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Aug 12, 2020 15:23:51   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
You are of course correct. I explained in my post that I knew nothing about the fish eye he was asking about and my reason for posting. You could have directed your post to me at every other poster including yourself right up until I chimed in and been just as accurate. How did you miss that point? Was I incorrect in my post?

Dennis


And my point is that your post was no more useful than those you were complaining about. I didn’t direct it at others because they weren’t making that complaint.

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Aug 12, 2020 15:38:57   #
User ID
 
dennis2146 wrote:
How much more did the OP need to put in? He asked specifically about the Meike fisheye. Not one person gave one word of copy about THAT fisheye.

Of course brands are identical. Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Leica and others ALL make a 50mm f1.4 lens. Yet reviewers give different pro’s and con’s for each. I am sorry if you cannot see the difference.

DO you have a Meike fisheye? The OP did not ask for similar nor did he ask for general information about what these lenses are capable of. Read his question and then get back to me about how I am wrong.

I honestly can’t believe this attack on me for voicing my opinion that not one person answered the question.

Dennis
How much more did the OP need to put in? He asked... (show quote)


You do not comprehend the meaning of “identical” and based on your posts thus far I really doubt you will look it up. Your attempts at the written word are trash yet you keep piling it higher and deeper. Attempts to explain anything to you leave you claiming you’re being attacked.

So OK then. No more Professor Niceguy. Explaining anything to you has been a sorry waste of time and apparently always will be. If you read unvarnished fact as an attack, thaz your problem, no one else’s.

Carry on. I know you will.

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Aug 12, 2020 15:41:22   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
And my point is that your post was no more useful than those you were complaining about. I didn’t direct it at others because they weren’t making that complaint.


Nor were they or you for that matter answering the question asked.

Dennis

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Aug 12, 2020 15:43:29   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
User ID wrote:
You do not comprehend the meaning of “identical” and based on your posts thus far I really doubt you will look it up. Your attempts at the written word are trash yet you keep piling it higher and deeper. Attempts to explain anything to you leave you claiming you’re being attacked.

OK. No more Professor Niceguy. Explaining anything to you has been a sorry waste of time and apparently always will be. If you read naked facts as attacks, thaz your problem, no one else’s.

Carry on. I know you will.
You do not comprehend the meaning of “identical” a... (show quote)


Damn right I will. While I am busy carrying on do read the one simple question from the OP, again. Ask yourself if anyone answered the question YET.

Have a wonderful day,

Dennis

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Aug 12, 2020 15:45:55   #
User ID
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Nor were they or you for that matter answering the question asked.

Dennis


ROTFLMFAO

Dennis, brave champion of the halfazzed question, jousts with those who’ve tried gallantly to reasonably answer it anywho. Beware of the windmills. They are all out to get you.

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Aug 12, 2020 16:15:40   #
User ID
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Damn right I will. While I am busy carrying on do read the one simple question from the OP, again. Ask yourself if anyone answered the question YET.

Have a wonderful day,

Dennis


You’re so dogged that, fleas and all, you surely deserve to succeed in your quest, so here it is:

@OP. Your attention please !

As a user, I personally recommend the lens about which you asked, as exactly as you’ve described it.

It works on ALL formats flawlessly for all subjects from wildlife to proctology. I strongly suggest you get a pair as they excel at stereoscopy.

Get them in EF mount to maximize their adaptability to various brands of cameras which I will likewise recommend to you.

For further revelations please use PM.

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Aug 12, 2020 17:53:55   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
kcj wrote:
What does anyone know about the Meike 8 mm fish eye lens


I don't have one.

In fact, I don't have any fisheye at the moment. They are simply not a type of lens I use a whole lot. I've had them in the past, but sold them after a while because they weren't getting any use. Another response suggested renting, which is an option. But the Meike at $155 or so isn't a big investment, it would probably cost that or more to rent a high-end fisheye for two or three weeks!

But I do know there is one version for APS-C format mirrorless Sony e-mount, Canon EF-M, Oly/Panasonic micro 4/3 and Fuji x-mount.

There's also another version or variant of the lens claiming full frame/FX capability available for Canon EF and Nikon F-mount DSLRs.

