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Sep 22, 2012 11:02:41   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
It is clear that you do not understand what the writer is saying. Your assumptions are wrong. That isn't what any writer here has been saying.



rready wrote:
Interesting comments...smack of jealiousy and ignorance.
I assume that writer means the following:

a) Don't invest in government bonds, state or federal because there are tax advantages....better not to support government programs thru bond purchases than to take tax advantages passed by both dems and rep


b) Don't invest in stocks and bonds because tax laws allow for taxes lower than u like

c) don't pay more in taxes than u have to because some idiot will find way to criticize u...

d) paying more in taxes gives the government the ability to spend it wisely..like we know it does

e) be more like biden and give small amounts to charity
Interesting comments...smack of jealiousy and igno... (show quote)

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Sep 22, 2012 11:07:58   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Richard94611 wrote:
What is the point of this remark ? Some kind of mean-spirited nya-nya-nya of the sort you find on an elementary school playground. We are slowly recovering from the mess caused by W and his cronies and Wall Street. Remember, we have a huge economy -- much bigger than most countries in the world. We'll do just fine. California leads the world in high tech, the entertainment industry, and a lot of other things. In terms of combating global warming and helping save the sorry butt of others this way, we are the country's best. I don't have to make apologies for California. We are progressing, and we will do just fine.

Just how are things going out in California these days? That is precisely why there are others of us who do want to see him as our next president.
What is the point of this remark ? Some kind of m... (show quote)
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Oh really?...

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Directors of the State Budget Crisis Task Force said their researchers had found a lot of other debts that did not turn up in California’s official tally. Much of it involved irrevocable promises to provide pensions to public workers, health care for retirees, the cost of delayed highway maintenance and an estimated $40 billion bill to bring drinking water up to federal standards.

They also pointed out many of the same unpaid bills from previous years that the governor had brought to light, like $8 billion in delayed payments to schools and community colleges, and $250 million that was raided from a fund dedicated to transportation and treated as revenue.

The task force estimated that the burden of debt totaled at least $167 billion and as much as $335 billion. Its members warned that the off-the-books debts tended to grow over time, so that even if Mr. Brown should succeed in pushing through his tax increase, gaining an additional $50 billion over the next seven years, the wall of debt would still be there, casting its shadow over the state.
Directors of the State Budget Crisis Task Force sa... (show quote)


Besides the lies and distortions of a California recovery that will somehow see the state overcome its insurmountable debt, it is disingenuous to deny the role played by the democrats in the housing crisis... They were not only equal partners in creating the mess but it can easily be argued that they were the impetus behind our current financial woes...

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Sep 22, 2012 11:08:57   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Obama donated $172,000

What is interesting about this week is that the Middle East is burning and the president and his administration have spent 9 days lying about what is actually going on and what transpired, yet the national media wants to focus on Romney's taxes and the fact that he paid more than he had to after his comments during the republican debates.... This is the most willful withholding of the news that I have ever in my life seen by the national media... They are trying to protect this president and aid in his not having to acknowledge and deal with his foreign policy failure. What is worse is that he has no policy or plan to correct the situation as he loses control over our relationship with several important countries in very important areas of the world... It is shameful and if there was ever a doubt about media bias this last week has exposed it for any who will simply open their eyes...
Obama donated $172,000 br br What is interesting ... (show quote)


In case you do not read the papers or get any news down there in Florida = the Middle east has been burning since - well since we invaded 15 yrs ago?

In case you haven't understood the world does not bow down to the US and do everything we want.

In case you need help remembering Mitt is the guy who without much thought is willing to liquify Iran if only to make a point and perhaps a side play on oil futures.......

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Sep 22, 2012 11:13:43   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
I have confidence that the State of California will work through these financial difficulties and prosper. I am very happy to live in California. If I had my choices of where to live, I would pick the San Francisco Bay Area (where I live) as my first choice. Otherwise I would choose Bali, Fiji, or Paris. Worry about your own state, and its affairs.

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Sep 22, 2012 11:14:50   #
bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 
AARP is an Commission paid insurance agency. That's all they are. They like Obame-O and are exempt from Obama care. WHY?

Isn't strange, every one who PUSHES ObamaCare is EXEMPT from it? WHY?

So more than likely if you push for it, YOU'RE exempt from it. WHY?

If it's so good WHY are there over 12000 organizations exempt from it.

