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Aug 19, 2020 08:09:40   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
alawry wrote:
The switch is only making a circuit when you hold it, to trigger the power supply into life. After that it can be removed so not likely to be at fault. Having a light on the MB is a good sign but not enough to be able to say "the power supply is good" so can't be ruled out. So there's still a lot of diagnostics to go. Certainly much easier if you, or the repair person, had a known good power supply to swap in for elimination purposes. I was wondering how your old PC was coming doing, which was also having boot problems..
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I have several old Dell power supplies in the garage, but undoing all that wiring and then trying to connect the Dell supply to his computer...

Is the plug from the power supply to the computer a standard size? If I could unplug one from the MoBo and plug in the other PSU, that wouldn't be so bad, but I can imagine seeing a puff of smoke when I plug it in.

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Aug 19, 2020 08:10:19   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
47greyfox wrote:
Every time I read of what people pay for modern computers and the receive for those dollars, I harken back to 1984 when I bought a Heathkit Z-150. Populated with an 8088 running at 4.77 mhz (I think), 640k mem, 2 360k floppies, and cga, I handed out $1800 and had to build it myself over the course of about 60 hours and hundreds of solder and weighed a bunch. OS was MS DOS 1.1 and included Word 1.0 and Multiplan 1.0. A mouse added $100, a NEC Multisync set me back $400, and a u92 80 column 9 pin dot matrix printer for $375. Eventually, it got a 20 mb hd for $250. Your money went a lot further.
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Remember the $2,500 Apple IIe?

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Aug 19, 2020 09:37:26   #
alawry Loc: Timaru New Zealand
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have several old Dell power supplies in the garage, but undoing all that wiring and then trying to connect the Dell supply to his computer...

Is the plug from the power supply to the computer a standard size? If I could unplug one from the MoBo and plug in the other PSU, that wouldn't be so bad, but I can imagine seeing a puff of smoke when I plug it in.
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Hi Jerry there is probably at least two connectors from power supply to mother board, and then power supply to hard drives although you can probably boot up enough with just mother board for diagnostic purposes. An operating system on a USB drive is handy there. The connectors are reasonably universal; although older Dell did tend to have their own power supplies which were not so generic. That alone was why people tended to put their own system together, Dells own power supply was expensive. Back to the off\on switch it is commonly connected to two pins on the mother board that just need a momentary connection. More good news, generally power connectors only physically fit if they are electrically compatible, it's hard to get it wrong. If you're careful the power supply box needn't be mounted in the PC being tested, nor the suspect unit removed. Good luck. A lot of us follow your progress and keen to hear how you get on. Andrew.

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Aug 19, 2020 09:46:11   #
alawry Loc: Timaru New Zealand
 
alawry wrote:
Hi Jerry there is probably at least two connectors from power supply to mother board, and then power supply to hard drives although you can probably boot up enough with just mother board for diagnostic purposes. An operating system on a USB drive is handy there. The connectors are reasonably universal; although older Dell did tend to have their own power supplies which were not so generic. That alone was why people tended to put their own system together, Dells own power supply was expensive. Back to the off\on switch it is commonly connected to two pins on the mother board that just need a momentary connection. More good news, generally power connectors only physically fit if they are electrically compatible, it's hard to get it wrong. If you're careful the power supply box needn't be mounted in the PC being tested, nor the suspect unit removed. Good luck. A lot of us follow your progress and keen to hear how you get on. Andrew.
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I just thought I'd add, the power switch pins are often incorporated in a plug, which goes into the mother board, that combines with the power light. HDD activity light. Speaker, and reset button. Sometimes also a case fan too is on that same connector.. Maybe referred to as "edge connector" although I think I've seen them sometimes no where near the edge of the MB. If you've built a PC you probably know all that but I just thought I would add the information. Cheers

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Aug 19, 2020 17:25:16   #
alawry Loc: Timaru New Zealand
 
alawry wrote:
Hi Jerry there is probably at least two connectors from power supply to mother board, and then power supply to hard drives although you can probably boot up enough with just mother board for diagnostic purposes. An operating system on a USB drive is handy there. The connectors are reasonably universal; although older Dell did tend to have their own power supplies which were not so generic. That alone was why people tended to put their own system together, Dells own power supply was expensive. Back to the off\on switch it is commonly connected to two pins on the mother board that just need a momentary connection. More good news, generally power connectors only physically fit if they are electrically compatible, it's hard to get it wrong. If you're careful the power supply box needn't be mounted in the PC being tested, nor the suspect unit removed. Good luck. A lot of us follow your progress and keen to hear how you get on. Andrew.
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