I was very surprised to see it listed as rectilinear fisheye, which fills the entire image area, even on full frame. On full frame often ultra short focal length 8 and 10mm fisheye like this only produce a round image within the image area, with a border of black around that (as shown in a previous response). According to all the listings I find for the Meike 8mm, that's not the case with it, at least with the version for Canon and Nikon DSLRs. (P.S. Canon's own discontinued full frame fisheye was 15mm. They now only offer an EF 8-15mm f/4L zoom fisheye, which makes a circular image on full frame at 8mm and a rectilinear one at 15mm... Oh and I just checked at Lensrentals.com and the cost to rent the Canon 8-15mm for a week is $73 before shipping, insurance and tax).

The Meike 8mm is manual focus AND manual aperture. Depending upon your camera, you might need to set it to "shoot without lens", because there is no electronic communication between lens and camera, so the camera doesn't "know" that lens is installed and might try to prevent the shutter from releasing.

Manual focus is no problem with a lens like this. A fisheye has such great depth of field you would hardly need to focus it much of the time.

The manual aperture isn't a very big deal, either. On most cameras you should still be able to use Aperture Priority auto exposure, as well as Manual + Auto ISO AE and plain Manual exposure mode (no Auto ISO).

I do have another Meike lens, a 12mm f/2.8 ultrawide angle that I bought to use on Canon M5 mirrorless camera (APS-C). It's similarly manual focus and manual aperture control only, as well. Frankly, I was surprised how nicely built it was, when it arrived! The body is all metal, the lens hood is plastic but fits well, and even the clip on lens cap is decent. No complaints from me! It even has decent sharpness and image quality, as you'll see in the blossoming Jacaranda tree image below (sorry, I don't recall what aperture I used and there is no EXIF data about that recorded with a non-electronic lens like this... it was probably a middle aperture like f/5.6 or f/8). Shot with a 24MP camera, I've prepped the image below to print 16x24", but haven't actually gotten it printed yet. This is a scaled down version for posting here, within the size limits of UHH. A higher resolution camera like a Canon M6 Mark II with 32.5MP might not work as well with this lens. The same might be true with the DSLR version of the lens, if it were used on a demanding and unforgiving camera like 50MP Canon 5DS or 45MP Nikon D850.

For a real budget priced lens, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the 12mm Meike (which is also sold under the Opteka brand name). It's a far better lens than I expected for the price I paid (I bought a demo unit for quite a bit less than the usual price new).

Even though I don't have it, I suspect you'd find the 8mm fisheye is similar quality. There are some reviews of it online, if you do a Google search. You might also find it selling under the Opteka brand name (like the 12mm). At any rate, it's not a big investment and so long as you buy from a reputable dealer like B&H or Adorama, it would probably be returnable if you don't like it.


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Aug 12, 2020 18:48:59   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
wjones8637 wrote:
Interesting images, I especially like number 3. What technique do you use to stay out of the picture when the lens sees behind itself?

Bill


I'm thinking you meant that question for me - as i'm the one that posted the photos to which you refer.

As it happens, #3 was taken with the camera laying down on its back facing skyward, and triggered remotely after I stepped a few yards away so as not to be in the shot.

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Aug 12, 2020 19:47:41   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
kcj wrote:
What does anyone know about the Meike 8 mm fish eye lens


Personally no.
But it seems to be well regarded especially for the price.
Several good reviews of it.

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Aug 12, 2020 20:41:13   #
wjones8637 Loc: Burleson, TX
 
f8lee wrote:
I'm thinking you meant that question for me - as i'm the one that posted the photos to which you refer.

As it happens, #3 was taken with the camera laying down on its back facing skyward, and triggered remotely after I stepped a few yards away so as not to be in the shot.


Thank you, that's what I suspected.

Bill

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Aug 17, 2020 03:08:59   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
I have a Samyang 8mm fisheye. I like it a lot. It is full frame on a crop sensor.
I believe that it is the same mfg as the Meiki. I don't use it enough to validate spending any more money on a fish eye, but I really like the effect.
It is a very good lens, and you should be happy with it.

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Sep 1, 2022 00:07:11   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
topcat wrote:
I have a Samyang 8mm fisheye. I like it a lot. It is full frame on a crop sensor.
I believe that it is the same mfg as the Meiki. I don't use it enough to validate spending any more money on a fish eye, but I really like the effect.
It is a very good lens, and you should be happy with it.

Oooops...just noticed the date of the post to which I was responding. Deleted

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