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Jul 3, 2020 18:57:11   #
BigDen Loc: Alberta, Canada
 
PAR4DCR wrote:
There is no pill for stupid! Trump couldn't find his butt with both hands.

Don


WOW! That is a really clever response.

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Jul 3, 2020 19:11:16   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
PAR4DCR wrote:
There is no pill for stupid! Trump couldn't find his butt with both hands.

Don


Yea, successful billionaire, tv star and President. Very stupid.

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Jul 3, 2020 19:13:23   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
BigDen wrote:
You keep saying “reopening prematurely.” Can you enlighten as to exactly when “mature” would be? What would you tell all those people who cannot provide the necessities of life for their families when they beg to earn their living? How would you manage the balance?


I personally don’t have the background or cannot rely on expert advice to begin to know how to manage the balance. I certainly recognize the need for a balance, and wish the leaders of this country had found it. They did not.
I know the willy-nilly free for all with few limited restrictions and a President who downplayed the entire problem, from the start, giving stupid people false security; did not work.
The less vulnerable should have been returned to work, with tracing and tracking, in a unified, national regulated effort to minimize the risk, but still restart slowly and methodically. No doubt opening the bars, parties, and P**********l inspired no-worry (we are doing “tremendous”) approach has clearly resulted in a current disaster. At the risk of further damage to the economy, the shutdown should have been given more time.
The fact that is wasn’t; and the ongoing steadfast mentality of a President at Mt. Rushmore tonight who proclaims that the v***s has been controlled will, no doubt, result in further death and suffering that should have been avoided.

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Jul 3, 2020 19:31:58   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
BigDen wrote:
I am neither RED nor BLUE. Like you I am an independent observer. I do observe and can assure you that if you follow MSM, you don’t have a clue about what is going on. They misstate virtually everything Trump says or does. They fail to report the good things he does and the corruption of the Democrats. If things get slow, they just make things up. I used to follow MSM until I started actually listening to Trump and then listening to how it is reported. The media have a bad case of TDS and like the v***s they are spreading it to unsuspecting ......!
I am neither RED nor BLUE. Like you I am an indepe... (show quote)


Pardon me, what is MSM?

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Jul 3, 2020 19:34:48   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BigDen wrote:
You keep saying “reopening prematurely.” Can you enlighten as to exactly when “mature” would be? What would you tell all those people who cannot provide the necessities of life for their families when they beg to earn their living? How would you manage the balance?

Finally a question somebody can answer.

The original idea was that a state would be opened slowly on a downslope of new infections and hospitalizations, keeping an eye on the statistics, and keeping the infections list small enough to be traced, with patients being isolated.

For example, our Governor announced a five step process. Steps 1-3 went forward without problems. They worked hard on Cass County, with its pork-packing plant, and that county had few more infections, going from 4th to 6th on the overall list of counties. All through this time total new infections and hospital admissions continued to fall .... but those measurements went up after step 4. Originally, the idea was to reach Step 5 on July 4th with fireworks, but on July 1st the Governor announced a “Step 4.5” that would still allow for fireworks. Elkhart County - the county just East of us - has gone way up in infections, so they will stay in “Step 4” for another two weeks, and in another two weeks they will re-evaluate everything.

So, did your country Canada re-open against a stream of increasing infections??

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Jul 3, 2020 19:51:56   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
All the medical experts had a vivid picture of how re-opening prematurely would result in another surge of the v***s. Businesses, impatient people, and a misguided President, only worried about his re-e******n in terms if the economy; disregarded the medical authority and pressed to re-open. I am not a genius, but I was appalled that people thought it acceptable to mingle and mix in bars and parties, and on the beaches.
The progress we made in flattening out the v***s has now been lost—and we start over.
This country is clueless.
All the medical experts had a vivid picture of how... (show quote)


A certain percentage of it is dumb as rocks.

The experts saw this coming many years ago. Then they were silenced for awhile during the time they should have been running the show with FULL support and no interference.

130,000+ dead? Criminal! Truck Fump. And to think I was an ‘R’ for 36 years...

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Jul 3, 2020 20:15:57   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
burkphoto wrote:
A certain percentage of it is dumb as rocks.

The experts saw this coming many years ago. Then they were silenced for awhile during the time they should have been running the show with FULL support and no interference.

130,000+ dead? Criminal! Truck Fump. And to think I was an ‘R’ for 36 years...


This is truly a sad time for this country.
I worry about our children and grandchildren.

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Jul 3, 2020 20:24:40   #
rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
All the medical experts had a vivid picture of how re-opening prematurely would result in another surge of the v***s. Businesses, impatient people, and a misguided President, only worried about his re-e******n in terms if the economy; disregarded the medical authority and pressed to re-open. I am not a genius, but I was appalled that people thought it acceptable to mingle and mix in bars and parties, and on the beaches.
The progress we made in flattening out the v***s has now been lost—and we start over.
This country is clueless.
All the medical experts had a vivid picture of how... (show quote)


And, how about the "misguided", Dementia of the challenger, eh ? Wasn't he one of those who didn't want to restrict travel from China?

