PH CIB

A Vaccine when injected causes the Patient to develop Antibodies to Covid or the Flu or whatever disease the Vaccine is developed for.....Taking a Blood draw from a Recovered Covid Patient with Antibodies in their Blood and injecting that into a Patient with the same Blood Type should put those Antibodies into the Bloodstream of the Patient thus doing exactly the same as a Vaccine...

Recovered Patients could be paid a goodly sum for the blood draw and the draw could immediately be administered or stored...Looking at Recovery Rates as opposed to New Infected Rates this would probably never produce enough unless administered only to those who are sick but that is probably not the reason this is not being done on a large scale...

Follow the Money,,,,it is all about the Companies getting Money to develop the Vaccine and Those Who will Profit from the Vaccine,,,,it is Always Only All About the Money.....and Those Who Profit from it......

Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV

How much blood would you need to have added to your system to get enough antibodies to match a vaccine?

Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal

Ssssh!
How long befrore the guvmint sends the Tracers and the Swats?!?!
They'll find out you're a survivor. A citizenn "immune".
Kick down the door at 4am, kick your head, and drain a couple pints.
Hey! Those New York bankers aren't going to heal themselves, ya know!

rwoodvira

Here's a brief description:
https://medium.com/@macromoltek/the-difference-between-vaccines-and-antibody-therapeutics-d4c82f9abfdf

In the long run, vaccines are a more permanent solution; except when the virus mutates, then you might have to update the virus. And whoever comes up with that vaccine - its like printing money.

Sadly, some viruses have problems resist vaccines; AIDS is an example.

PH CIB

Thank You for the reply and link, very interesting...But unless I am missing something it was comparing Vaccines with Antibody Drugs not a Blood Draw of Antibodies from Someone who has recovered from the Disease, if a Blood Draw works One would think the Federal Government and/or the individual State Governments would be actively recruiting Recovered Covid Patients and offering to pay them Handsomely for a Blood Draw to be used on Sick Patients or to be stored to be used on future Sick Patients...Does the Article You presented mean that there might be an immune response like to Antibody Drugs in the Article ? Anyway I Thank You for the Article and look forward to your reply....

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

When they use "antibodies from a recovered patient", typically they take everything solid out of the donated blood and return them to the donor; the recipient receives only the blood plasma, which contains the antibodies, which then allows the recipient {irregardless of blood type} to 'fight' any current or near-future infection of Covid. A vaccination provokes the recipient's body to build its own antibodies.

So, the "antibodies from recovered patient" is an immediate affect and is viewed as a means of fighting current infection, while a vaccination won't fight current infection but is probably longer lasting.

See the discussion at
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-648899-1.html

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

Vaccine = prevents healthy people from getting infected.
Antibodies from a recovered patient = treats people who got infected.
Personally, I'd rather not get the infection in the first place, but would be glad to have effective treatment available in case I do get infected.

It's true, profit is a great motivating factor. For which we have many products and services we might not otherwise have.
In your working life, did you expect to get paid for your labors? Or did you do it for free just to have something to occupy your time?
Or do you perhaps have a retirement plan wherein you invest your money? If so, do you expect to get a reward for lending that money, for example hoping to earn interest, get a dividend, or an increase in value of your investment?

Individuals and businesses take financial risk when developing a product, such as a vaccine or medication. They expect a monetary reward for taking the risk, and a reward for providing a product or service of value.

We can debate just how much of a profit is reasonable, but I don't think we should stop rewarding actions that truly benefit society.

PH CIB

These are great replies, but You all seem to say a Plasma Injection with Antibodies from someone who has recovered from Covid would help a Sick Patient with Covid, if so Why is not everyone sick with Covid getting a Plasma Injection with Antibodies from Someone who has recovered from Covid ?

I do believe strongly in Capitalism but to me this is a National Emergency, and what is the difference between paying a Recovered Covid Patient for a Plasma Donation and Paying a Corporation to develop a Vaccine, and until a Vaccine is developed would not pursuing big time recruitment of Recovered Covid Patients and Paying them well for a Plasma Donation make sense if it would save people's lives and keep the Death Rate Down ?

Vaccines usually take years to develop and years more until they are determined safe for the General Public beyond the Trials to thousands if not millions of people being vaccinated and the results...

PH CIB

"""So, the "antibodies from recovered patient" is an immediate affect and is viewed as a means of fighting current infection, while a vaccination won't fight current infection but is probably longer lasting.

See the discussion at
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-648899-1.html"""

Thanks for the excellent responses I still do not see why a National and/or Statewide effort is not being made to collect Plasma with Antibodies from Recovered Covid Patients to be used in the Treatment of all Patients with Covid as who knows how long before a vaccine and whether it will be effective or not.

I believe very strongly in Capitalism you might note I stated to pay those Recovered Covid Patients for their Plasma with Antibodies, but sometimes I think the playing field is rigged and solutions that work that don't cost a lot of money or put money in the pockets of individuals instead of corporations, that those solutions are ignored or discarded...

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

They are making an attempt to collect it. I agree this is not widely enough advertised.
https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/donate-covid-19-plasma

Both Chris Cuomo and Brooke Baldwin have been photographed giving;
if I ran CNN, I would have them talk constantly about it.
https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/cnn-brooke-baldwin-coronavirus-plasma-donation-01ec60bajybc
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chris-cuomo-blood-donation-cornavirus_n_5ea793d4c5b6dd3f9089b7b4

IDguy Loc: Idaho

What makes you think they aren’t?

repleo Loc: Boston

The FDA and The Red Cross are seeking recovered Covit patients for plasma donations. The effectiveness of the plasma is still being evaluated. https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/dlp/plasma-donations-from-recovered-covid-19-patients.html
Some of the drug companies are taking a huge financial risk by going into full production of 'promising' vaccines before they have completed trials or obtained approvals. They deserve to be compensated if they are successful. This pandemic i not going to be over until we have an effective vaccine.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

A reliable cure would go a long way .....

HamB

Wow!
Whoda thunk the best medical advice would be on a photography forum...

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Definitely!