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Jul 8, 2020 15:18:54   #
Traveller_Jeff
 
The Tamron 150-600 G2 is a lot of fun to work with. At times, in lower light situations, I find I have to crank up the ISO to minimize or eliminate motion blur. I send along a few photos on my Nikon D500 to let you see the possibilities. I'm also including one of my lunar shots.


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Jul 8, 2020 15:48:28   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Welcome to our forum!

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Jul 8, 2020 17:08:03   #
SunBeach1962 Loc: Syrscuse, NY
 
Off topic question what software are you using to watermark/sign your photos?

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Jul 8, 2020 17:15:35   #
smussler Loc: Land O Lakes, FL - Formerly Miller Place, NY
 
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!


Who did? Use quote reply.

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Jul 8, 2020 18:55:24   #
Traveller_Jeff
 
SunBeach1962 wrote:
Off topic question what software are you using to watermark/sign your photos?


As you export the file from Lightroom, the bottom right of the export frame has a watermark option to click on.

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Jul 8, 2020 19:40:20   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
SunBeach1962 wrote:
Off topic question what software are you using to watermark/sign your photos?


Use "quote reply" so we know who you are addressing.

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Jul 8, 2020 22:12:22   #
usnret Loc: Woodhull Il
 
leelefaivre wrote:
I have a Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera. I have a 55 to 250 telephoto but would like something that would get me closer. I am looking at Canon EF 100 to 400 telephoto (expensive but might pull it off) or one of the "off brand" 600 mm versions. One of the big trade offs is aperture 4.5 to 5.6 vs something like 5 to 6.3 on the longer 600 mm. How much am I loosing to go with the smaller aperture?

I wonder if going with the closer 400 mm vs the 600 mm would really get me to where I want to go. I very much like the flexibility of the zoom and consider the solution (if I want to get closer) using some sort of doubler. I gather they now (if you pay for it) have optics and coupling routines that allow full functioning.

I guess the general question is what would anybody recommend for getting up close to wildlife?
I have a Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera.... (show quote)


Part of what you ask has to do with how well you understand what the effects of different focal length lenses have on their depth of field (in focus range)

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Jul 8, 2020 22:35:10   #
coj Loc: NJ, USA
 
billnikon wrote:
The Canon 100-400 II lens is one of the sharpest zoom lenses out there. But mounted on a FF body, for me in Florida, it would not get the job done, my subjects are too far away to fill the frame.
You have choices.
Get a cropped sensor camera and mount the 100-400 II lens on it.
Get the 100-400 II lens and a Canon 1.4 teleconverter
Get a Nikon D500 and the Nikon 200-500 5.6 lens


With the Nikon add a 1.4X TC. Works beautifully with the 200 - 500 zoom. On a crop sensor you get up to a
1050mm equivalent.

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Jul 8, 2020 22:53:13   #
Neal Smith
 
leelefaivre wrote:
I have a Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera. I have a 55 to 250 telephoto but would like something that would get me closer. I am looking at Canon EF 100 to 400 telephoto (expensive but might pull it off) or one of the "off brand" 600 mm versions. One of the big trade offs is aperture 4.5 to 5.6 vs something like 5 to 6.3 on the longer 600 mm. How much am I loosing to go with the smaller aperture?

I wonder if going with the closer 400 mm vs the 600 mm would really get me to where I want to go. I very much like the flexibility of the zoom and consider the solution (if I want to get closer) using some sort of doubler. I gather they now (if you pay for it) have optics and coupling routines that allow full functioning.

I guess the general question is what would anybody recommend for getting up close to wildlife?
I have a Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera.... (show quote)


I shoot a Nikon D750. If I'm going for birds, I'm using a Tamron 150-600 G1. Even at 5.6, it's reasonably sharp. I usually use a monopod as it is a heavy lens. It is exceptionally sharp.

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Jul 9, 2020 10:44:48   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
leelefaivre wrote:
I have a Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera. I have a 55 to 250 telephoto but would like something that would get me closer. I am looking at Canon EF 100 to 400 telephoto (expensive but might pull it off) or one of the "off brand" 600 mm versions. One of the big trade offs is aperture 4.5 to 5.6 vs something like 5 to 6.3 on the longer 600 mm. How much am I loosing to go with the smaller aperture?

I wonder if going with the closer 400 mm vs the 600 mm would really get me to where I want to go. I very much like the flexibility of the zoom and consider the solution (if I want to get closer) using some sort of doubler. I gather they now (if you pay for it) have optics and coupling routines that allow full functioning.

I guess the general question is what would anybody recommend for getting up close to wildlife?
I have a Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera.... (show quote)


I use the Nikon 200-500 f/5.6 on a DX body (D500) for outdoor wildlife. It's really a very good combo.

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Jul 9, 2020 14:47:56   #
SkipM Loc: Bullhead Ciyt, AZ
 
leelefaivre wrote:
I have a Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera. I have a 55 to 250 telephoto but would like something that would get me closer. I am looking at Canon EF 100 to 400 telephoto (expensive but might pull it off) or one of the "off brand" 600 mm versions. One of the big trade offs is aperture 4.5 to 5.6 vs something like 5 to 6.3 on the longer 600 mm. How much am I loosing to go with the smaller aperture?