Why are all government agencies, congress, senate, the POTUS exempt.

If it's good for everybody than why isn't everybody on it?

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Sep 22, 2012 11:16:42   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
docrob wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
Obama donated $172,000

What is interesting about this week is that the Middle East is burning and the president and his administration have spent 9 days lying about what is actually going on and what transpired, yet the national media wants to focus on Romney's taxes and the fact that he paid more than he had to after his comments during the republican debates.... This is the most willful withholding of the news that I have ever in my life seen by the national media... They are trying to protect this president and aid in his not having to acknowledge and deal with his foreign policy failure. What is worse is that he has no policy or plan to correct the situation as he loses control over our relationship with several important countries in very important areas of the world... It is shameful and if there was ever a doubt about media bias this last week has exposed it for any who will simply open their eyes...
Obama donated $172,000 br br What is interesting ... (show quote)


In case you do not read the papers or get any news down there in Florida = the Middle east has been burning since - well since we invaded 15 yrs ago?

In case you haven't understood the world does not bow down to the US and do everything we want.

In case you need help remembering Mitt is the guy who without much thought is willing to liquify Iran if only to make a point and perhaps a side play on oil futures.......
quote=Blurryeyed Obama donated $172,000 br br Wh... (show quote)


Correction: The Middle East has been burning for many decades -- like most of my life, and I am 74. Its a war here and a war there, and a bombing here and a bombing there.

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Sep 22, 2012 11:25:16   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
What are you talking about ? What do you mean by "exempt from it" ? Please explain to the rest of us what you are saying.

I like Obamacare very much. I have senior advantage at Kaiser, and it is wonderful !



bvm wrote:
AARP is an Commission paid insurance agency. That's all they are. They like Obame-O and are exempt from Obama care. WHY?

Isn't strange, every one who PUSHES ObamaCare is EXEMPT from it? WHY?

So more than likely if you push for it, YOU'RE exempt from it. WHY?

If it's so good WHY are there over 12000 organizations exempt from it.

Why are all government agencies, congress, senate, the POTUS exempt.

If it's good for everybody than why isn't everybody on it?

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Sep 22, 2012 11:28:26   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
docrob wrote:


In case you do not read the papers or get any news down there in Florida = the Middle east has been burning since - well since we invaded 15 yrs ago?

In case you haven't understood the world does not bow down to the US and do everything we want.

In case you need help remembering Mitt is the guy who without much thought is willing to liquify Iran if only to make a point and perhaps a side play on oil futures.......


Maybe you suffer from short term memory loss, over the last year the press has been reporting and the president has been glowing about the decimation of Al Queda and how much safer we have become... The president has used his Cairo speech as his foreign policy and outreach to that part of the world and has done much like everything else has not displayed much interest or effort in foreign policy.... Just a few short weeks ago the president was using the slogan "Bin Laden is Dead" as an exclamation point as to his foreign policy success... Now we see a different picture quickly developing. We see the Muslim world erupting in a manner that we have never seen before, we see them sending the direct message to this president that there are 1.5 billion Bin Laden's all sharing the same goal of death to America.... Do you not think that this president spiking the football as he has, using the Bin Laden murder as a campaign slogan has not added fuel to the fire... He has accomplished nothing and his naivete and lack of engagement has set us back years in our intelligence gathering capabilities and our ability to effectively engage... His foreign policies to this part of the world were simply based on three simple things.... His speech, his constant use of drones in several different countries, and US foreign aid, as if he could actually purchase friends and allegiance in that part of the world... He has burned intelligence partners for his own standing and prestige in the eyes of his followers and the press in this country again setting our country and our national security back...

Maybe it is you who is not paying attention...

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Sep 22, 2012 11:34:43   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
docrob wrote:


In case you do not read the papers or get any news down there in Florida = the Middle east has been burning since - well since we invaded 15 yrs ago?

In case you haven't understood the world does not bow down to the US and do everything we want.

In case you need help remembering Mitt is the guy who without much thought is willing to liquify Iran if only to make a point and perhaps a side play on oil futures.......


