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May 20, 2020 17:40:23   #
Redyogi Loc: Chatsworth, GA
 
I love my Rebel T6i but I think it’s time for a full frame camera. Trying to get opinions on which is the right choice.
I have heard good things about both.
Money is not a concern, but being a novice I’m not sure which way to go. I’m not looking to be a professional but I have been told I am a decent amateur.

I plan on adding a 24-70 and a 70-200 as well as a good macro.
I like making landscapes and just started some still life projects, not interested in portraits. Suggestions and opinions are welcome. Thanks

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May 20, 2020 17:45:28   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
If money isn't a concern: Go big or go home!

Seriously though, I moved from a t7i to the 5d4 and have no regrets at all. I also had no issues with funding and decided that for my landscape photography "wants", that the 5D was the best bang for my buck.

Although my lens selection is a little different from yours, I still use the T7I for video and time-lapse work using the EF lenses.

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May 20, 2020 17:50:38   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
I went from a Nikon D7200 to a Nikon D850. I know, I know not Canon but going from crop to full frame. It cost a bucket of money when I got the lens I wanted but I haven't regretted it at all. I would do it again, no hesitation.

Good luck on your new adventure in photography.

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May 20, 2020 19:08:40   #
bleirer
 
5div no question about it. If money is no object get the best glass too.

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May 20, 2020 19:16:45   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Redyogi wrote:
I love my Rebel T6i but I think it’s time for a full frame camera. Trying to get opinions on which is the right choice.
I have heard good things about both.
Money is not a concern, but being a novice I’m not sure which way to go. I’m not looking to be a professional but I have been told I am a decent amateur.

I plan on adding a 24-70 and a 70-200 as well as a good macro.
I like making landscapes and just started some still life projects, not interested in portraits. Suggestions and opinions are welcome. Thanks
I love my Rebel T6i but I think it’s time for a fu... (show quote)

If money is not an issue there is absolutely no comparison. Go with the 5D Mark IV.

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May 20, 2020 19:24:01   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
bleirer wrote:
5div no question about it. If money is no object get the best glass too.


Same comment, along with some aggressive thoughts:

Sell or give away everything that is not compatible with the 5DIV.

Although the f/4 version is nice with IS, the EF 24-70 f/2.8L II has a unique image quality that makes it one of Canon's top 2 or 3 overall lenses.

The same cannot be said of the f/2.8 vs f/4 zooms for the 70-200 group. The recent v III at 70-200 f/2.8 is the sharpest ever with the best IS support. But, every single one of these models is overall excellent, where size & weight & cost are the attributes to consider for the specific model that best fits your needs. If you're not shooting events indoors professionally, you probably don't need any of the f/2.8 models. In fact, the 100-400L II might be the better general purpose lens for outdoors and wildlife / sports / airshows.

Look at your tripod needs too. The model / brand isn't such a big deal except that you need a sturdy tripod to hold and firmly lock this heavier equipment. A tripod that raises as high as your eyes and preferably a bit higher, say to the top of your head with the ball head adding a few more inches to the overall maximum height. Look at quick release clamps and plates for each unique lens collar and an L-plate for the camera body. These make mounting and adjusting the camera and / or lens quick and easy, multiplying the effectiveness of the tripod.

Looking at your posting history in the Photo Gallery, you might find other lenses to be a better match to your vision. Consider the VII of the 24-105L instead of the 24-70. Consider the 16-35 f/4L IS regardless of the longer lens covering the 24-105 range. You might start with the 16-35 and then consider if you even need a zoom between 24 and 70/100. My own preferred 'walkaround' set-up has become the 16-35 with the plastic EF 50 f/1.8 in a cargo pants pocket or someone's purse. The even smaller EF 40 f/2.8 pancake fits in any pants pocket, even your skinny jeans.

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May 20, 2020 20:06:57   #
Redyogi Loc: Chatsworth, GA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Same comment, along with some aggressive thoughts:

Sell or give away everything that is not compatible with the 5DIV.

Although the f/4 version is nice with IS, the EF 24-70 f/2.8L II has a unique image quality that makes it one of Canon's top 2 or 3 overall lenses.

The same cannot be said of the f/2.8 vs f/4 zooms for the 70-200 group. The recent v III at 70-200 f/2.8 is the sharpest ever with the best IS support. But, every single one of these models is overall excellent, where size & weight & cost are the attributes to consider for the specific model that best fits your needs. If you're not shooting events indoors professionally, you probably don't need any of the f/2.8 models. In fact, the 100-400L II might be the better general purpose lens for outdoors and wildlife / sports / airshows.

