iamimdoc

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2 Monitor setup. Profiled with a borrowed ColorMunki device last fall. Different monitors at that time. Two different profiles created for Monitor 1 (old), Monitor 2 (new). Monitor 1 and 2 were not same devices

Windows10

Monitor 1 faded recently and replaced with a new monitor - both Monitor 1 and 2 are now same devices.

Windows still reports using old not appropriate profile on Monitor 1, different but appropriate profile for Monitor 2. I see no way to replace Monitor 1 profile (for prior monitor) with Monitor 2 profile (theoretically appropriate for both devices). Can this be done (force Monitor 2 profile onto Monitor 1)? Perhaps this would make monitors look more similar for now.

Presumably I really need to calibrate both monitors to allow for differences in manufacture.

I am non professional hobbyist. Rarely print anymore but I find different color balance on monitors distracting, irritating, etc.

Thus, please make suggestions for *appropriate to me* ColorMunki equivalent product.

Thanks

yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey

Can you delete the Monitor 1 profile and choose the Monitor 2 profile as default? In terms of colorimeters, I use and like the Datacolor SpyderX Pro, but Xrite makes good ones as well.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Along with another vote for SpyderX Pro.
--Bob

adedeluca Loc: holbrook ny

I would just calibrate again

iamimdoc

Borrowed Colomunki.

Need to get similar if I must...

adedeluca Loc: holbrook ny

My printing improved greatly after I used my Color Munki . Screen now matches Print about 95percent now . It is like trying to see through rose colored glasses when buying clothing.

ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca

THAT WORKS
For Me !!

iamimdoc

Is there no way to replace the monitor 1 profile? Windows shows me what it is but I see no way to change it.

Thanks

adedeluca Loc: holbrook ny

Re profile it to be sure

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Unless you're using professional monitors with 10-bit display capability and a 10-bit video card, either DataColor Spyder X or X-Rite Colormunki will do just fine.

The important thing to do, if you care about color, is to calibrate both monitors at the same time, to the same standard gamma, black point, white point, and initial color temperature. Reset both to their factory values and re-calibrate, re-profile. Repeat monthly for best results.

I ran the color correction department of a portrait lab. We had nine identical monitors. Uncalibrated, none of them looked like any other one. Calibrated and profiled, they weren't exactly the same, but they came very close to each other. Even better, our prints matched them all very closely.

Screwing around trying to rename profiles — or use profiles for different devices or standards — will just frustrate the hell out of you. So will trying to use ANY visual method of calibration, unless you have absolutely perfect color vision, which only about 0.2% of the population do.

BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA

The Xrite calibration tools seem to be the best. And Yes, you do need to recalibrate the monitor if that is the one you are using to view your images during post processing.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

You should profile your displays at least monthly, as they do fade and change. In this case, even though you have the same displays now, one is older than the other and obviously not the same as it was when you profiled it a year ago - so I totally agree with you on that.

I would avoid the Colormunki - it lacks the granularity in adjustment that it's bigger brother - the i1Display Pro has. While you brand yourself as a hobbyist, you clearly are distracted by even small differences that others might ignore. Do yourself a favor and just by the i1 Display Pro. It has better software and you'll get a more accureate profile.

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

See the link below. Datacolor Spyder and X-Rite i1 are the most commonly found alternatives (ColorMunki was bought by X-Rite, if I recall correctly, and has now been phased out).

You need to buy a calibration device and use it more regularly. Monitors lose brightness and shift color rendition as they age. They need to be re-calibrated periodically. I do it monthly. I wouldn't let it go for more than 2 or 3 months.... You're using calibrations that are 8 or 9 months old!

Also, every monitor needs to be calibrated individually. The profile for one is almost never the same for another. You have mixed them up and even replaced at least one of your monitors with a new one, so the calibration profiles you've got are not only out of date, they also are not relevant to the monitor(s) you're now using!

It's no wonder you're seeing serious mis-matching between your monitors. Any prints you make would likely be way, way off too.

Get a calibration device:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?q=monitor%20calibration&sort=PRICE_LOW_TO_HIGH&filters=fct_brand_name%3Adatacolor%7Cx-rite%2Cfct_calibration-type_2612%3Acolor-calibration-system%2Cfct_category%3Acolor_management_hardware_12000%2Cfct_operating-system_2531%3Awindows

Or borrow the one you used before, if you have regular access to it.

You need to calibrate your monitor more regularly. It's not a one-time-and-done thing! It has to be redone every so often. Some pro labs calibrate DAILY or WEEKLY.

If you are involved in a local photography club, sometimes they will pool their resources to buy a calibration device, to be shared by the members. It's not something most of us need to use every day... but once a month or so.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Alan's right about labs. Where I worked, we calibrated all nine of our "critical evaluation" monitors on a weekly basis, or whenever one's standard reference image we kept on screen didn't closely match the reference print in the viewing box. It was worth it... Color management saved us hundreds of thousands of dollars in wasted paper, chemistry, labor, water, printer/processor wear, and power. Our lab throughput improved significantly when we had far fewer remakes to print.

CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska

Definitely calibrate both monitors. As a heads up, ColorMunki has been discontinued for Mac as the current operating system only supports 64 bit programs. Mac user have moved to "i1display STUDIO." I don't know if this is true for windows too. Double check before you spend any bucks.
...Cam