Maybe you suffer from short term memory loss, over the last year the press has been reporting and the president has been glowing about the decimation of Al Queda and how much safer we have become... The president has used his Cairo speech as his foreign policy and outreach to that part of the world and has done much like everything else has not displayed much interest or effort in foreign policy.... Just a few short weeks ago the president was using the slogan "Bin Laden is Dead" as an exclamation point as to his foreign policy success... Now we see a different picture quickly developing. We see the Muslim world erupting in a manner that we have never seen before, we see them sending the direct message to this president that there are 1.5 billion Bin Laden's all sharing the same goal of death to America.... Do you not think that this president spiking the football as he has, using the Bin Laden murder as a campaign slogan has not added fuel to the fire... He has accomplished nothing and his naivete and lack of engagement has set us back years in our intelligence gathering capabilities and our ability to effectively engage... His foreign policies to this part of the world were simply based on three simple things.... His speech, his constant use of drones in several different countries, and US foreign aid, as if he could actually purchase friends and allegiance in that part of the world... He has burned intelligence partners for his own standing and prestige in the eyes of his followers and the press in this country again setting our country and our national security back...

Maybe it is you who is not paying attention...
quote=docrob br br In case you do not read the ... (show quote)


dude thoughtful people the world over have been telling us for years that the way to win friends and influence people is not to bomb them or bribe them which has been our primary foriegn policy since Truman.

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Sep 22, 2012 11:36:11   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
You have a better solution to the problems in the Middle East ? Tell us what this would be ? The problems in the Middle East are really insoluble until the countries in the Middle East realize (which they will not) that their two biggest enemies are poverty and lack of education, not people burning copies of the Koran. When 56% of the women in one of the countries (I think it is Egypt) are kept ignorant by the system AND CANNOT EVEN READ, what hope do these people have ?



Blurryeyed wrote:
docrob wrote:


In case you do not read the papers or get any news down there in Florida = the Middle east has been burning since - well since we invaded 15 yrs ago?

In case you haven't understood the world does not bow down to the US and do everything we want.

In case you need help remembering Mitt is the guy who without much thought is willing to liquify Iran if only to make a point and perhaps a side play on oil futures.......


Maybe you suffer from short term memory loss, over the last year the press has been reporting and the president has been glowing about the decimation of Al Queda and how much safer we have become... The president has used his Cairo speech as his foreign policy and outreach to that part of the world and has done much like everything else has not displayed much interest or effort in foreign policy.... Just a few short weeks ago the president was using the slogan "Bin Laden is Dead" as an exclamation point as to his foreign policy success... Now we see a different picture quickly developing. We see the Muslim world erupting in a manner that we have never seen before, we see them sending the direct message to this president that there are 1.5 billion Bin Laden's all sharing the same goal of death to America.... Do you not think that this president spiking the football as he has, using the Bin Laden murder as a campaign slogan has not added fuel to the fire... He has accomplished nothing and his naivete and lack of engagement has set us back years in our intelligence gathering capabilities and our ability to effectively engage... His foreign policies to this part of the world were simply based on three simple things.... His speech, his constant use of drones in several different countries, and US foreign aid, as if he could actually purchase friends and allegiance in that part of the world... He has burned intelligence partners for his own standing and prestige in the eyes of his followers and the press in this country again setting our country and our national security back...

Maybe it is you who is not paying attention...
quote=docrob br br In case you do not read the ... (show quote)

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Sep 22, 2012 11:38:23   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Richard94611 wrote:
I have confidence that the State of California will work through these financial difficulties and prosper. I am very happy to live in California. If I had my choices of where to live, I would pick the San Francisco Bay Area (where I live) as my first choice. Otherwise I would choose Bali, Fiji, or Paris. Worry about your own state, and its affairs.


That would be nice but we all know that California is banking on a federal bailout, so no your problems are not as local as you would like us to believe, just what do you think the president means when he says that the federal government needs to hire more teachers, firemen, and police? He is saying that because of the local and state government's irresponsible budgeting and fiscal performance and the fact that their operating budgets are more and more consumed by their union contracts and pension funds that it is now up to the federal government to subsidize local and state governments, no matter that places like California went bat s**t crazy and without any fiscal restraint spent way beyond their means... Most of the rest of America does not feel an obligation to the flower child state... Hopefully your problems will remain your problems and not forced upon the rest of us..

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Sep 22, 2012 11:45:00   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
And what state do you live in ?



Blurryeyed wrote:
Richard94611 wrote:
I have confidence that the State of California will work through these financial difficulties and prosper. I am very happy to live in California. If I had my choices of where to live, I would pick the San Francisco Bay Area (where I live) as my first choice. Otherwise I would choose Bali, Fiji, or Paris. Worry about your own state, and its affairs.


