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Jul 2, 2020 10:09:07   #
senior techie Loc: Boca Raton Fl
 
1Feathercrest wrote:
My advice to you is to learn, not lose correct grammar.


Pardon me?

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Jul 2, 2020 10:18:41   #
Canisdirus
 
senior techie wrote:
I really want a point and shoot with a fixed lens. I am going to try a number of suggested cameras before I purchase anything. My local camera shop is helping me with my selection. Thank you for your thoughts and advise. I will also rent for a week before I purchase. I live in FL, lots of time on my hands.


I'm a lens guy so I haven't looked at the Leica fixed camera...until just now.
Holy smokes...47mp sensor? 20FPS?

Spend the extra dough...wow.

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Jul 2, 2020 10:28:53   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Kick the tires!

So...there is lots of good advice and food for thought in this thread. When selecting a camera, especially one with a hefty price tag, and again especially if weight and handling is an important issue, PLEASE consider the ergonomics- how the camera FEELS and operates in your hand, how accessible are the controls and the viewfinder, etc?

I love Leica gear, it has a special place in my heart! My old M-3 ad three lenses survived 2 tours in Vietnam- I survived too! The only disadvantage I sometimes find with Leica gear, especially the more compact models is the control is too small for my hands, Of course, that is unique to ME- I have very large hands. So...when I went to work for a newspaper I opted for the Nikon gear (the old "F models) because the cameras were more chunkey, for lack of a better word, the controls were larger and more robust for shooting sports, riots, political rallies, and other fast-moving events.

OK- My assistant INSISTS that I don't set up support equipment on locations because I over-tighten everything and strip out all the hardware!

I'm sure the OP's hands are more delicate and dexterous than mine but my suggestion goes to the controls, the size and shape of the camera body and lenses, the accessibility to the viewfinder if eyeglasses are worn and all the stuff that makes the camera easy to handle and support when hand-held.

Nowadays, with most camera retail business being conducted online or over the telephone, in-person-first hand demonstrations are rare. If you are fortunate enough to have a well-stocked dealer that you can access, that is a great advantage.

You can read specifications, the reviews, do the mathematics and the geometry, but "touchy-feely" is the best way to assess a camera, cameral/lens combinations and, tripods and just about anything that is onboard your camera or anything you attach your camera to, as to handling! Arrangi for a rental is another good alternative.

It's almost like trying on shoes- if they don't fit right away, don't buy 'em! If you need to seriously break them in, they will break in your feet first!

There is something to be said about a test drive and kick the tires!

PS- All of the cameras mentioned in this thread are of good quality, have fine optics, and up-to-date technology- no lemons in the lineup!

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Jul 2, 2020 10:41:53   #
senior techie Loc: Boca Raton Fl
 
Canisdirus wrote:
I'm a lens guy so I haven't looked at the Leica fixed camera...until just now.
Holy smokes...47mp sensor? 20FPS?

Spend the extra dough...wow.


Yup, the camera has its down side, not many, but the positives are amazing. I called and checked with the local funeral parlor, there are no pockets in any shroud.

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Jul 2, 2020 10:55:28   #
senior techie Loc: Boca Raton Fl
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Kick the tires!

So...there is lots of good advice and food for thought in this thread. When selecting a camera, especially one with a hefty price tag, and again especially if weight and handling is an important issue, PLEASE consider the ergonomics- how the camera FEELS and operates in your hand, how accessible are the controls and the viewfinder, etc?

I love Leica gear, it has a special place in my heart! My old M-3 ad three lenses survived 2 tours in Vietnam- I survived too! The only disadvantage I sometimes find with Leica gear, especially the more compact models is the control is too small for my hands, Of course, that is unique to ME- I have very large hands. So...when I went to work for a newspaper I opted for the Nikon gear (the old "F models) because the cameras were more chunkey, for lack of a better word, the controls were larger and more robust for shooting sports, riots, political rallies, and other fast-moving events.

OK- My assistant INSISTS that I don't set up support equipment on locations because I over-tighten everything and strip out all the hardware!

I'm sure the OP's hands are more delicate and dexterous than mine but my suggestion goes to the controls, the size and shape of the camera body and lenses, the accessibility to the viewfinder if eyeglasses are worn and all the stuff that makes the camera easy to handle and support when hand-held.

