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Jun 8, 2020 13:09:02   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Corona article in Bulletin of Atonic Scientists.

Did the SARS-CoV-2 virus arise from a bat coronavirus research program in a Chinese laboratory? Very possibly.

This is a long article; here is an introductory paragraph. There is some preliminary text that seems somewhat political.

The circumstantial evidence for a lab escape. By way of introduction, there are two virology institutes in Wuhan to consider, not one: The Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention (WHCDC) and the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV). Both have conducted large projects on novel bat viruses and maintained large research collections of novel bat viruses, and at least the WIV possessed the virus that is the most closely related known virus in the world to the outbreak virus, bat virus RaTG13. This virus was isolated in 2013 and had its genome published on January 23, 2020. Seven more years of bat coronavirus collection followed the 2013 RaTG13 isolation.


https://thebulletin.org/2020/06/did-the-sars-cov-2-virus-arise-from-a-bat-coronavirus-research-program-in-a-chinese-laboratory-very-possibly/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=MondayNewsletter06082020&utm_content=DisruptiveTechnology_SocialEquity_06032020


https://tinyurl.com/ycgectol

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Jun 8, 2020 13:26:33   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
The correct answer is usually the most obvious.

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Jun 8, 2020 13:35:51   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
That organization is notoriously dishonest, leftist, political. Nothing it says can be trusted.

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Jun 8, 2020 16:16:20   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
That organization is notoriously dishonest, leftist, political. Nothing it says can be trusted.


The next time I believe what comes out of China with no checking will be the first.
And anyone who believes the Chinese Gvt numbers on cases and deaths - well, I have some beach front property on the moon for sale.

Oh, I just can't resist this on your title typo, here is a picture of Corvid19.

Now Covid-19 is a different subject and what you want to discuss. (My inner teacher came out after 13 years retired.)


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Jun 8, 2020 20:50:52   #
PH CIB
 
I originally posted this on one of your Threads in December 2019,,,,"""The Story about Global Pandemics is especially interesting and terrifying...I have read some books about the Russian Biological Warfare Research Laboratories and the United States Biological Warfare Research Laboratories....I personally and this is just my opinion feel a Bird Flu Virus World Pandemic is imminent...Why, because we can blame it on Nature, develop the Virus in the Lab along with the Vaccine and then after vaccinating the chosen few spread the Virus all over the World...Billions will die destroying whole Families and the Stock Market will crash, Homes and Farms and Businesses will come up for sale for pennies and the Vultures who started the Pandemic will swoop in buying up real estate, farms and ranches, businesses, stocks and bonds for pennies and then rolling out the vaccine which they had all along, looking like Heroes, and making a fortune on the vaccine as the World recovers and the real estate, farms and ranches, businesses and stocks and bonds they bought for pennies will skyrocket in value...a Global Pandemic does not destroy infrastructure just people and since this will not only be the greatest die off of humans in human history it will also be the greatest transfer of wealth in human history which is exactly why it will probably happen...."""

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Jun 8, 2020 20:59:24   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
PH CIB wrote:
I originally posted this on one of your Threads in December 2019,,,,"""The Story about Global Pandemics is especially interesting and terrifying...I have read some books about the Russian Biological Warfare Research Laboratories and the United States Biological Warfare Research Laboratories....I personally and this is just my opinion feel a Bird Flu Virus World Pandemic is imminent...Why, because we can blame it on Nature, develop the Virus in the Lab along with the Vaccine and then after vaccinating the chosen few spread the Virus all over the World...Billions will die destroying whole Families and the Stock Market will crash, Homes and Farms and Businesses will come up for sale for pennies and the Vultures who started the Pandemic will swoop in buying up real estate, farms and ranches, businesses, stocks and bonds for pennies and then rolling out the vaccine which they had all along, looking like Heroes, and making a fortune on the vaccine as the World recovers and the real estate, farms and ranches, businesses and stocks and bonds they bought for pennies will skyrocket in value...a Global Pandemic does not destroy infrastructure just people and since this will not only be the greatest die off of humans in human history it will also be the greatest transfer of wealth in human history which is exactly why it will probably happen...."""
I originally posted this on one of your Threads in... (show quote)


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Jun 8, 2020 21:22:35   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists was started at the close of WW2 by a group of physicists and chemists who worked on the atomic bomb project. They have, of course, passed away, and the organ they created and left behind has earned a Sterling Reputation. The author of this report that has 49 references is:

Milton Leitenberg is a senior research associate at the Center for International and Security Studies at the University of Maryland (CISSM).