Look at your tripod needs too. The model / brand isn't such a big deal except that you need a sturdy tripod to hold and firmly lock this heavier equipment. A tripod that raises as high as your eyes and preferably a bit high, say to the top of your head with the ball head adding a few more inches to the overall maximum height. Look at quick release clamps and plates for each unique lens collar and an L-plate for the camera body. These make mounting and adjusting the camera and / or lens quick and easy, multiplying the effectiveness of the tripod.

Looking at your posting history in the Photo Gallery, you might find other lenses to be a better match to your vision. Consider the VII of the 24-105L instead of the 24-70. Consider the 16-35 f/4L IS regardless of the longer lens covering the 24-105 range. You might start with the 16-35 and then consider if you even need a zoom between 24 and 70/100. My own preferred 'walkaround' set-up has become the 16-35 with the plastic EF 50 f/1.8 in a cargo pants pocket or someone's purse. The even smaller EF 40 f/2.8 pancake fits in any pants pocket, even your skinny jeans.
Same comment, along with some aggressive thoughts:... (show quote)


Thank you so very much for taking the time to respond with such great information and detail. I hoped you might chime in. I will take it all into account and let everyone know what I decide.
Thank you again

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May 20, 2020 20:31:44   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
Redyogi wrote:
I love my Rebel T6i but I think it’s time for a full frame camera. Trying to get opinions on which is the right choice.
I have heard good things about both.
Money is not a concern, but being a novice I’m not sure which way to go. I’m not looking to be a professional but I have been told I am a decent amateur.

I plan on adding a 24-70 and a 70-200 as well as a good macro.
I like making landscapes and just started some still life projects, not interested in portraits. Suggestions and opinions are welcome. Thanks
I love my Rebel T6i but I think it’s time for a fu... (show quote)


If not constrained by finances, the 5D IV is regarded as one of the best dslr cameras currently available. You have top tier lens, and suggest adding the 16-35 to complete the “holy trinity” of Canon L series lens. Good luck.

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May 20, 2020 20:53:15   #
Redyogi Loc: Chatsworth, GA
 
I have two EF lenses I can use w/ 5DIV

EF 50mm 1.1:8 STM
EF 75-300 4-5.6 III

I also have 3 EF-s lenses that I don’t believe work will the 5dIV.

EF-S 55-250
EF -S 10-18
EF-S 18-55

Do you have any other suggestions knowing what I have?

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May 20, 2020 20:56:18   #
Redyogi Loc: Chatsworth, GA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Same comment, along with some aggressive thoughts:

Sell or give away everything that is not compatible with the 5DIV.

Although the f/4 version is nice with IS, the EF 24-70 f/2.8L II has a unique image quality that makes it one of Canon's top 2 or 3 overall lenses.

The same cannot be said of the f/2.8 vs f/4 zooms for the 70-200 group. The recent v III at 70-200 f/2.8 is the sharpest ever with the best IS support. But, every single one of these models is overall excellent, where size & weight & cost are the attributes to consider for the specific model that best fits your needs. If you're not shooting events indoors professionally, you probably don't need any of the f/2.8 models. In fact, the 100-400L II might be the better general purpose lens for outdoors and wildlife / sports / airshows.

Look at your tripod needs too. The model / brand isn't such a big deal except that you need a sturdy tripod to hold and firmly lock this heavier equipment. A tripod that raises as high as your eyes and preferably a bit higher, say to the top of your head with the ball head adding a few more inches to the overall maximum height. Look at quick release clamps and plates for each unique lens collar and an L-plate for the camera body. These make mounting and adjusting the camera and / or lens quick and easy, multiplying the effectiveness of the tripod.

Looking at your posting history in the Photo Gallery, you might find other lenses to be a better match to your vision. Consider the VII of the 24-105L instead of the 24-70. Consider the 16-35 f/4L IS regardless of the longer lens covering the 24-105 range. You might start with the 16-35 and then consider if you even need a zoom between 24 and 70/100. My own preferred 'walkaround' set-up has become the 16-35 with the plastic EF 50 f/1.8 in a cargo pants pocket or someone's purse. The even smaller EF 40 f/2.8 pancake fits in any pants pocket, even your skinny jeans.
Same comment, along with some aggressive thoughts:... (show quote)


I have two EF lenses I can use w/ 5DIV

EF 50mm 1.1:8 STM
EF 75-300 4-5.6 III

I also have 3 EF-s lenses that I don’t believe work will the 5dIV.

