Not exactly breathing in what Trump said but nevertheless, a breathable lung treatment that does work.
I have not watched or listened to the entire clip, but as a former medical practitioner, I would prefer to see scientific proof from studies regarding the use of budesonide as a treatment or cure for COVID-19. What is reported her is anecdotal reports and will not hold up for acceptance by the WHO, CDC, or any major research group. It sounds good, but more information is required to rule out any potential side effects, adverse reactions, or potential harm from this drug's use for COVID-19.
Interesting! Certainly sounds more promising than intravenous Clorox.
Fotoartist wrote:
Not exactly breathing in what Trump said but nevertheless, a breathable lung treatment that does work.
Fotoartist, I'm glad you watched it. I know it was lengthy. What did you think? Anything to it?
PhotogHobbyist wrote:
I have not watched or listened to the entire clip, but as a former medical practitioner, I would prefer to see scientific proof from studies regarding the use of budesonide as a treatment or cure for COVID-19. What is reported her is anecdotal reports and will not hold up for acceptance by the WHO, CDC, or any major research group. It sounds good, but more information is required to rule out any potential side effects, adverse reactions, or potential harm from this drug's use for COVID-19.
I'm glad you (a former medical practitioner,) made some comments about it. I would hope that you could find the time to watch the entire video. In the report the Doctor had 100% success rate.
repleo wrote:
Interesting! Certainly sounds more promising than intravenous Clorox.
repleo, did you watch the entire video? If not, I highly recommend seeing it all!
National Park wrote:
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/asthma-medicine-not-proven-as-covid-19-cure/
Thanks for doing some research on this and your link. In the link it says "experts say the medication has not yet been proven as an effective treatment for COVID-19". My question is this: Why don't the institutions that verify these treatments check it out and come to a conclusion?????????
BrentHarder wrote:
Thanks for doing some research on this and your link. In the link it says "experts say the medication has not yet been proven as an effective treatment for COVID-19". My question is this: Why don't the institutions that verify these treatments check it out and come to a conclusion?????????
Because that is not their job.
phlash46
Loc: Westchester County, New York
I'll believe it when it works in a peer reviewed, double blind large study. For now I think this is bullwhompy. God gave him a winning strategy? Seriously?
PhotogHobbyist wrote:
I have not watched or listened to the entire clip, but as a former medical practitioner, I would prefer to see scientific proof from studies regarding the use of budesonide as a treatment or cure for COVID-19. What is reported her is anecdotal reports and will not hold up for acceptance by the WHO, CDC, or any major research group. It sounds good, but more information is required to rule out any potential side effects, adverse reactions, or potential harm from this drug's use for COVID-19.
Remember WHO and CDC have been totally wrong on the Chinese flu every step of the way and also it appears about 98% of the so called research groups.
I have been a broad range "cover the waterfront" researcher all my life; 5 years of which was in chemical pneumonitis ... inflammation of the lungs or breathing difficulty due to inhaling chemical fumes. Wayne State University [Detroit] Medical College, Environmental Health. After that connecting the dots for improving industrial processes and ending up 15 years of air pollution consulting. So consider what i am suggesting as simply a suggestion based on what my thoughts were and what I did for my self. My story is personal and not a prescription for a path for any of you reading it. Consider me a quack so i can duck any problems that result from my musings. Do take a healthy smile at my use of Quack and Duck in that sentence.
I did not watch the video, I googled and read Dr. Bartlett information instead: "For more than 20 years, doctors have prescribed budesonide, an anti-inflammatory, as preventive medicine for asthmatics. Inhaled corticosteroids, in fact, have been used for some time in patients of all ages, and very safe. On a theoretical basis, employing steroids to fight COVID-19 makes practical sense."
https://fortune.com/2020/07/24/budesonide-coronavirus-covid-richard-bartlett/For what my unqualified opinion is worth, I concur with Bartlett's work. I independently researched a similar approach months ago based on two things, using steroids to prevent the body from overreaction destroying lung tissue, and washing hands with soap/surfactant to deactivate the fat, lipid, shell of the virus. Combining the two comes down to a Russian paper on asthma treatment that uses a mist containing a surfactant and asteroid. Often like in Photography minimal is better than complicated... using an asthma treatment to prevent or mitigate CV-19 to mild or asymptomatic is better than allowing the acute stage to ever appear. My June visit to the primary care physician I had her prescribe an Asthma inhaler which tho not asthmatic I use at least twice a week. Essentially a do no harm drug for my 84 year old mildly reactive to pollution, household chemicals, and allergies. Certainly worth the use vs death CV-19; remember, the hospital would send me home to die.. no beds available except at the morticians Wearhouse.
"This paper discusses the administration of
surfactants, anti-inflammatory agents, and analgesics by the aerosol route." [asthma drugs]
http://rc.rcjournal.com/content/60/6/774I suggested that by taking this type of medication the virus, for the most part, is deactivated [lipid shell removal] and tissue/immune is not overstimulated. What viruses do go thru and replicate are for the most part deactivated. The body has a chance to form antibodies so that the case is mild.
A quote: "The role of surfactant in asthma: Pulmonary surfactant is a unique mixture of lipids and surfactant-specific proteins that covers the entire alveolar surface of the lungs. Surfactant is not restricted to the alveolar compartment; it also reaches terminal conducting airways and is present in upper airway secretions. While the role of surfactant in the alveolar compartment has been intensively elucidated both in health and disease states, the possible role of surfactant in the airways requires further research. "
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC64815/
Architect1776 wrote:
Remember WHO and CDC have been totally wrong on the Chinese flu every step of the way and also it appears about 98% of the so called research groups.
Sorry, I can't "remember" that because I never knew it in the first place... And I still don't know it....
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