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Advice please on Nikon ES-2 slide/film copier with Canon or Olympus lenses
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Aug 14, 2020 11:34:48   #
JimRPhoto Loc: Raleigh NC
 
To funpictures: I was writing my post as you were posting yours. What a great idea! Home made extension tubes for the front end. There is a UHH person in Australia whose post first tipped me of to the slide copier but a different brand, Emora. I then used my small light box just as you suggested, and approximated the distance and frame-fill for a variety of my own lenses with both the Olympus and Canon system. The Nikon ES-2 does have two provided extenders, but I find that I need to get closer, not further away, and my current lenses won’t do it. Nor did the 50mm f/2.8 Canon macro lens, mounted on my FF Canon body, or on my Olympus 4/3 body (adapter with no glass). Thank you for your suggestion. I think that could work, but most likely not with the lenses I currently have available, because as I say, focus and quality are not the issue now. I need to fill the frame, and the farther I get from the slide, the smaller the frame fill. Thanks again. JimR.

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Aug 14, 2020 11:46:12   #
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funpictures wrote:
Jim, I make my adaptors by simply back lighting the slide and moving the holder off the camera until I get full frame and critical focus in a dark room, then measure the distance. Buy extra (used bad lens filters) from your local shop take the glass out and get some plastic (pvc) pipe with ID just smaller than the filter ring OD -- cut to length and glue the filter rings male one end female the other - in each end. Now you have a screw on adaptor the right length. I make mine for Nikon 105 micro and some other lenses out of alum tube and turn to cut the recess notch in my Lathe, but plastic is where I start. If you have access to a lathe it is nice to cut a recess notch to epoxy the filter rings in place and keep everything square. I have found that it can be out about +-.005 and still manage critical focus with the proper F stop. You can calculate the distance - but I have found it is best to just do it empirically and then shorten the distance a little and use the Nikon slide to make final adjustments. I have made several with larger plastic tubes to allow me to stand the 850 on its nose on the light table or on a etched glass lit from the bottom and shoot old negatives that are larger with excellent results.
Jim, I make my adaptors by simply back lighting th... (show quote)


Thaz a lotta work to save $15 when the $15 buys a definitely better solution.

OTOH I did add a coupla emptied out filter rims to my $15 tube set, for fine tuning the length since the filter rims are thinner than any of the tubes.

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Aug 14, 2020 11:49:55   #
wthomson Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
JimRPhoto wrote:
In one old 1969 photo my plaid jacket was not at all crisp in the otherwise OK scan, but really crisp and sharp with the photo copy. JimR.


A 1969 plaid jacket is always crisp, regardless of the fuzziness of the photograph!!!!

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Aug 14, 2020 11:50:02   #
rcarol
 
billnikon wrote:
A flat bad scanner is your best option.


A flatbed scanner is very slow compared to the Nikon ES-2 slide copier.

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Aug 14, 2020 12:03:41   #
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JimRPhoto wrote:
Replying to both wthompson and rcarol, I am using the M Zuiko 12-40 f/2.8 zoom lens, auto focus, at about a 40 mm setting. Recall that the equivalent FF would be 24-80. The diameter of the front of the lens is 62mm, and I use a step down ring to 52mm, and then add (all 52 mm diameter set) a macro front end +1, +2 and +4. The Nikon ES-2 has a 52 mm diameter, so that goes on the front. What I have learned is that the farther I get from the slide I’m copying, the SMALLER the image is in the viewfinder. I tried several combinations of extension tubes at my local camera shop, both in front of the lens, and behind the lens, and none do better than what I have. So I’m thinking I need probably a 50 mm Zuiko lens (100 mm equivalent) that would have a macro/micro feature, and perhaps need the four front end adapters. It would be great if I could find one macro lens that would do the job for either Canon or Olympus. The shop had the Canon 50mm f/2.5 macro, but both with, and without behind the lens extension tubes, it did not work. Now maybe as rcarol suggests, front end extension tubes but with a more telephoto (with macro) would work, but clearly the image needs to be made bigger if there is such a combination. Hope that helps. By the way, I think it will be more than satisfactory as it is now, but it would seem to me that filling the frame more/using more of the sensor, would be a preferable method. Thanks again. JimR
Replying to both wthompson and rcarol, I am using ... (show quote)


Problem with most zooms is that they tend to have too much barrel and glass extending forward of their actual optical center. In some such cases the proper location for your slide, relative to the optical center, is actually somewhere within the space already occupied by all that forward structure of the zoom lens.

With non-wide prime lenses there’s very little physical structure forward of the optical center.

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Aug 17, 2020 14:50:45   #
funpictures Loc: Olathe Kansas
 
Jim, greetings. I wanted to add some information on an easy way to make ES2 type accessories. It does not matter what camera lens or combo you are using all the ES2 does is hold the object just past the shortest focal length for the lens to focus. If you simply take any combo you have and focus clearly at the closest distance to the slide on any back-lit source -measure the distance from the front of the lens to the slide- that is the distance you need to use - to add to/modify the tubes on the ES2. On a Nikon 105 the focal distance is just over 180 cm total but you need to add only slightly over 3 inches to make it work with existing ES2.

I took the approach of adding some screw on adaptors made from old lens filters attached the extension.
That makes it easy to just screw on the extension on the lens you are using and the screw on the ES2 to the other end.

Low cost under $ 10.00
If you want to eliminate the ES2 just take some PVC tube 3in or 4in, in diameter and cut to the focal length needed - measure from the front of your lens to the image plane. - and make a plate/cover with a hole in it 1/8 inch slightly smaller than the filter ring on your lens. Place the item/slide/negative on a back lit surface, mask off all light except what goes thru the film, and set your tube over the light source. Place the plate/cover on top of the tube rest your camera, lens down, over the hole, look thru the view finder center the image. This makes a trouble free non vibration copy camera out of your camera. Shoot the image at the highest resolution possible -- it allows you to even use the auto focus. Shoot negatives and invert in any convenient software etc. Don't bother trying to make the image a perfect full frame fit, use the advantage of critical focus of these new cameras and then just post crop. I get magnificent results on slides and negatives over 40 years old.

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Aug 17, 2020 14:57:04   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
smussler wrote:
I scan slides using an ES-1 adapter with a 40mm Macro/Micro lenses with mt D5600 cropped sensor camera.
Frame is filled.
With full frame a 60mm Macro should work. I don't know what difference is with ES-2 adapter.
Do you have the directions for the adapter? Should be down loadable from Nikon site.
The directions for the ES-1 don't describe using it with a cropped sensor. I did some googling first before buying the adapter and 40mm Micro.
I use only the adapter, Camera and 40mm lens. No extensions rings or anything else. Works great.
I scan slides using an ES-1 adapter with a 40mm Ma... (show quote)


The ES-2 also has mounting rings to work with the 40mm lens on a crop sensor camera.

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