I wonder if going with the closer 400 mm vs the 600 mm would really get me to where I want to go. I very much like the flexibility of the zoom and consider the solution (if I want to get closer) using some sort of doubler. I gather they now (if you pay for it) have optics and coupling routines that allow full functioning.

I guess the general question is what would anybody recommend for getting up close to wildlife?
I have a Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera.... (show quote)


Have a look @ Ken Rockwell's input on the Nikon 28-300. It might carry over to Canon. Skip M.

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Jul 10, 2020 14:32:09   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
leelefaivre wrote:
I have a Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera. I have a 55 to 250 telephoto but would like something that would get me closer. I am looking at Canon EF 100 to 400 telephoto (expensive but might pull it off) or one of the "off brand" 600 mm versions. One of the big trade offs is aperture 4.5 to 5.6 vs something like 5 to 6.3 on the longer 600 mm. How much am I loosing to go with the smaller aperture?

I wonder if going with the closer 400 mm vs the 600 mm would really get me to where I want to go. I very much like the flexibility of the zoom and consider the solution (if I want to get closer) using some sort of doubler. I gather they now (if you pay for it) have optics and coupling routines that allow full functioning.

I guess the general question is what would anybody recommend for getting up close to wildlife?
I have a Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera.... (show quote)


If you're patient, Canon will soon be answering your needs with RF lenses that will directly mount to your EOS R:

- Canon has just announced an RF 100-500mm f/4.5-7.1L IS USM... This 3 lb. lens will cost $2699 initially and is supposed to be available Oct. 1. It weighs less than, but is about the same size as the existing EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM II, which costs about $500 less, but would require an adapter to use on EOS R. Sigma and Tamron each also make 100-400mm EF-mount lenses, which are smaller and considerably less expensive... $699 and $799, respectively. They both have smaller apertures than the Canon, especially the Sigma. Neither of the third party lenses come with tripod mounting ring, but there's an $129 optional one available for the Tamron. Personally I wouldn't want a 400mm lens that can't be fitted with a tripod mounting ring, so I'd never consider the Sigma. They're both pretty good, but don't have the excellent image quality of the Canon 100-400mm II.

- Canon has also announced yesterday an RF 1.4X teleconverter, which will undoubtedly pair very well with the 100-500mm... for an effective 140-700mm f/7.1-f/10 combo.

- Another new lens coming soon is the RF 600mm f/11 IS STM lens... It's super compact and lightweight, as well as very affordable at $699. However, it has a very small max aperture with f/11... and it's nowhere near the build quality of the EF 100-400mm L, and most likely the RF 100-500mm L. The RF 600mm f/11 also uses slower STM (stepper motor) focus drive, instead of the premium, high performance USM (ultrasonic) focus drive used on the L-series lenses.

- Alongside the above lenses, Canon has also announced an RF 800mm f/11 IS STM... Like the 600mm it's very compact and lightweight for a lens of this type... And at $899 it's reasonably affordable. It also has the same drawbacks as the 600mm... a slow f/11 aperture (won't be as able to blur down backgrounds as well as lenses with larger apertures)... and slower STM focus drive. Both the RF 600mm and RF 800mm are expected to be available around the end of July.

- Yes, there are the Tamron and Sigma 150-600mm too. Of the three current models, the Tamron "G2" is mid-priced at around $1500. The Sigma 150-600mm "Contemporary" is under $1000, but probably has the lowest image quality of the three. It's variable aperture also steps down at much shorter zoomed focal lengths (it is as much as 2/3 stop slower than the Canon 100-400mm, throughout their shared focal length range). The Sigma 150-600mm "Sport" lens is a more premium build quality with better sealing for dust and weather resistance, but is also considerably bigger and heavier. It's almost 6.5 lb., where the other two are around 4.5 lb. It's also usually considerably more expensive at $2000... but is currently on sale for $1700.

It's important to note that all three of these (as well as all the 100-400mm mentioned above) will require you use a lens adapter to fit them to an EOS R. The adapter will add cost (typically at least $100), as well as length and a little weight. The Canon EF lenses are known to work quite well when adapted to R-series cameras. I don't know whether or not the Tamron or Sigma lenses lose performance when adapted. I'd look into this very carefully... . Do those lenses' autofocus work as well as they do on EF mount cameras? Do their image stabilization systems work as well? Are there any other short-comings to adapting these lenses? I really don't know. You need to research this very carefully and hopefully can find feedback base upon direct experience.

The image below was made with my Canon EF 100-400mm "II", with Canon EF 1.4X "II" (older model) teleconverter, on Canon 7D Mk II camera (20MP, APS-C "crop"... your EOS R is full frame, so would have a little less "reach", but has higher resolution with 30MP). It was shot at f/8 (wide open), ISO 1600 and hand held at 1/800 shutter speed.


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Jul 11, 2020 11:33:49   #
LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773
 
Canon 100-400 L lens---Incredible build quality--stabilization incredible



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Jul 11, 2020 14:33:22   #
LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773
 
no stabilization

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Jul 11, 2020 14:45:09   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
no stabilization


Please use "quote reply" - then we will know who/what you are replying to. As it is we have no idea what you are saying has no stabilization.

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