EF-S 55-250
EF -S 10-18
EF-S 18-55

Do you have any other suggestions knowing what I have?

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May 20, 2020 20:58:35   #
Redyogi Loc: Chatsworth, GA
 
DeanS wrote:
If not constrained by finances, the 5D IV is regarded as one of the best dslr cameras currently available. You have top tier lens, and suggest adding the 16-35 to complete the “holy trinity” of Canon L series lens. Good luck.


Thanks for your input.

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May 20, 2020 20:59:07   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
Redyogi wrote:
I have two EF lenses I can use w/ 5DIV

EF 50mm 1.1:8 STM
EF 75-300 4-5.6 III

I also have 3 EF-s lenses that I don’t believe work will the 5dIV.

EF-S 55-250
EF -S 10-18
EF-S 18-55

Do you have any other suggestions knowing what I have?


For my landscape needs I have the following:
16-35L
24-105L
100-400 L ii

Your 75-300 covers a good portion of that range already. I don't mind losing a couple stops in aperture as all longer exposure is done on a tripod. This of course is all personal preference and is really driven by your shooting needs.

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May 20, 2020 21:14:42   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Redyogi wrote:
I have two EF lenses I can use w/ 5DIV

EF 50mm 1.1:8 STM
EF 75-300 4-5.6 III

I also have 3 EF-s lenses that I don’t believe work will the 5dIV.

EF-S 55-250
EF -S 10-18
EF-S 18-55

Do you have any other suggestions knowing what I have?


So, for keeping with my 'sell' idea above, sell everything except the 50mm. Don't let the low (minuscule) resale amounts bother your decision. Only the EF-S 10-18 represents a unique lens in the EF-S line, and even then, none of the EF-S lenses really hold onto a resale value. But, not selling because the amounts are so low and then just gathering dust doesn't make any sense either. Cut the cord, move on.

The 75-300 is a full-frame lens, but not in keeping with the plan for either a 70-200 or 100-400 lens, making the older lens redundant. If you like the smaller / lighter weight, the non IS 70-200 f/4L is a great lens should you forgo the much larger and much heavier 100-400.

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May 20, 2020 22:55:20   #
Redyogi Loc: Chatsworth, GA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
So, for keeping with my 'sell' idea above, sell everything except the 50mm. Don't let the low (minuscule) resale amounts bother your decision. Only the EF-S 10-18 represents a unique lens in the EF-S line, and even then, none of the EF-S lenses really hold onto a resale value. But, not selling because the amounts are so low and then just gathering dust doesn't make any sense either. Cut the cord, move on.

The 75-300 is a full-frame lens, but not in keeping with the plan for either a 70-200 or 100-400 lens, making the older lens redundant. If you like the smaller / lighter weight, the non IS 70-200 f/4L is a great lens should you forgo the much larger and much heavier 100-400.
So, for keeping with my 'sell' idea above, sell ev... (show quote)


Wish I knew your name to address you correctly.
You are really great, I cannot thank you enough. Everything you discuss makes perfect sense. I understand getting rid of the lenses and not expecting much for them, that’s ok. I may decide to keep them & the T6i as a backup.

I may still do the 6dII to save some $$ to buy better glass or more of it. Not sure my skills are good enough to go for 5dvi. I Looked around @ refurbished or used 5dIV but didn’t find any great bargains.

I will thank you Again for all your insight and let you know what I do.
Regards
Bob

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May 20, 2020 23:02:15   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
Redyogi wrote:
Wish I knew your name to address you correctly.
You are really great, I cannot thank you enough. Everything you discuss makes perfect sense. I understand getting rid of the lenses and not expecting much for them, that’s ok. I may decide to keep them & the T6i as a backup.

I may still do the 6dII to save some $$ to buy better glass or more of it. Not sure my skills are good enough to go for 5dvi. I Looked around @ refurbished or used 5dIV but didn’t find any great bargains.

I will thank you Again for all your insight and let you know what I do.
Regards
Bob
Wish I knew your name to address you correctly. br... (show quote)


Bob,
Paul gives sound advice for sure. If you do decide on the 5D, all the L series lenses will also work on the T6 as well. I kept my T7i body and use the EF glass with it all the time. It's usually for video, but no need to carry that extra weight of the EF-S lenses unless you want to of course.

Good luck and hope you find what you are looking for

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