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Jul 3, 2020 20:30:52   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
rfmaude41 wrote:
And, how about the "misguided", Dementia of the challenger, eh ? Wasn't he one of those who didn't want to restrict travel from China?

Mr. Trump should have truly closed our borders to all countries at that same moment. Anyone let back in the country should have been put in quarantine for two weeks - yes a few people would have missed some work, but it would not have been as disruptive as what did happen.

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Jul 3, 2020 20:44:08   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
rfmaude41 wrote:
And, how about the "misguided", Dementia of the challenger, eh ? Wasn't he one of those who didn't want to restrict travel from China?



What difference does what Biden said mean now?
At least he outlined a plan, good or bad, last week; while the President only said the v***s was being controlled.
Be serious, please. Trump has screwed this up.

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Jul 3, 2020 21:13:01   #
BigDen Loc: Alberta, Canada
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
What difference does what Biden said mean now?
At least he outlined a plan, good or bad, last week; while the President only said the v***s was being controlled.
Be serious, please. Trump has screwed this up.


If you were watching Biden you would know that he spouted a lot of platitudes and any real action in his plan is to do exactly as Trump has done. Infections are still passed one individual to another. No politician has the ability to ensure there is no contact. The v***s is being controlled much like a forest fire. With a forest fire you slow it’s advance and failing rain, you try to turn it back on itself using various tools at your disposal. It is still going to break through in various spots so you then tackle those areas. You don’t just walk in and extinguish the whole fire in one swoop. You have still controlled the fire.

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Jul 3, 2020 21:25:16   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BigDen wrote:
If you were watching Biden you would know that he spouted a lot of platitudes and any real action in his plan is to do exactly as Trump has done. Infections are still passed one individual to another. No politician has the ability to ensure there is no contact. The v***s is being controlled much like a forest fire. With a forest fire you slow it’s advance and failing rain, you try to turn it back on itself using various tools at your disposal. It is still going to break through in various spots so you then tackle those areas. You don’t just walk in and extinguish the whole fire in one swoop. You have still controlled the fire.
If you were watching Biden you would know that he ... (show quote)


So how would you tackle those areas?
Is that how Canada did it?

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Jul 3, 2020 21:37:35   #
PH CIB
 
David Martin wrote:
Actually it's' the number of positive tests that are increasing by thousands every day.
Implying that infections are increasing. No doubt they are, but to what extent?
Turns out, unfortunately, that the CDC and at least several of the states, do not separate positive v***s tests vs. positive antibody tests. Rather, they are lumped together into a single tally. Irresponsible to say the least, if not downright misleading, especially on the part of the "esteemed" CDC.

In light of this, I posted a question on our state's Department of Health facebook page asking how they count their positive tests, and my post was deleted.
Actually it's' the number of positive tests that a... (show quote)


Once again an intelligent and thought provoking post, I am guessing positive V***s Test would indicate V***s and Antibodies in the Blood indicating an infected person, where a positive Antibody Test would indicate Antibodies but no V***s in the Blood indicating a Recovered Person....The President and Congress and the CDC should have taken the lead in making sure Businesses and Citizens required wearing N95 masks and using hand sanitizer which we should have had stockpiled anticipating a P******c....Also Social Distancing and No Large Gatherings, if our Country's Businesses and our Country's People had worked together with the Government leading us there might not even had been a need for any shut down, alleviating most of the economic Hardship Businesses and Laid Off Employees Suffered....Also taking extra precautions for Folks in Nursing Homes and At Risk Folks living in their own Homes taking Extra Precautions....

This is easy to say as an Armchair Quarterback, but these Highly Paid and Supposedly Highly Intelligent Politicians, Doctors, Scientists and Bureaucrats have known about a possible P******c...If I were in a Business and these were my Employees, I would fire Trump, the Democrats and Republicans in Congress, F***i, the CDC, the NIH, the WHO, the Chinese Government, and anyone else who totally failed and was and is responsible for this P******c...

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Jul 3, 2020 21:51:24   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
BigDen wrote:
If you were watching Biden you would know that he spouted a lot of platitudes and any real action in his plan is to do exactly as Trump has done. Infections are still passed one individual to another. No politician has the ability to ensure there is no contact. The v***s is being controlled much like a forest fire. With a forest fire you slow it’s advance and failing rain, you try to turn it back on itself using various tools at your disposal. It is still going to break through in various spots so you then tackle those areas. You don’t just walk in and extinguish the whole fire in one swoop. You have still controlled the fire.
If you were watching Biden you would know that he ... (show quote)


I watched Biden, and he said a lot more than you heard; certainly a lot more than this phony President Trump has said. Lights up your ass, drinking disinfectant, and a "miracle" that it might go away. Easter miracle? Good god, how insulting. And tonight he spreads the v***s further. The man is a walking disaster.

You are not an independent at all, only pretend to be to make yourself feel good.

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Jul 3, 2020 21:58:17   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
berchman wrote:
What the commenters have left out is what must be done and has not been done and seems *will* not be done and that is massive testing and contact tracing. This is not an individual responsibility; it is a governmental responsibility


Absolutely! It worked for many epidemics and p******cs past.

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