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May 28, 2020 12:58:23   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
rehess wrote:
Incidentally, my parents allowed their precious first-grader {me} to be part of the final test of the polio vaccine.
It turned out that I got the placebo, but they didn't know that until later.
I saw the horrors of polio first hand - I had a classmate come back to class in braces, on crutches.
I will never forget the horror of that time.


Yeah, we saw enough polio victims back then to know that the vaccine was pretty special and very important.

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May 28, 2020 12:58:34   #
dragonlady9947
 
About five years ago, I woke up and could not breath-gasping for air. No symptoms of anything. Headed over to urgent care-ended up in the hospital ICU for three days with medical staff wearing hazmat suits. They let me go home with oxygen machine running 24 hours/day and I could not work for six weeks. I had the flu which had turned into viral pneumonia and viral sepsis. This was in February-not able to walk a distance until June. 5 years later I have asthma and 2 different inhalers. Doctors orders: I have to have a flu shot every year and got pneumonia and shingles too. I never actually felt ‘sick’ The doctors told me that the flu attacks the weakest part of your body. The inoculations help save my life. Antivaxers are nuts and a danger to society.

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May 28, 2020 13:01:22   #
pshane
 
Curious, - Why this article on a Photography Forum? - (altho the info is appreciated, but still - - )

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May 28, 2020 13:33:11   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
burkphoto wrote:
Yeah, we saw enough polio victims back then to know that the vaccine was pretty special and very important.


Iron Lungs were a familiar object to everyone that watched TV or read the Paper. Polio was the thing we feared the most, even at the age of 6 I was aware of it's danger and remember the news of the Vaccine and the rush to immunize.

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May 28, 2020 13:34:42   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
pshane wrote:
Curious, - Why this article on a Photography Forum? - (altho the info is appreciated, but still - - )


This is the “General Chit-Chat” section. Photography is discussed in other sections. Click “All Sections” at the bottom of the page to see a complete list.

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May 28, 2020 13:35:47   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
pshane wrote:
Curious, - Why this article on a Photography Forum? - (altho the info is appreciated, but still - - )

It is in the "Chit Chat Section".

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May 28, 2020 13:48:00   #
dragonlady9947
 
General chat session. Get know each other a little differently.

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May 28, 2020 14:45:23   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Ysarex wrote:
This one is so easy. In the course of world history the single most important medical advance made by the human race:__________________

There are only a few contenders to fill in that blank, vaccines is one, possibly antibiotics, possibly anesthesia, but I'd fill that in with vaccines as the biggest bang for the effort.


👍👍 Yes indeed!

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May 28, 2020 15:34:35   #
gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN
 
burkphoto wrote:
Totally unmitigated bull$#!t.

This is like pouring a mixture of motor oil and BB pellets behind your car to interrupt someone else’s progress. It’s the classic propaganda technique of spreading FUD — fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

Anti-vaccination proponents probably have some sort of mental disease.

One would have to be sick, not to understand that the needs of the many (for a vaccine that offers immunity) outweigh the wishes of the few (who resist taking the vaccine). Alternatively, one would have to have a hidden agenda of some sort!

I had a neighbor whose mother refused to let her get the polio vaccine in the early 1960s. She DIED of polio in 1970!

Hundreds of millions get vaccinated against a broad range of microbes without any side effects.

Let’s let the medical community sort this out in their formal, scientific manner. Social media is a dangerous place to get medical advice or information.
Totally unmitigated bull$#!t. br br This is like... (show quote)



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May 28, 2020 15:50:04   #
theoldman
 
Have I noticed a bias on the forum in favor of reason, knowledge, evidence, and intelligence? Maybe it hints that photographers are good breeding stock. :)

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May 28, 2020 20:11:46   #
SMPhotography Loc: Pawleys Island, SC
 
Ysarex wrote:
This one is so easy. In the course of world history the single most important medical advance made by the human race:__________________

There are only a few contenders to fill in that blank, vaccines is one, possibly antibiotics, possibly anesthesia, but I'd fill that in with vaccines as the biggest bang for the effort.


As a retired clinical microbiologist, the introduction of antibiotics is clearly the single greatest medical discovery. Perhaps the second greatest is the science of blood typing and red cell antigen identification in blood banking. Both have saved an uncountable number of lives. Vaccinations would come in third on my list.

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May 28, 2020 20:33:15   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
SMPhotography wrote:
As a retired clinical microbiologist, the introduction of antibiotics is clearly the single greatest medical discovery. Perhaps the second greatest is the science of blood typing and red cell antigen identification in blood banking. Both have saved an uncountable number of lives. Vaccinations would come in third on my list.


My father was a microbiologist also, and my mother ran several blood banks in her career. Unfortunately, they are both gone, or I’d ask them their opinions. Regardless, vaccines are pretty high up the list, and finding some silly reason to avoid them I believe they would feel is both uninformed and just plain stupid. I think it will unfortunately take awhile to develop and test a vaccine for this virus, and if it mutates regularly, like influenza, it may become very difficult.

On a personal note, I spent lots of nights in the early 50s, (when they were called bacteriologists) watching my father make blood agar plates and plant them with a flamed platinum loop, and then placing tabs of various antibiotics on the plate for sensitivity studies before placing them in an incubator with a lit candle inside (to remove the oxygen for anaerobic bacteria). That must seem incredibly crude now. My mother taught me how to type and cross-match blood during those long nights when she was on call, sleeping on a cot next to the VA bloodbank. How times have changed... please pardon the reminiscence.

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May 28, 2020 23:07:27   #
Paul Diamond Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA
 
SMPhotography wrote:
Her tinfoil hat is on too tightly, it is cutting off all circulation to her brain.


I'm sorry. To cut off the blood supply to her brain, all she has to do is sit down!

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May 29, 2020 05:50:56   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
burkphoto wrote:
Totally unmitigated bull$#!t.

This is like pouring a mixture of motor oil and BB pellets behind your car to interrupt someone else’s progress. It’s the classic propaganda technique of spreading FUD — fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

Anti-vaccination proponents probably have some sort of mental disease.

One would have to be sick, not to understand that the needs of the many (for a vaccine that offers immunity) outweigh the wishes of the few (who resist taking the vaccine). Alternatively, one would have to have a hidden agenda of some sort!

I had a neighbor whose mother refused to let her get the polio vaccine in the early 1960s. She DIED of polio in 1970!

Hundreds of millions get vaccinated against a broad range of microbes without any side effects.

Let’s let the medical community sort this out in their formal, scientific manner. Social media is a dangerous place to get medical advice or information.
Totally unmitigated bull$#!t. br br This is like... (show quote)


Absolutely correct!

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May 29, 2020 06:59:10   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
Wow - some people will believe anything they are fed. Really - the CDC, WHO, and all the scientists working on this can't tell a virus from a bacterium? It would be hilarious if these people weren't actually walking among us.

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