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Jun 16, 2020 09:06:48   #
Streets Loc: Euless, TX.
 
That is the sound that Boeing stock is currently making as it continues its rebound. I hope that many of you bought this stock when it was under a hundred bucks like I did. I feel that there is still time to profit on this.

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Jun 16, 2020 09:52:07   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Are you done patting yourself on the back now or is there something else we should know? 😉😉

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Jun 16, 2020 10:26:01   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Streets wrote:
That is the sound that Boeing stock is currently making as it continues its rebound. I hope that many of you bought this stock when it was under a hundred bucks like I did. I feel that there is still time to profit on this.

Their stock may be up; their management still has problems.

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Jun 16, 2020 21:38:42   #
Streets Loc: Euless, TX.
 
gvarner wrote:
Are you done patting yourself on the back now or is there something else we should know? 😉😉


Yep, BA went up again today: BOING!

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Jun 17, 2020 06:59:31   #
John N Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK
 
737's aren't up.

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Jun 17, 2020 07:27:58   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Streets wrote:
That is the sound that Boeing stock is currently making as it continues its rebound. I hope that many of you bought this stock when it was under a hundred bucks like I did. I feel that there is still time to profit on this.


It's always good to make money. About 12 years ago my brother told me about a company called Netflix. I was the Pharmaceutical Analyst for my firm's Wealth Management division. Now retired. I checked to see if we were looking at that stock. We were not. I bought it. During the first year, I bought more. Still own it.

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Jun 17, 2020 08:22:18   #
Streets Loc: Euless, TX.
 
John N wrote:
737's aren't up.


Many 737's are up. The Max 80 should never been grounded. Two Max 80's crashed because the cockpit crews were not problem solvers nor even fair pilots. In both cases, the electric stab trim could have been turned off with the switch that every pilot of the 737 series pilot knows about. I worked at the American Airlines Flight Academy for 31 years as a flight simulator engineering expert so I know this airplane very well.

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Jun 17, 2020 08:35:40   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
Streets wrote:
Many 737's are up. The Max 80 should never been grounded. Two Max 80's crashed because the cockpit crews were not problem solvers nor even fair pilots. In both cases, the electric stab trim could have been turned off with the switch that every pilot of the 737 series pilot knows about. I worked at the American Airlines Flight Academy for 31 years as a flight simulator engineering expert so I know this airplane very well.


I talked to a good friend of mine who is a pilot for United on this very subject... he said the very same thing as you. It was lack of training and something to do with Southwest Airlines insistence ( they were promising a huge order if this was answered ) that the layout of the cockpit remain the same as before, rather than a whole new more modern layout. His thought, having been trained on many different planes as new assignments come up, it created a false sense of familiarity between the old and new planes when many changes really took place- especially for countries and smaller airlines training pilots and the cost involved. They cut corners in training, people died... they blamed a plane they weren't qualified to fly so no one would blame them.

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Jun 17, 2020 11:58:59   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
gvarner wrote:
Are you done patting yourself on the back now or is there something else we should know? 😉😉


Didn't buy any did you?


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Jun 17, 2020 15:56:23   #
Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio
 
You have to remember there were more problems that surfaced after really looking into that aircraft, than just that trim turn off problem, plus they should not have just relied on one sensor, they should have had two to cross reference as a back up. I believe there was more wrong than just that one thing, with the MAX.

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Jun 17, 2020 17:34:18   #
redlegfrog
 
John N wrote:
737's aren't up.


There is always one! :-)

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Jun 17, 2020 17:59:58   #
George II Loc: Fayetteville, Georgia
 
Streets wrote:
Many 737's are up. The Max 80 should never been grounded. Two Max 80's crashed because the cockpit crews were not problem solvers nor even fair pilots. In both cases, the electric stab trim could have been turned off with the switch that every pilot of the 737 series pilot knows about. I worked at the American Airlines Flight Academy for 31 years as a flight simulator engineering expert so I know this airplane very well.


And how many 737’s did American Airlines own / fly?..”just askin”
“G”

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Jun 17, 2020 19:15:17   #
srscary Loc: Cary, NC
 
This article deep dives into the design flaws (approach).

https://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/aviation/how-the-boeing-737-max-disaster-looks-to-a-software-developer

I am not a pilot. I have been a SW engineer for 40 years.

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Jun 17, 2020 23:56:11   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
srscary wrote:
This article deep dives into the design flaws (approach).

https://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/aviation/how-the-boeing-737-max-disaster-looks-to-a-software-developer

I am not a pilot. I have been a SW engineer for 40 years.

I am retired SW Engineer.

As usual, the “IEEE Spectrum” got it right.

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Jun 18, 2020 10:16:43   #
Streets Loc: Euless, TX.
 
George II wrote:
And how many 737’s did American Airlines own / fly?..”just askin”
“G”


I have been retired since 1996 and have no idea how many 727 variations that A.A. owns but the number has to be in the hundreds. It replaced the MD80's as the smallest airplane in the A.A. fleet. I'm sure that you can find a more accurate count. My only work on the 727 simulator was the one that we built using a 707-300 cockpit shell and motion base along with the computer, linkage and interface units. This was done for Southwest Airlines and kept at the A.A. facility. It was Southwest's first simulator. At that time, American had zero 727 aircraft.

As an aside, Southwest's chief pilot was Raul Cabeza who gained fame by flying a Cubana Airline flight destined for South America to Miami. Yes, Raul's family was aboard that flight. I'm not sure but I would bet that some of the other passengers remained in Miami as well.

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