Nowadays, with most camera retail business being conducted online or over the telephone, in-person-first hand demonstrations are rare. If you are fortunate enough to have a well-stocked dealer that you can access, that is a great advantage.

You can read specifications, the reviews, do the mathematics and the geometry, but "touchy-feely" is the best way to assess a camera, cameral/lens combinations and, tripods and just about anything that is onboard your camera or anything you attach your camera to, as to handling! Arrangi for a rental is another good alternative.

It's almost like trying on shoes- if they don't fit right away, don't buy 'em! If you need to seriously break them in, they will break in your feet first!

There is something to be said about a test drive and kick the tires!

PS- All of the cameras mentioned in this thread are of good quality, have fine optics, and up-to-date technology- no lemons in the lineup!
Kick the tires! br br So...there is lots of good ... (show quote)


I love your POV, more in line with what I need to determine. On the bells and whistles side I know what I am looking for, it's the intangibles that I need to sort out. Between my local dealer and then renting for a week I will be fairly certain to make the right choice. Luckily at 73 I have no arthritic problems with my hands and at 5'3" (and shrinking) my hands are the appropriate size. Thanks.

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Jul 2, 2020 13:17:04   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
senior techie wrote:
I really want a point and shoot with a fixed lens. I am going to try a number of suggested cameras before I purchase anything. My local camera shop is helping me with my selection. Thank you for your thoughts and advise. I will also rent for a week before I purchase. I live in FL, lots of time on my hands.


It is good to hear that you are taking your time and will get not only what you want but what you need. Have fun shooting.

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Jul 2, 2020 14:07:34   #
Canisdirus
 
senior techie wrote:
Yup, the camera has its down side, not many, but the positives are amazing. I called and checked with the local funeral parlor, there are no pockets in any shroud.


Darn tootin' ... you only live once...

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Jul 2, 2020 14:17:45   #
senior techie Loc: Boca Raton Fl
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Darn tootin' ... you only live once...


and right now that is quite enough!!!

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Jul 2, 2020 14:39:24   #
Canisdirus
 
senior techie wrote:
and right now that is quite enough!!!


I've been hanging in with the old Sony A-Mount system for a long time now...but am about to invest 10k or so in the E-mount.

For the very same reason...no point in waiting. Enjoy it while we can.

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Jul 2, 2020 15:40:03   #
senior techie Loc: Boca Raton Fl
 
Canisdirus wrote:
I've been hanging in with the old Sony A-Mount system for a long time now...but am about to invest 10k or so in the E-mount.

For the very same reason...no point in waiting. Enjoy it while we can.


Make me happy when someone spends their time here with a smile. Enjoy.

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Jul 2, 2020 20:49:58   #
rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
 
ORpilot wrote:
The Leica's are the worlds best. You can't go wrong within of them.


Not necessarily, how about Linhof, and several other of the other larger format manufacturers, they put ANYTHING in 35mm "to shame", eh?

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Jul 3, 2020 06:26:51   #
David Taylor
 
TriX wrote:
Let me suggest you consider a Fuji system. The weight will be half or less than what you are carrying and except for those situations where you need ISOs above 6400, I doubt you can see the difference. Their controls are super simple and intuitive and Fuji lenses are easily the equal of Nikon’s best. Start with an X-T2,3 or 4 (whatever fits your budget) and a few of their quality lenses, and you will be carrying a 2-1/2 pound camera/lens instead of 5-6, and your other lenses will be 1/2 to 2/3 the weight of what you are carrying now with no visible loss of performance. I have a Canon FF system and a stack of L series lenses, but more and more, I’m picking up the Fuji.
I don’t think I can bring myself to sell the Canon system, but all my spare future $ is going into Fuji glass.
Let me suggest you consider a Fuji system. The wei... (show quote)



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Jul 3, 2020 06:33:03   #
David Taylor
 
DAN Phillips wrote:
GO WITH NIKON; YOU CAN'T GO WRONG!


You spelled Fujifilm wrong...

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Jul 3, 2020 10:26:37   #
sr71 Loc: In Col. Juan Seguin Land
 
David Taylor wrote:
You spelled Fujifilm wrong...


"So?"

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Jul 3, 2020 10:40:23   #
David Taylor
 
sr71 wrote:
"So?"


He spelled it "Nikon"...

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