Your opinion is that of a tiny mind. Bet you didn’t read the article, especially the lastparagraphs.


Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
That organization is notoriously dishonest, leftist, political. Nothing it says can be trusted.

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Jun 8, 2020 22:03:11   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
John_F wrote:
... you didn’t read the article, especially the lastparagraphs.


I read it. The stench of bias is clear, especially at the start. And as noted, far from being 'atomic scientists' it's a far left organization like many others, and has no credibility.

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Jun 9, 2020 01:24:10   #
PH CIB
 
""""" They took a piece of the original SARS virus and inserted a snippet from a SARS-like bat coronavirus, resulting in a virus that is capable of infecting human cells.”29 This meant it could be transmitted from experimental animal to experimental animal by aerosol transmission, which means that it could do the same for humans. In other words, gain of function techniques were used to turn bat coronaviruses into human pathogens capable of causing a global pandemic."""""

""""" The author of a newly published paper analyzing the genome of SARS-COV-2 reported that “the COVID-19 virus is exquisitely adapted to infect humans… The virus’s ability to bind protein on human cells was far greater than its ability to bind the same protein in bats, which argues against bats being a direct source of the human virus.” """"" Both Quotes from the Article....

I would like to see the Illegal Worldwide Trade in Wildlife eliminated because of this Virus, But in My Opinion it came from a Biological Warfare Lab,,,call those level 4 Labs Worldwide anything You want but that is what they really are.....

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Jun 9, 2020 02:26:43   #
PH CIB
 
With the Biological Warfare Labs operating in Russia and the US for Decades and now China, gain of function is just a fancy term to weaponize a virus or make a virus more deadly....One would have to think the Corona Virus has been well studied and documented and weaponized....but unless you are insane as you genetically engineer a new deadly strain, you also at the same time come up with a vaccine or an antibody treatment for it in case you have to use it on the Enemy or the Enemy uses it on You....My guess is there is already a vaccine or antibody treatment for this Virus and it is being withheld .....

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Jun 9, 2020 06:16:17   #
Julian Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
robertjerl wrote:
The next time I believe what comes out of China with no checking will be the first.
And anyone who believes the Chinese Gvt numbers on cases and deaths - well, I have some beach front property on the moon for sale.

Oh, I just can't resist this on your title typo, here is a picture of Corvid19.

Now Covid-19 is a different subject and what you want to discuss. (My inner teacher came out after 13 years retired.)
The next time I believe what comes out of China wi... (show quote)


You beat me to it. I was going to bring it up!

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Jun 9, 2020 06:54:13   #
machia Loc: NJ
 
China is a military, geopolitical and economic predator. They do and say what they want. And for twenty years they’ve been doing it on the world stage. They’re Communists, and the present unrest in the United States is something that got the heat off of them.
I hope the world wakes up. The Chinese government is rotten to its core.

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Jun 9, 2020 09:49:23   #
OlinBost Loc: Marietta, Ga.
 
The latest info is implying that the virus was first showing up in China in October. There are satellite photos showing an increase in cars parked at hospitals and an increase in Google type searches on symptoms.

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Jun 9, 2020 10:12:58   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
machia wrote:
China is a military, geopolitical and economic predator. . . . The Chinese government is rotten to its core.


To be clear, I am a patriot and scorn totalitarian governments, but ours is getting pretty darn rotten.

Stan

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Jun 9, 2020 10:49:54   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Thank you, PH CIB, for quoting from the article. There are other paragraphs that show why Covid19 is so dangerous. They also indicate how virus genome scientists might proceed to a vaccine.


PH CIB wrote:
""""" They took a piece of the original SARS virus and inserted a snippet from a SARS-like bat coronavirus, resulting in a virus that is capable of infecting human cells.”29 This meant it could be transmitted from experimental animal to experimental animal by aerosol transmission, which means that it could do the same for humans. In other words, gain of function techniques were used to turn bat coronaviruses into human pathogens capable of causing a global pandemic."""""

""""" The author of a newly published paper analyzing the genome of SARS-COV-2 reported that “the COVID-19 virus is exquisitely adapted to infect humans… The virus’s ability to bind protein on human cells was far greater than its ability to bind the same protein in bats, which argues against bats being a direct source of the human virus.” """"" Both Quotes from the Article....

I would like to see the Illegal Worldwide Trade in Wildlife eliminated because of this Virus, But in My Opinion it came from a Biological Warfare Lab,,,call those level 4 Labs Worldwide anything You want but that is what they really are.....
""""" They took a piece o... (show quote)

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