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May 29, 2020 11:27:35   #
alexol
 
I'm grateful! I can use ALL the help I can get.

I know just enough on most topics to get myself into trouble but not necessarily back out...

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May 29, 2020 11:28:57   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
alexol wrote:
I'm grateful! I can use ALL the help I can get.

I know just enough on most topics to get myself into trouble but not necessarily back out...



Mark

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May 29, 2020 15:56:27   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
alexol wrote:
I've been using Acronis for quite a while for backing up locally to a NAS and have had no issues, and was able to restore data on more than one occasion when needed. I also use Backblaze for off-site data storage.


A couple of months ago, my C: drive failed.

My data is safe, but it takes quite a long time to set a PC up as I like it - arrange my desktop, general settings, various tasks like auto creating a daily restore point, means to sync my desktop with a laptop and so on. Nothing complex, just time consuming.

Lately I've been wondering if it is possible to create a cloned, perfect 100% bootable copy of C: drive so that when another failure occurs, I can just pull the old drive out, drop in the new one, retrieve updated data files, and carry on. Total downtime and frustrations minimized.

Is this possible with Acronis? If so, how? One of my concerns is that when you'd clone a drive (going back a while now, to a Norton program) the op/sys would be transferred and only the newly cloned drive would be bootable. I know that Acronis will clone a drive, not sure about both drives then being bootable.

My hardware of choice for this current computer is Samsung 1Tb SSDs.

Alex
I've been using Acronis for quite a while for back... (show quote)


This is the best I have found. You can make an image of a complete drive, or of a partition, etc.

https://www.macrium.com/

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May 29, 2020 17:32:44   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
I use Macrium now. Had a lot of issues with Acronis in the past, moved to Storageworks but still had a few issues. Moved to Macrium and been good ever since.
Most backup programs seem to issues at some stage in their life. The idea is to hope the problems get fixed fast but if the problems happen when you are also having boot issues then sometimes the 'get fixed fast' isn't enough. My experience has been when the s___ hits the fan and there are problems the companies seem to take 2-3 months to fix things and that is unfortunately not good enough. Hence I moved from Acronis at the time.

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May 30, 2020 12:17:46   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
alexol wrote:
I've been using Acronis for quite a while for backing up locally to a NAS and have had no issues, and was able to restore data on more than one occasion when needed. I also use Backblaze for off-site data storage.


A couple of months ago, my C: drive failed.

My data is safe, but it takes quite a long time to set a PC up as I like it - arrange my desktop, general settings, various tasks like auto creating a daily restore point, means to sync my desktop with a laptop and so on. Nothing complex, just time consuming.

Lately I've been wondering if it is possible to create a cloned, perfect 100% bootable copy of C: drive so that when another failure occurs, I can just pull the old drive out, drop in the new one, retrieve updated data files, and carry on. Total downtime and frustrations minimized.

Is this possible with Acronis? If so, how? One of my concerns is that when you'd clone a drive (going back a while now, to a Norton program) the op/sys would be transferred and only the newly cloned drive would be bootable. I know that Acronis will clone a drive, not sure about both drives then being bootable.

My hardware of choice for this current computer is Samsung 1Tb SSDs.

Alex
I've been using Acronis for quite a while for back... (show quote)


Yes I just did it last week with the free aconis software. I have 2 hard drives on my editing PC. I have my operating system in a 128gb ssd and use a 1tb had for internal storage. I have 8 external drives in 2 drobos. I cloned my internal ssd with the software on to a 1tb ssd. When it finished I changed the hard drives and my computer and programs was exactly the same. The only surprise was some of my purchased software had to have the unlock key rentered. Actually only my luminar4 required this. My Nikon software was fine. All you need is the cable to attach your new drive to a USB port. Go to Crucial. Com. They sell hard drives and memory but have great installation videos and such. No sign up ect.

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May 30, 2020 12:22:40   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
alexol wrote:
Thanks for all the answers. I'm using a four bay (4x 6TB) Synology RAID for incremental backup and for some storage, so no issues there.

The heart of my question - and I haven't found the answer yet - is: "I know that Acronis will clone a drive, not sure about both drives then being bootable."

What I want to get to is a situation whereby if my C: dies, I can undo the two screws holding the side cover of my tower case, pull the dead drive, plug in the new one and be back up in about 10 minutes. Most frequently used data, as well as TrureCypt volumes and my desktop folder (to sync desktops between PCs) is on Dropbox, so it would all auto-update in a few minutes.

Expressed more directly - if I clone my C: drive will they both be bootable, or is the operating system copied across in such a manner that ONLY the receiving drive will be bootable?
Thanks for all the answers. I'm using a four bay ... (show quote)


Both are bootable. I cloned my drive to an ssd from an ssd and didn't put it in for several days. So I used my original drive for a couple days. The swapped them. Your cloned drive will have your operating system and programs but whatever data changed since the clone you will have to get from your backup.

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May 31, 2020 15:53:40   #
ikaush Loc: Medford, MA
 
I use AOMEI backupper standard. It does probably everything Acronis does, but does not require subscribing, and is free.

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May 31, 2020 17:09:41   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
ikaush wrote:
I use AOMEI backupper standard. It does probably everything Acronis does, but does not require subscribing, and is free.


I got acronis for free from crucial computer parts. It's on their website. No email or anything required

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May 31, 2020 17:30:14   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Drbobcameraguy wrote:
I got acronis for free from crucial computer parts. It's on their website. No email or anything required


Yes, it is free. However, no support and limited features. It is not the same version as the paid one. If it handles all your needs, then it's perfect.
Mark

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May 31, 2020 19:29:18   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
markngolf wrote:
Yes, it is free. However, no support and limited features. It is not the same version as the paid one. If it handles all your needs, then it's perfect.
Mark


Yes I've not looked at it for anything than cloning ssd and had. Works very well for that. I back up using other software and drobos.

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May 31, 2020 20:44:48   #
ikaush Loc: Medford, MA
 
markngolf wrote:
Yes, it is free. However, no support and limited features. It is not the same version as the paid one. If it handles all your needs, then it's perfect.
Mark


All I need is to have the clone disk for my Windows 10 system, so if a disaster occurs I can swap disks and be fine. And this is done with AOMEI perfectly. In fact I am currently using my clone as my system disk, while the original system disk is resting on the shelf.

In addition AOMEI allows to make a system backup and save it in another disk/partition, and also to create a boot CD, so you can restore the system without opening the computer hardware. Which is useful if there was not a disk failure, but rather some virus or missing piece of software.

So, I highly recommend AOMEI.

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Jun 1, 2020 18:02:23   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
Just a word of warning. AOMEI is based in Hong Kong including presumably their cloud storage servers. If (or maybe when) China takes over HK completely I personally might be a little reluctant to rely too much on support or data safety.

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