That would be nice but we all know that California is banking on a federal bailout, so no your problems are not as local as you would like us to believe, just what do you think the president means when he says that the federal government needs to hire more teachers, firemen, and police? He is saying that because of the local and state government's irresponsible budgeting and fiscal performance and the fact that their operating budgets are more and more consumed by their union contracts and pension funds that it is now up to the federal government to subsidize local and state governments, no matter that places like California went bat s**t crazy and without any fiscal restraint spent way beyond their means... Most of the rest of America does not feel an obligation to the flower child state... Hopefully your problems will remain your problems and not forced upon the rest of us..
quote=Richard94611 I have confidence that the Sta... (show quote)

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Sep 22, 2012 11:47:11   #
jvance Loc: Granbury, Texas
 
Kit Lens wrote:
This is the problem. He's the one that said anyone who pays more taxes than he owes shouldn't be President and now I agree with him.
But here is the other issue. You see when you pay too much on your taxes you can amend them anytime in the next three years. So he's released his taxes and now he can simply amend them and get the rest of his deduction.
It goes to show that he's once again manipulating the system to come up with the answer he likes.
Yes he gave the money to charity (like the Morman church needs more money) but if he took the deduction he would have paid 9% taxes.
Your payroll taxes are more than that. Even Mitt's 47%'rs who pay no income tax pay more than 9% in payroll taxes.
Guess the problem I have with it is that it speaks to his dishonesty.
This is the problem. He's the one that said anyon... (show quote)


Why don't you get off your crap Kit,it make's you look rather fanaticly stupid. of course it might not be look don't cha think.

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Sep 22, 2012 11:47:56   #
DougW Loc: SoCal
 
Richard94611 wrote:
I have confidence that the State of California will work through these financial difficulties and prosper. I am very happy to live in California. If I had my choices of where to live, I would pick the San Francisco Bay Area (where I live) as my first choice. Otherwise I would choose Bali, Fiji, or Paris. Worry about your own state, and its affairs.


Business regulated and taxed till they leave the state. Joblessness at 16% +. Gov Moonbeam back, limousine liberals representing us in congress,
School system at the bottom of the pile etc. etc. etc. I'm so happy with California I could just sh*t.

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Sep 22, 2012 11:48:24   #
AUminer Loc: Brandon, Ms
 
H.Car insurance is a state mandated item and the states are given the power to decide those issues for tghemselves. You don't have to any home insurance unless you are financing a home and if you think that the AHA provdes free insurance, you are greatly mistaken. YOU will only get it free if you are under some arbetrary financial line the HHR set and guess what. The rest of us are paying for it just like we are now in higher Dr. and hospital cost. If you do not think the insurance companies are going to raise rates to cover the increased scope of the coverage which the gov,t is putting on them, then you have no more business sense than Harry Reid and Nancy Peloise or, for that matter, Pres. Obama.
sueyeisert wrote:
jkaye65 wrote:
dragonfist wrote:
jkaye65 said, "Personally, I think the idea that the government can mandate you buy a product is illegal. This is America. We are free to do what we want. Mandates will lead to socialism. And Barry is just the guy you want if you want socialism."
Is automobile liability insurance namdated in your state? It is in mine and I am glad of it. Otherwise when you get clobbered by an errant driver you have got one big problem.
I see no problem in letting folks go without medical insurance in they are willing to foot the bill when they get injured or sick. As it is right now we all foot the bill anyway as guess who gets charged higher rates to pay for the guy without insurance. It is passed on to your insurance company through higher doctor and hospital fees and then to you in the form of higher insurance rates.
jkaye65 said, "Personally, I think the idea t... (show quote)


I live in California and automobile insurance is not mandated in this state. My aunt does not have a car or a driver's license so she is not required to buy any automobile insurance. It is her choice, not the governments.

I did say that maybe something is needed for medical care. But to force people to buy the product put out by Obama is most likely illegal. Four supreme court justices felt it is totally illegal (a fifth justice jumped ship).
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If you don't have health ins and go to the hospital who pays??a very fine hospital in NYC-St. Vincent's closed because it was inundated with the uninsured.
There are many things you have to buy. Car insurance homeowners insurance if you need a mortgage.
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