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Jun 15, 2020 11:54:34   #
Rich475 Loc: North of San Francsico
 
blacks2 wrote:
Excellent.


Thank you for the nice comment blacks2. You should come over to Crissy with your camera . . . it would be great to have a real photograph take some photos.

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Jun 15, 2020 11:57:11   #
Rich475 Loc: North of San Francsico
 
Nalu wrote:
That looks like a blast.


Thanks Nalu. I think you're right. The sport is converting a lot of surfers, windsurfers and kiters.

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Jun 15, 2020 16:37:55   #
JeffDavidson Loc: Originally Detroit Now Los Angeles
 
Nice action shots.

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Jun 15, 2020 17:51:05   #
OhD Loc: West Richland, WA
 
Kites will always be faster simply because the wind speed increases with distance from a boundary. These wings are nice, though, because there isn't a lot of string to deal with, tangle, or snag on someone's mast.

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Jun 15, 2020 21:07:01   #
Rich475 Loc: North of San Francsico
 
JeffDavidson wrote:
Nice action shots.


Thanks Jeff, couple were a little blurry. they got a little farther away.

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Jun 15, 2020 21:11:56   #
Rich475 Loc: North of San Francsico
 
OhD wrote:
Kites will always be faster simply because the wind speed increases with distance from a boundary. These wings are nice, though, because there isn't a lot of string to deal with, tangle, or snag on someone's mast.


Thanks OhD but I don't know what 'distance from a boundry' means. The kites sizes are twice as big as the wing and the drag of the foil is about the same size so wing speeds would always be lower than a Kite speed. There's a few more variables to consider also.

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Jun 15, 2020 22:03:44   #
John from gpwmi Loc: Michigan
 
Great capture of the action!

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Jun 16, 2020 00:25:47   #
OhD Loc: West Richland, WA
 
Rich475 wrote:
Thanks OhD but I don't know what 'distance from a boundry' means. The kites sizes are twice as big as the wing and the drag of the foil is about the same size so wing speeds would always be lower than a Kite speed. There's a few more variables to consider also.


Rich
In any fluid flow (air over water in this case), the friction at the boundary between the two causes the air to slow down and the water to get dragged along by the air (relatively slowly, but it can keep building to a storm surge). The further away from the water surface (up) the less the air is slowed, so the wind just tens of feet up is faster than the wind right at the water. "Boundary " in fluid mechanics refers to any interface between a fluid or gas, fluid and solid or gas and solid (the ground, pipe or canal walls, wings or foils, etc), or even between two streams of gas or fluid (look up Kelvin-Helmholz clouds). You are correct that the smaller area of the wing is also a factor

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Jun 16, 2020 00:26:18   #
OhD Loc: West Richland, WA
 
Nice photos, BTW!

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Jun 16, 2020 10:10:15   #
Moondoggie Loc: Southern California
 
Terrific series.

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Jun 16, 2020 10:46:31   #
Rich475 Loc: North of San Francsico
 
John from gpwmi wrote:
Great capture of the action!


Thanks for the comment, John

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Jun 16, 2020 10:53:45   #
Rich475 Loc: North of San Francsico
 
OhD wrote:
Rich
In any fluid flow (air over water in this case), the friction at the boundary between the two causes the air to slow down and the water to get dragged along by the air (relatively slowly, but it can keep building to a storm surge). The further away from the water surface (up) the less the air is slowed, so the wind just tens of feet up is faster than the wind right at the water. "Boundary " in fluid mechanics refers to any interface between a fluid or gas, fluid and solid or gas and solid (the ground, pipe or canal walls, wings or foils, etc), or even between two streams of gas or fluid (look up Kelvin-Helmholz clouds). You are correct that the smaller area of the wing is also a factor
Rich br In any fluid flow (air over water in this ... (show quote)


Thanks for the great explanation OhD. From that explanation, I would say you had to be a 'fluid mechanics' engineer . . . sure makes sense. Here's a photo of the kite World Championships in SF last year. Do you think all those kites up there make a new boundry layer?
Rich


(Download)

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Jun 16, 2020 10:58:06   #
Rich475 Loc: North of San Francsico
 
Moondoggie wrote:
Terrific series.


Thanks Moondoggie. I'm sure this will get very popular down your way because they don't require as much wind as windsurfers or kites.

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Jun 19, 2020 13:58:58   #
Eagleholic
 
Rich475 - WOW, WOW, WOW!! that goes for the Kiter AND your captures!!

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Jun 19, 2020 13:59:14   #
Eagleholic
 
Rich475 - WOW, WOW, WOW!! that goes for the Kiter AND your captures!!

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