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Jul 26, 2020 08:10:33   #
PoppieJ Loc: North Georgia
 
I am going on a night sky photography workshop. I just wanted to ask you all what is the best lens to use. I will be able to rent from Borrowlenses or lensrental to get what I need as my current wide angle only stops down to f4. I shoot canon so that has to be considered as some glass will not work without adapters that I do not want to use.

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Jul 26, 2020 08:16:15   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
What does the workshop guy recommend?

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Jul 26, 2020 08:16:25   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
I'm happy with my Sigma 24 ART.

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Jul 26, 2020 08:18:59   #
ELNikkor
 
Nikon 20 1.8

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Jul 26, 2020 08:20:54   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
ELNikkor wrote:
Nikon 20 1.8

Do they have adapters for his Canon?

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Jul 26, 2020 08:21:03   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
If you're going to rent a lens for the shoot, consider the Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L III or the Canon EF 14mm f/2.8L II.

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Jul 26, 2020 08:22:52   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
The Rokinon 14mm f2.8 works nicely for Milky Way/nightscapes. If you are wanting anything to capture nebula, galaxies, planets you should consider a telescope. You can get some larger brighter nebula with a camera lens, but it gets much more difficult without a accurate tracking mount.

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Jul 26, 2020 08:28:13   #
par4fore Loc: Bay Shore N.Y.
 
Wide angle with a hard stop at infinity.

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Jul 26, 2020 08:30:34   #
1CanonGuy Loc: Texas
 
PoppieJ wrote:
I am going on a night sky photography workshop. I just wanted to ask you all what is the best lens to use. I will be able to rent from Borrowlenses or lensrental to get what I need as my current wide angle only stops down to f4. I shoot canon so that has to be considered as some glass will not work without adapters that I do not want to use.


If you are shooting nite time city Pictures I use 50mm or 85mm, and if taking pictures of the Milky Way same lenses at f4 to f8. And make use Of a slow shutter speed.

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Jul 26, 2020 08:53:25   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
PoppieJ wrote:
I am going on a night sky photography workshop. I just wanted to ask you all what is the best lens to use. I will be able to rent from Borrowlenses or lensrental to get what I need as my current wide angle only stops down to f4. I shoot Canon so that has to be considered as some glass will not work without adapters that I do not want to use.


Yes, what does the workshop instructor suggest for your camera brand. You'll want a fast WA Prime Lens, say f/1.2 to f/2. What model Canon camera are you talking about? Since you are renting, price for WA should not be a limit I would think.

I found that these exist and might do the job. You did say "best" and Wide Angle.

Canon EF 24mm f/1.4L II USM
Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L II USM
Canon EF 35mm f/2 IS USM
Sigma 14mm f/1.8 DG HSM | Art
Sigma 20mm f/1.4 DG HSM | Art
Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM | Art
Tamron SP 35mm f/1.8 Di VC USD
Zeiss Milvus 2/35mm

For "Normal" 50mm Primes lens for Canon FF cameras there are

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 STM
Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM
Canon EF 50mm f/1.2L USM
Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM / ART
Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 Milvus ZE

In use you will probably still have to stop these down to f/2 or f/2.8 or even f/4.

Good luck. Hope you get some great images.


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Jul 26, 2020 16:37:22   #
PoppieJ Loc: North Georgia
 
thanks for the replies. The workshop instructor does not really recommend any particular lens. Just says wide angle, faster the better, but will work with whatever people bring. I have a 24-70 f4 but was wanting to get a faster, wider or both lens to take with me. I had heard good things about the Rokinon but they are not as available to rent as some of the more expensive lenses. I am worried about coma as well as barrel distortion that comes with the ultra wide angle, but don't have any real experience with the ultra wide angle.

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Jul 26, 2020 17:33:36   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
PoppieJ wrote:
I am going on a night sky photography workshop. I just wanted to ask you all what is the best lens to use. I will be able to rent from Borrowlenses or lensrental to get what I need as my current wide angle only stops down to f4. I shoot canon so that has to be considered as some glass will not work without adapters that I do not want to use.


I have participated in two night sky workshops led by different instructors and following somewhat different philosophies and approaches. At both workshops, the preferred arrangement was a 14-24mm f/2.8 wide angle lens on a full frame body of recent enough vintage to be able to work comfortably at ISO 4,000. A friend who accompanied me to the most recent one got pretty good results with a new AF-P Nikkor 10-20mm DX lens on a D500, but he had to work a little bit harder because of its f/4.5-f/5.6 aperture range. The loss of that 1.5 stops at the wide end made him deeply reliant on reaching down into the dynamic range capability of his camera. The biggest immediate problem was not being able to generate a visible review image on his LCD screen.

I don't see that you tell us what camera you are using. It can make a difference.

You can make just about any focal length work if you are willing to deal with increasingly complex panoramas, but lenses slower than f/2.8 can be really painful. Longer lenses need to be faster, because your longest shutter speed is going to be 500/focal length. That's whether you are shooting full frame or DX or any other format. Extremely high resolution sensors will cause you to want to shorten your exposures closer to 300/focal length.

The reason that it is preferred to get to 14mm is that focal length, in portrait mode on a full frame camera, will allow capture of a reasonable amount of the foreground landscape while extending to within 15 or 20 degrees of straight overhead. This time of year, that gets really important when the time gets to midnight or past. And you need a lens with limited vignetting in the corners and no more than a reasonable amount of distortion in order to avoid big problems when assembling your panoramas.

Please be careful following advice from folks who from their comments clearly have never done a successful Milky Way image.

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Jul 26, 2020 20:06:50   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
PoppieJ wrote:
thanks for the replies. The workshop instructor does not really recommend any particular lens. Just says wide angle, faster the better, but will work with whatever people bring. I have a 24-70 f4 but was wanting to get a faster, wider or both lens to take with me. I had heard good things about the Rokinon but they are not as available to rent as some of the more expensive lenses. I am worried about coma as well as barrel distortion that comes with the ultra wide angle, but don't have any real experience with the ultra wide angle.
thanks for the replies. The workshop instructor d... (show quote)


This was my first Milky Way shot with the Rokinon. I rested my camera on a lava rock wall on Maunakea in Hawaii.


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Jul 26, 2020 20:51:07   #
PoppieJ Loc: North Georgia
 
thanks Larry for the reply. Makes sense. I am using a canon 6d, and while I have done some night photography, I seldom ever have done any starry sky shots where I have had any foreground

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Jul 26, 2020 20:54:05   #
PoppieJ Loc: North Georgia
 
alberio wrote:
This was my first Milky Way shot with the Rokinon. I rested my camera on a lava rock wall on Maunakea in Hawaii.


good detail in the picture. that is a good recommendation for the Rokinon lens

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