Wearing a Neck Gaiter is Worse than Wearing No Mask at All (Page 2): The other thing is that they themselves are not quite as 'invulnerable' as they may feel. There are documented...

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

fantom wrote:

Yes, I realize they feel invulnerable to the disease, with minimal effects if they do get it. I hope, however, that they remember to apologize to their parents and grand parents who they pass it along to.

The other thing is that they themselves are not quite as 'invulnerable' as they may feel. There are documented cases of younger people dying of this infection. Also, CNN has reported of people coming off infection, but heart inflammation remaining {no reports yet from peer-reviewed journal} - we do know that this virus can cause inflammation of various organs. The first Americans died just about six months ago - our knowledge is still so limited.

fantom Loc: Colorado

rehess wrote:

The other thing is that they themselves are not quite as 'invulnerable' as they may feel. There are documented cases of younger people dying of this infection. Also, CNN has reported of people coming off infection, but heart inflammation remaining {no reports yet from peer-reviewed journal} - we do know that this virus can cause inflammation of various organs. The first Americans died just about six months ago - our knowledge is still so limited.

So, try telling all of that to a horny 23 year old. Do you think they are worried. Those things happen to the other guy or gal---that is the unfortunate reality.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

A local friend posted on Facebook and asked readers of the post to respond as to whether they had any first hand knowledge of people with Covid 19 (and he defined “first hand”). I just read it, and he had just over a hundred respondents. A fair number of zeros (maybe 20-25%), but the chilling ones were the “5, 2 died”, or “7 coworkers, 3 in hospital”, or (from a first responder) “8, 4 deaths”. Makes it way more personal when you know the people rather than just seeing statistics on TV.

usken65

You people are the one’s missing the point. It’s not going away ever. The masks and all the other crap just prolong the time it is actively spreading. The more time it takes to spread the more deaths will accumulate. If it was allowed to run it’s course in the first place it would in all probability be gone until next year.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

usken65 wrote:

You people are the one’s missing the point. It’s not going away ever. The masks and all the other crap just prolong the time it is actively spreading. The more time it takes to spread the more deaths will accumulate. If it was allowed to run it’s course in the first place it would in all probability be gone until next year.

No, you are missing the point.

The point is not to get this thing, not ever.

Punct.

Some people who get it will never “recover”, because of the type of damage it can cause.

Getting it is not inevitable.

Polio was common in my neighborhood when I was a child - people died from it also - but in 72 years I never caught it. Come to think of it, I believe “polio season” was about now every year; I remember their closing pools and discontinuing ‘elective surgeries’ every year.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

rehess wrote:

The mantra now is
1. sanitizing hands
2. social distance
3. mask
4. avoid crowds, which includes most bars

Avoid beach parties, too. : )

I haven't been to a bar or a beach since I can remember. Actually, I can remember. Before my wife and I were married (1966) we went to a bar because that seemed to be the thing to do. BORING!

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

rehess wrote:

No, you are missing the point. br br The point is... (show quote)

Right. Getting it and recovering doesn't mean you're fit as a fiddle again. There have been lots of lingering health problems discovered.

I remember the polio scare when I was a kid. I'm sure my parents were more concerned than I was. My wife received a card as a child - Polio Pioneer. She was an early receiver of the shot.

I heard a story about Dr. Salk. He was visiting an elementary school, and the teacher introduced him as the man who developed a cure for polio. A boy raised his hand and asked, "What's polio." Salk said that was the best thing he ever heard.

One of the insidious traits of Covid-19 is that you can be infected and spreading it for up to two weeks before you start to show symptoms. That's why testing - and getting the results quickly - is so important.

Sirsnapalot Loc: Hammond, Louisiana

Covid-19, a bit of bad news.....

Renowned European scientist: COVID-19 was engineered in China lab, effective vaccine ‘unlikely’ | Blogs | LifeSite

‪https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/renowned-european-scientist-covid-19-was-engineered-in-china-lab-effective-vaccine-unlikely‬

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

Sirsnapalot wrote:

Covid-19, a bit of bad news.....‬

Both points are speculation, not news.

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

usken65 wrote:

You people are the one’s missing the point. It’s not going away ever. The masks and all the other crap just prolong the time it is actively spreading.

Which means the masks are working.

usken65 wrote:

The more time it takes to spread the more deaths will accumulate.

Grossly untrue: ⒈ The less time it takes to spread, the more deaths will occur all at once, overwhelming hospitals, depriving some people of the care they would have received had the hospitals not been overwhelmed, thereby increasing the mortality. ⒉ The slower it spreads, the more experience we have in treating it, for example we have learned better ways to support the respiratory system, we know that corticosteroids can lower mortality, we know that remdesivir helps, etc. Compare mortality rates in NYC to other states where the disease has peaked later.

usken65 wrote:

If it was allowed to run it’s course in the first place it would in all probability be gone until next year.

Maybe yes, but likely at a higher level of morbidity and mortality. We don't know where you live (your profile says "in hiding") but are you willing to turn it into NYC?

rplain1 Loc: Dayton, Oh.

usken65 wrote:

You people are the one’s missing the point. It’s not going away ever. The masks and all the other crap just prolong the time it is actively spreading. The more time it takes to spread the more deaths will accumulate. If it was allowed to run it’s course in the first place it would in all probability be gone until next year.

And with that attitude, so would you.

Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga

What I don't get is why these protests are not considered transmission venues. Political bias?

berchman Loc: South Central PA

fantom wrote:

Yes, and I wish more folks practiced it.

Maybe not so simple. It looks like social distancing might really require staying out of indoor spaces and staying far away from others when outdoors.

A Smoking Gun’: Infectious Coronavirus Retrieved From Hospital Air

Airborne virus plays a significant role in community transmission, many experts believe. A new study fills in the missing piece: Floating virus can infect cells.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/health/coronavirus-aerosols-indoors.html?smid=em-share

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

berchman wrote:

Maybe not so simple. It looks like social distancing might really require staying out of indoor spaces and staying far away from others when outdoors.

Don't worry.

Since my last text here, I visited my Dermatologist to have a pre-cancerous growth removed from my forehead.
Everyone was masked - no one was worried.

fantom Loc: Colorado

berchman wrote:

Maybe not so simple. It looks like social distancing might really require staying out of indoor spaces and staying far away from others when outdoors.

A Smoking Gun’: Infectious Coronavirus Retrieved From Hospital Air

Airborne virus plays a significant role in community transmission, many experts believe. A new study fills in the missing piece: Floating virus can infect cells.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/health/coronavirus-aerosols-indoors.html?smid=em-share

Not so simple???? But it is a starting point and is useful, to a degree, to limit the uncontrolled spread. Do you have a better alternative at this time? Please share it with us.