v****g with the b****t in the mail and then v****g in person on e******n day? Will there be a safeguard to check for multiple v**es even in the same state? What stops someone from v****g say in NY by mail and then in person or even by mail in Florida if they are on both rolls? Nah, this is going to be a joke with this mail in v****g. With all our technology, we seem to want to muddy the water and make if even less efficient as opposed to making it more secure.
The two areas where the media is being very dishon... (show quote)


Your questions are ludicrous and can be answered by your state's v**er commission if you care to ask them. Oregon has been v****g by mail for 20 years with no problems. You are a victim of your own imagination.

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Aug 17, 2020 09:36:37   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
Reported in the WSJ today that the previous PMG sent the state the same warning in March.

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